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CDC quietly changes testing guidelines to exclude people with no symptoms

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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence

By the way, the cold viruses kill way more than any flu but on the rare instance you get the flu it'll likely be much worse.

So cold deaths far outnumber flu deaths.
Even tho the flu is a worse infection generally.
edit on 8/26/2020 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)




posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



Hahaha I can say whatever I want because you have no science.


Yes, you are free to talk out of your ass. Show me data from common cold deaths.

Not flu deaths, which are far less than even covid according to CDC stats, but common cold.

Waiting.


I was the one who pointed out there are no stats to back your beliefs.

The point is we can go back and forth forever...



You were the one who had no data or stats on common cold deaths exceeding Covid deaths.

And still don't. Because it's a BS claim.

But I did show that flu deaths, even on average, are significantly far less than Covid deaths.


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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: putnam6




Hawaii started a 1.33 on 2/28 and they are now at 1.25 on 8/24 they got as low as .64 on 4/9 peaked again at 1.37 5/28 and has been dropping ever since.


While positive cases, positivity, and hospitalizations, and deaths climbed. I would suggest that your figures are speculative, at best.

covidtracking.com...

edit on 8/26/2020 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Liquesence

Show me the statistics disproving my claim.


People don't generally die from a common cold.

Probably a reason why there are no statistics.



Millions die from the cold every year.

Tons of old timers kick it that way.


Common cold? No they don't.

Source for your false claim.




However, infection with rhinovirus or one of the other viruses responsible for common cold symptoms can be serious in some people. Complications from a cold can cause serious illnesses and, yes, even death—particularly in people who have a weak immune system.


Sound familiar?

Can you die from a common cold?



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash



By the way, the cold viruses kill way more than any flu but on the rare instance you get the flu it'll likely be much worse.


Still waiting on actual stats and data rather than feelz.

Waiting for your source.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



Hahaha I can say whatever I want because you have no science.


Yes, you are free to talk out of your ass. Show me data from common cold deaths.

Not flu deaths, which are far less than even covid according to CDC stats, but common cold.

Waiting.


I was the one who pointed out there are no stats to back your beliefs.

The point is we can go back and forth forever...



You were the one who had no data or stats on common cold deaths exceeding Covid deaths.

And still don't. Because it's a BS claim.

But I did show that flu deaths, even on average, are significantly far less than Covid deaths.



Yes corona kills more than the flu because of the higher infection and mutation rates.

There are over 25 billion cold infections a year but they never count the deaths because it was too expensive to handle properly.

With this number of infections I can go into .001% death rate and manage a body count of over 2.5 million.

See where Im going?



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



By the way, the cold viruses kill way more than any flu but on the rare instance you get the flu it'll likely be much worse.


Still waiting on actual stats and data rather than feelz.

Waiting for your source.


I linked all this in other threads.

Maybe you should go look it up?
I've explained my point elaborately with nih who etc sources.

You know this too.
You seen it all already.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash



There are over 25 billion cold infections a year but they never count the deaths


Still waiting on those death stats attributed to the common cold, which you can't provide.



See where Im going?


See where I'm going?



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



There are over 25 billion cold infections a year but they never count the deaths


Still waiting on those death stats attributed to the common cold, which you can't provide.



See where Im going?


See where I'm going?


I didn't say there are stats.
I said there ARE NONE.

Lol wtf



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



There are over 25 billion cold infections a year but they never count the deaths


Still waiting on those death stats attributed to the common cold, which you can't provide.



See where Im going?


See where I'm going?


I didn't say there are stats.
I said there ARE NONE.

Lol wtf


I also said there are no stats. Because it's BS.

Which means your claim is BS.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence

So I won without a source.

No you didn't
Yes I did
No way man
Yes way brah



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



There are over 25 billion cold infections a year but they never count the deaths


Still waiting on those death stats attributed to the common cold, which you can't provide.



See where Im going?


See where I'm going?


I didn't say there are stats.
I said there ARE NONE.

Lol wtf


I also said there are no stats. Because it's BS.

