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Remember that Evil Fascist BLM revolutionaries beat up and left unconcious?

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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: Dr UAE
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

thats him begging for money

i heard that he turned himself in link


What an ass. “Fighting” infers there was an opposing party when in fact, it was a defenseless guy sitting on the ground not knowing if he was going to end up beaten to death.

This sh*t has got to end. It’s going absolutely nowhere positive for either side of this. At this point, there are people involved who would normally be living regular lives but are now going along with the group mentality and they’re going to end up getting themselves long-term prison sentences for joining in on what they think is the right thing to do.

Hell, if there’s one good reason celebrities are bailing these people out, it’s because the willful idiots who are joining in on this are being duped into thinking it’s for the good of the country.

At this point, I’d have to think the Feds would have infiltrated Antifa and BLM. I’m hoping at some point soon, they start putting the pieces together to figure out how this is all being carried out. I’m not really interested in conspiracy theories at this point, I want to hear the facts.

Edit- And I don’t want to hear any crap about “Antifa is not an organization”. If there are people responding to one person tweeting things out and telling them where to assemble, there’s someone coordinating things. They need to be visited by the Feds and shut down for creating a danger to the public. Hell, at the very least, they can use the coronavirus as reason alone.
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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: aeroscrog
a reply to: Ohanka

I think if you look closely enough that you'll discover that the current dems (from Biden down) are intentionally behaving in a manner exactly consistent with the definition of fascism.


LOLWUT?

Working hand in glove with corporate interests and finance?

Rigid control of the economy for those same interests?

Opposition to liberalism?

Keep looking closely...


Pssst, where are the lockdowns the most strict? Which businesses are essential and which are shut down? I'll give you a clue ... if it's a huge corporate chain type store, it's likely deemed essential: Walmart, McD's and similar. If it's a mom and pop shop, then it's too dangerous to be in business in most places.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

The point is destabilization.

They are very open that there will be no peace and they want to tear it all down.

These groups are openly marxist/communist, and the only place this is "hidden" is in the mainstream media. The ideology has been seeping in to many places for many years, but now its being done blatantly in schools, etc.

The only way they can actually pull this off is with the complicity of media, DAs, and politicians. Again, all done openly, but much is only briefly covered in MSM (if at all). This has been going on, in its current incarnation, since a few days after the first protests. Seriously, all this stuff gets livestreamed.. The media (TV news and online sites) only cover the early preparation phases each nighy, which they call "peaceful protests."

So, the goals of these groups is clear, their methods are clear, etc. What isnt as clear is why massive corporations and global organizations are backing it all.

Id argue thats where the real threat lies. And, if there is even a chance that communism is the minor threat in a situation.. Weve got a big problem.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: aeroscrog
a reply to: chr0naut

Perfect example of the current democrat deception scheme to keep the anger going.

First, the video shows large yellow POLICE on their vests, and there are patches visible that give the agency name, though I can't read them on the video.


The point of identification is to introduce some sort of accountability for individual police officers. Masked up and helmeted as they are, one officer is indistinguishable from another.

If such an unidentified individual were to commit criminal acts, and these were captured on video, or had witnesses to the acts, even the authorities would be unable to identify the culprit.

The origin point of all these riots was an instance of an officer abusing his position and using excessive force. Making the officers anonymous would mean that justice could not be served. It makes of the police, just another gang of violent thugs.


Second, it's obvious from the video that the agents were targeting a specific individual from the start. They didn't care about anyone else and only wanted to get the target and get out. They had plenty of highly skilled manpower and gear to easily scoop up a half dozen or more people. They showed no interest in the others except for threat detection.


In this thread, I have just seen someone in a "security" shirt or vest, as part of a group who targeted an individual. Is that an argument for the legality of the conduct?


Third, the quickly released target admitted that he was mirandized, but says they didn't tell him why he was arrested. Contrary to public belief, the police do not have to read you your rights every time you are arrested. They only have to read you your rights if they wish to interrogate you with incriminating questions while in police custody, which is likely what they were doing.


Miranda rights are contrary to the principle of presumption of innocence. This is because the USA does not have any statute or law, Federally, or in any state, that grants presumption of innocence in legal proceedings. Yet every American thinks that they have it - an example of the separation between public perception and the truth.


Fourth, this video doesn't start when the agents arrive. Their vehicle had already parked and 2 agents had dismounted and walked part way towards the target. We do not know what the agents said during that period, but the video shows the target as the ONLY person with their hands raised, and raised right away. It would seem logical to me that this is when the agents identified themselves as they claim. No way to know from that video though.


The agents did not identify themselves. They identified the group to which they belonged.

