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California Fires and HAARP?

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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:17 PM
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Are they changing or being changed is my point

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: roshambo

Some say that climates are changing.


A rare lightning storm crackles over Mitchell's Cove in Santa Cruz, California around 3 a.m. Sunday morning August 16, 2020. (Shmuel Thaler/The Santa Cruz Sentinel via AP)


A lightning strike hits the surrounding hills near Marsh Creek Road in Brentwood, Calif., on Sunday, Aug. 16, 2020. A severe lightning storm caused several fires near the Round Valley Regional Preserve and Morgan Territory Regional Preserve over the weekend. (Jose Carlos Fajardo/Bay Area News Group)


“I haven’t seen lightning like that since I was a kid. It was like a strike at least every minute,” John Curtis, who lives in unincorporated Clayton, told KTVU.

www.foxnews.com...




posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:35 PM
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Are they changing or being changed is my point


Not by HAARP, certainly. HAARP at it's best cannot affect weather, much less climate.


By human activity, quite probably.

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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:39 PM
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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Spacespider
It is kind of a museum this time around..



Some HAARP locatons they even have them at sea.


China’s new antenna is five times the size of New York City, but some fear it could be a cancer risk
Work to build facility was 13 years in the making, but some researchers have expressed concern about exposure to extremely low frequency waves
Project WEM will be able to communicate with submarines under the water, reducing need for them to surface
www.scmp.com...
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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: roshambo
www.globalresearch.ca... reply to: Phage


Yeah. It's a bunch of bull#.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: roshambo




Are they changing or being changed is my point


Not by HAARP, certainly. HAARP at it's best cannot affect weather, much less climate.


By human activity, quite probably.





DISCLOSURE OF THE INVENTION

The present invention provides a method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region which normally exists above the earth's surface. The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating of electrons which are already present and/or artificially created in the region to thereby increase the charged particle energy and ultimately the density of the region.
www.freepatentsonline.com...
climateviewer.com...




posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Yup. It can heat a small area of the ionosphere above Gakona a little bit. The Sun heats an entire hemisphere of the ionosphere a great deal more than HAARP can.

Weather does not occur in the ionosphere. Nor does climate.

Nice diagram of the "over the horizon radar" concept though.



Some HAARP locatons they even have them at sea.
No. There is only one High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program. It is in Alaska.

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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: roshambo

No idea with regards to your questions but here on vancouver island, canada we had some insane thunder and lightening storms this summer as well as big rains. None of this is typical here. Usually it's very dry all summer but it's been super humid starting last summer and lightning is rare at any time of year. Maybe it is a change to do with the pacific all the way up the coast.

Same here in Alberta. It has been awfully humid and so, so hot. Record breaking heat for about a week, complete with heat warnings. Very nasty thunderstorms that ripped the shingles off the roof of a house down the street and snapped the tops off trees because the wind was so insanely strong. Lightning was striking too close for comfort.

That is not normal for here. A thunderstorm here is usually a couple of peals of thunder, some rain, sometimes some tiny hailstones, bit of wind, then it moves on.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: roshambo

There were a bunch of pictures of lightning in Northern California. So yeah, it was lightning. Not HAARP. There was another news article that stated that a car that had burning exhaust had a spark that came out and started one of the fires. So no conspiracy here. California has lightning every summer and has a fire season every summer/autumn.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 09:06 PM
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when is the lightning? ive been here 30 years, never see at this time of year. never hear about it.
a reply to: ChiefD



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: roshambo

California is a large state with different climates. What part of California do you reside?



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: roshambo

Here's a nifty link to show you lightning strike averages in California by month and bioregions from the years 1985 to 2000. It turns out that there tends to consistently be more lightning strikes during summer months, and there are a lot of them.

lightning strikes

Maybe you haven't seen them during August in 30 years, but maybe you haven't been watching very closely. However, scientists have been watching closely.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: roshambo
www.globalresearch.ca... reply to: Phage


Yeah. It's a bunch of bull#.


I'm pretty sure you can find that in the thesaurus.

Globalresearch.ca - bunch of bull#.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yeah ...
Research Program

This guy is right and there is a TON of evidence.



Physicist Bernard Eastlund claimed that HAARP includes technology based on his own patents that has the capability to modify weather and neutralize satellites. It has been proposed as a cause of low frequency background hums said to be heard in various locales.
Field of research: Ionosphere
Operating agency: University of Alaska Fairbanks



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Eastlund's patent was for a system that was 1,000 times more powerful than HAARP. His patent claimed a lot of stuff. That's generally what those who apply for patents do. That's called demonstrating the "usefullness" of an invention. The more uses an inventor can come up with, the better the chances that a patent will be granted. But it doesn't mean that the invention can do everything claimed.

But Eastlund was not a meteorologist, he did not explain how heating the ionosphere could affect weather, he just said it might be possible.

Any idea how a high frequency radio transmission can create a low frequency hum?


What is your source, btw? You didn't provide a link.
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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: slatesteam
a reply to: roshambo

Yes. It can and does.



NO, it cannot, and does not.
HAARP "High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program", only has a radio frequency effect in a near vacuum, the ionosphere.
If you learned about it, you would know.
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posted on Aug, 22 2020 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Why do people keep saying there is only one of these, it is not a secret they have been around every country has them.
This is 1980



From a Russian installation called the Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility near the town of Vasilsursk, east of Moscow, scientists emitted high-frequency radio waves to manipulate the ionosphere, while the China Seismo‐Electromagnetic Satellite (CSES) measured the effects on plasma disturbance from orbit.


www.sciencealert.com...



posted on Aug, 22 2020 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

There is only one HAARP. You just mentioned Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility, that would be SIHF (or whatever the Cyrillic version is), not HAARP.

There are a few other ionospheric heaters, though HAARP is/was the most powerful. Each of them affects a small portion of the ionosphere above them. None of them have any influence on weather.
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posted on Aug, 22 2020 @ 03:03 PM
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1997


There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. - Secretary of Defense William Cohen, "Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy," Sam Nunn Policy Forum. University of Georgia, Athens, GA.

weathermodificationhistory.com...



posted on Aug, 22 2020 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Yeah. Been there. Quite a while ago. Cohen's statement is often taken out of context by HAARPies.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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