Which means your claim is BS.


You're just copying me.
Thanks



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



By the way, the cold viruses kill way more than any flu but on the rare instance you get the flu it'll likely be much worse.


Still waiting on actual stats and data rather than feelz.

Waiting for your source.


I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.

The cold is ummm "just like" covid. It causes you to die from other things you already had or were about to get.

"Just like" covid only a small percent of people who get a cold die. "Just like" covid it is a grey area exactly what you should say killed them.

So "unlike" covid they don't keep real stats on cold deaths. But for some reason they decided to keep stats on covid.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: LookingAtMars



I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.


If you don't have stats or data, you have no valid argument.

You can say "they" all you want.

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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: LookingAtMars

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: muzzleflash



By the way, the cold viruses kill way more than any flu but on the rare instance you get the flu it'll likely be much worse.


Still waiting on actual stats and data rather than feelz.

Waiting for your source.


I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.

The cold is ummm "just like" covid. It causes you to die from other things you already had or were about to get.

"Just like" covid only a small percent of people who get a cold die. "Just like" covid it is a grey area exactly what you should say killed them.

So "unlike" covid they don't keep real stats on cold deaths. But for some reason they decided to keep stats on covid.


Looks like you know whats going on.

There is very little if anything to actually differentiate Covid19 from the Coronas we got all our lives already.

If there is a difference I cant tell.
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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: LookingAtMars



I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.


If you don't have stats or data, you have no valid argument.


Show me the data proving that.

You have no valid argument.
I can use logic and reason.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: LookingAtMars



I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.


If you don't have stats or data, you have no valid argument.


You are *arguing* you need stats to have any valid argument.

But you cheated and used logic instead of data to construct your flawed argument.

Show me the data proving I need data to know what's going on.

Prove it



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: LookingAtMars



I think he already explained that to you.

They don't keep stats.


If you don't have stats or data, you have no valid argument.


Show me the data proving that.

You have no valid argument.
I can use logic and reason.


Show you data that I don't have data to disprove your lack of data?

Lol.

Where is your data and stats that the common cold kills the number of people you claim/more than covid?

You don't have it, because it's BS.

Provide it, big man, or stfu.

Still waiting.



posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: putnam6




Hawaii started a 1.33 on 2/28 and they are now at 1.25 on 8/24 they got as low as .64 on 4/9 peaked again at 1.37 5/28 and has been dropping ever since.


While positive cases, positivity, and hospitalizations, and deaths climbed. I would suggest that your figures are speculative, at best.

covidtracking.com...


My figures come directly from rt.live BTW use Google or I prefer DuckDuckgo lots of news sources using Rt.live's data in just the last 45 days or so. Google has literally dozens more and that just on page one. If it's not a viable source there are loads of news sources using it.
I could link and post but it's all there. basically looked up everything in an hour and a half

rt.live...

While we believe our model is very strong, all models have limitations because they reduce a complex reality into a simple system. You should be aware of the following limitations of this model when interpreting the results:

Our model relies upon valid data from COVIDTracking.com, and they in turn rely on states to provide timely and accurate data as well. Unfortunately, data can be noisy, incorrect, delayed, and otherwise wrong. While on average, we believe the data to be correct, there are times when an errant datapoint throws the model off. Please let us know if you see an instance of this.
Our model attempts to correct for testing by looking at what is essentially the positivity rate. This positivity rate changes over time because the group of people tested changes. If anything, our model may understate Rt currently because far more people without symptoms are tested, thus driving the positive percentage down and overstating a downward trend in cases.
Our model relies upon a distribution for the delay between infection and reported positive test. Most of the data used to generate this distribution is from Germany and a handful of other countries – it is quite possible this delay distribution may look very different in the US and state by state.
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posted on Aug, 26 2020 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: putnam6


If anything, our model may understate Rt currently


According to the numbers on the ground in Hawaii, this would seem to be likely. Not much reason to think the R factor has declined.

edit on 8/26/2020 by Phage because: (no reason given)



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