Similarly, the agent's unidentified status is not excused by the actions of their target (who as I understand it was found to be innocent and released, making the agents actions unjustifiable in fact).


Fifth, while we can't hear what is said as the agents reach the target, it appears to me that the agents asked him if he is mr. xxxx, and that the target confirmed that he is. The agents then took him to the car.


Again, you cannot justify the agents actions based upon the status of their target.


Sixth, to actually believe that anyone there had any rational fear that they were witnessing a kidnapping you would need to believe that a highly trained team would even be interested in one of these punks, that they couldn't figure out how to accomplish it without witnesses, that they didn't raise any weapons or make any threats, and that they chose to do this in the center of a large American city with flashing police lights everywhere just blocks away, while disguised as federal agents. Possible I suppose, but extremely unlikely


And yet, after the fact, we know that this was unjustified. It was an abduction of a citizen by authorities.


I did a quick google search and found this incident on fact checking site Snoops. Hardly a right wing source.

After sifting through all the ridiculous claims, snopes finally gets to this:

"CBP agents had information indicating the person in the video was suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. Once CBP agents approached the suspect, a large and violent mob moved towards their location. For everyone’s safety, CBP agents quickly moved the suspect to a safer location for further questioning. The CBP agents identified themselves and were wearing CBP insignia during the encounter. The names of the agents were not displayed due to recent doxing incidents against law enforcement personnel who serve and protect our country."


Why are officers required to carry personal identification by law?

If this had gotten to court, and the officers did not by that stage identify themselves, it may well have been thrown out as wrongful arrest, because the agents did not identify themselves and nor was the accused notified of what he was being detained for.

But this was not likely to ever get to court. It was, instead, an authoritarian action to strike fear into the public.


You tell me, after reading that do you still believe the left wing idiots screaming about 'kidnappings'?

Either way, I hope this helps.


They questioned and released the suspect.

It was a wrongful arrest.

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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

Look at China. The state is the business is the state. A corporation is a structure not dissimilar from how a state like China is run. They will partner in control so long as they survive. It's a means of keeping the slaves in check.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I believe that China is the role model for what the technocrats want to achieve everywhere. Theyve still got a ways to go even in China though. Which is a chilling notion.

The only way they can actually get many western nations to bow is if circumstances are objectively worse than the totalitarian state they wish to establish.

I would think that everything that is going on now is to just chip away until bigger pieces start to crumble.

I believe there is still plenty of time to stall, or even prevent those plans.. I suspect that will become immeasurably more difficult once the next "flu" season starts though.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: chr0naut

Why?

Because they target the officers and their families. Where have you been?

Dozens of federal law enforcement officers in Portland doxed amid riots, officials say


Dozens of federal law enforcement officers in Portland have had their personal information posted online by individuals who have also encouraged protesters to go to those officers’ homes, officials said Tuesday.

Federal Protective Service (FPS) Deputy Director of Operations Richard Cline said at a press conference that approximately 38 law enforcement officers had been doxed as he explained why officers had had name badges removed.



www.foxnews.com...

CBP Chief Says Feds Don't Wear Name Badges Due to Fears of Being 'Doxxed'

www.newsweek.com...



"That's another thing that's absolutely disgusting," he said. "They're not only jeopardizing the lives of the agents, but they're also jeopardizing the lives of their families as they're putting out their home information and they're suggesting that individuals go to their homes."



In other countries, police officers wear numbered badges for identification purposes, without exposing them and their families to being unfairly targetted.

It provides assurance that they are themselves not operating outside of accountability under the law.

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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Every single thing you just said is incorrect, and exactly what the rioters want.

You already know that.

But thank you for playing, your posts will live on as contemporary examples for many.



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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: aeroscrog
a reply to: chr0naut

Every single thing you just said is incorrect, and exactly what the rioters want.

You already know that.

But thank you for playing, your posts will live on as contemporary examples for many.


Please refute me with clear argument in each individual case and where possible quote supporting sources.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Uhhh and they wear their badge numbers here too, and they have in portland and seattle as well.......youre pushing a false narrative that they arent......

Youve been corrected on it numerous times but you seem to have some sort of disability that doesnt allow you to retain information thats already been discussed and debunked ad nauseam



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Back to kindergarten for that one.

If you could find a school that would accept someone like that with severe cognitive impairment and inability to control violent impulses when angry or intellectually challenged.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut


Today's winner.

Your mother must be so proud.


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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

That’s not news to me, but what was news to me was that he is a BLM and/or ANTIFA supporter, was potentially another agent provocateur, etc. I

Not justifying that attack.. I saw the video and that Marquis Love or whatever his name is was a ruthless POS.

Just looking at the big picture


Haven't you seen how many times Antifa/BLM members have attacked others in their own group believing they are "nazis"?...

I have seen it happen several times. That's what happens when the only thing in your heart is hatred, which the left has a lot of.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Why is the man who beat him wearing a flak jacket marked "SECURITY" and they also appear to have cable ties or something hanging off their belt?

They appear to be some sort of enforcement officer?

And everyone who works in "security" is not a liberal?... I didn't know that when people were applying for a job as "security guards" they would be asked "Are you Liberal or conservative?..."

Weak argument you got there...



edit on 24-8-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: TexasTruth

No matter what it seems that the second civil war will occur. Too many young Americans have been brainwashed to hate the U.S. and everything it represents... Ironic how these morons idolize true dictatorships like Cuba, Venezuela, etc...



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: chr0naut

Uhhh and they wear their badge numbers here too, and they have in portland and seattle as well.......youre pushing a false narrative that they arent......

Youve been corrected on it numerous times but you seem to have some sort of disability that doesnt allow you to retain information thats already been discussed and debunked ad nauseam


New bill would require federal officers to wear identification - Federal Times

I haven't been actually refuted, with supportive links, evidence, and line of reason, even once.

A "your mom!" type of response is not sufficient rebuttal.

I am requesting, and calling you out, to demonstrate your case and educate me.

As I have explained, I don't know exactly what is happening there in the US, except from the media. I am in another country.

But I can see that there was a decision to deploy federal law enforcement officers without identification (despite the denials of such), and now, there is a bill before the US Congress to ensure that this doesn't happen anymore.

I would think that fairly clearly sums up my case.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

OK, in a Tweet from someone at the scene, they said that the man who was driving the truck, had tried to run protesters over.



That's the same BULLCRAP liberals/socialists/communists have been claiming from the start, and it is them whom start the whole thing...

If you see a crowd of dumbass brainwashed youth yelling at you, hitting your vehicle, and trying to stop you to get you out of your vehicle to beat the crap out of you, as they have done to several people, you are going to comply like an idiot?...


originally posted by: chr0naut
Some have said the transgender BLM protester tried to defend the truck diver and was herself attacked:


I would expect that if the man attempted to help the trans gender person.


originally posted by: chr0naut
Here are the events that led up to BLM causing a man to crash into a tree tonight in Portland

1. BLM began to aggressively escort a man from the BLM protest then assaulted him

2. A witness defended him verbally, then BLM thugs began to threaten, rob and physically assault her pic.twitter.com/5kXPVNp0GA
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And that man is lying...

BLM is a Marxist group that wants to violently destroy capitalism, and everything that has made the U.S. great...
We have had videos of even leaders in BLM calling for murder of white people, and to murder police officers...



originally posted by: chr0naut
Others have said that the driver attacked the transgender person:


Of course the idiots in BLM would attempt to claim that...


originally posted by: chr0naut
Several local security agencies have denied that Marquise Love is employed by them.


he could have worked as one in the past and used the gear to protect himself, or he just could have bought it off the internet...

You don't need to present evidence that you work as a security guard to buy equipment that says "security..."


originally posted by: chr0naut
Also:

Portland truck attack suspect Marquise Love surrenders: police
Marquise Love was booked shortly after 8:30 a.m. local time, records show - Fox News



If your face is being plastered all over tv a lot of people do turn themselves in before things turn worse...



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Why is the man who beat him wearing a flak jacket marked "SECURITY" and they also appear to have cable ties or something hanging off their belt?

They appear to be some sort of enforcement officer?

And everyone who works in "security" is not a liberal?... I didn't know that when people were applying for a job as "security guards" they would be asked "Are you Liberal or conservative?..."

Weak argument you got there...


I have changed my stance on this as more information came to light. Please read on further through this topic thread and feel free to respond to the more pertinent of my posts.

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posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

You already know better.

The title of your own link says a new law would require ID if passed in Oregon, but we know you don't post anything in hopes of learning anything.

I'm sure your deceptive efforts to continue this irrational arguments are apparent to everyone.

I am sorry that you are suffering the nearly wholesale rejection of whatever your twisted belief system is, but here we are.

Someone really should develop an online kindergarten training course for this one.



posted on Aug, 24 2020 @ 09:30 PM
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Someone posted the full video on the other thread. From what I gather, it looks like a few people were targeting people of different levels of melanin. But you can come to your own conclusion ...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This video has never made me more pro-gun ownership than any other video in my life. I'm not promoting seeking violence, but definitely protection is needed.
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