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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

Are your attitudes a result of elitist academic propaganda/programming?

In a way academia does discourage religious ideas but that's only really because they encourage logical thinking. It's natural for scientific people to be opposed to religious thinking because it goes against the scientific approach. However I do try remain as neutral as possible, that's why you will rarely see me discussing religion on ATS, the arguments got old a very long time ago, and there's no solid evidence to prove either side is correct. Watching a devout religious person argue with a devout atheist is a painful thing because I see little difference between both those people.




posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 02:46 PM
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]originally posted by: ChaoticOrder


I appreciate the vid you posted very well done.

Thank you!
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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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So, who, created, the creator? since this stuff just doesn't happen. I'm not being argumentative, I'm looking for an answer..or at least your thoughts.

You can mark me down as Agnostic.
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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
In a infinite universe all things are possible in time. Anything and everything will eventually occur in an infinite amount of time. There is a higher power we just are not capable of seeing or discovering it as it lives in a higher dimension.

Will that power in time evolve that Vw into a Mac truck sitting in a junk yard with out the aid of human hand and intellect?
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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: JON666
No the two vehicles would do the nasty and give birth to a new type of vehicle. The MACKBUG! Look out as it stalks smaller trucks and hits on the sports cars.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

You know what, lay off the McDonalds
The body was designed for a healthy diet, Maybe blame God for not making the immune system for not coping with tobacco, binge drinking, Wuhan virus made in a lab, lead poisoning, healthy lifestyle?. Teeth made of pearls instead of stuff sugar rots.
Wisdom teeth, they were made for people who chew food, roughage not sucked it all through a tube or soft like Westeners eat, you neglect your body and you have issues.
Africans who eat roughage don’t have wisdom teeth issues.

You get the gist, intelligence seems appropriate



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

Unbridled hate? You and your insane bible buddy insult people and applaud eachother for being the vile creatures you are, but a list of design flaws is hate?

That was slightly annoyed and still far from hate.
You and raggedy are the reason why people don't like Christians. Think about that.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod
So, who, created, the creator? since this stuff just doesn't happen. I'm not being argumentative, I'm looking for an answer..or at least your thoughts.

You can mark me down as Agnostic.


How would the Creator be the Creator if he were created?

I suppose I could offer you the impossibility of a retro generational
universe for an explanation to your tiny conundrum. But I have pondered
this question long enough to keep away from trying to answer a question
that nobody knows the answer.

But if we look at the question who Created the Creator? Common sense
would tell us first that if the Creator was created then who ever created
him would be the true Creator. So despite the fact the question in no way
dismisses the Creator.

It completely ignores the fact that God himself has answered the question
scientifically and preemptively without ever being asked. God himself very
scientifically confirms the impossibility of retro generation when he
confirms himself as the causeless cause to Moses. And even scientifically
speaking there must be a causeless cause. So that's it, I dare not answer your
question when God himself has already answered it. But I will quote him."
I am that I am, so you can tell them I am sent you" Or something with that
effect.

My point is there is an answer to the question. But ancient texts are
concerned with how God thru time is dealing with us. Not the other
way around. This is exactly how it should be. For instance Caesar never
asked your question because he would be seen to doubt his own false
divinity. They were most of the time insecure enough weren't they?




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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids
I appreciate your answer.




posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Yes unbridled definitely of course it was more than a simple list.
I could feel your hate steaming off of every word. And people don't hate
Christians. Because Christians are also people. So I'll see if you would
like to use a more specific word.

a reply to: vonclod

Sorry it took me so long I had to think about it for awhile.
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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

The steam you felt was probably your God's hate for you.
Because I know for sure it wasn't mine.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

So God made all of it, knew in advance everything that would happen but couldn't be bothered to think this through?

Still not so intelligent.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Peeple




The steam you felt was probably your God's hate for you.
Because I know for sure it wasn't mine.


Well you've certainly convinced me.




Unbridled hate? You and your insane bible buddy insult people and applaud eachother for being the vile creatures you are, but a list of design flaws is hate?


I keep reading how insulting I am? Please can you help me out here?
Whom is it that I've insulted?



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids

originally posted by: vonclod
So, who, created, the creator? since this stuff just doesn't happen. I'm not being argumentative, I'm looking for an answer..or at least your thoughts.

You can mark me down as Agnostic.


How would the Creator be the Creator if he were created?

I suppose I could offer you the impossibility of a retro generational
universe for an explanation to your tiny conundrum. But I have pondered
this question long enough to keep away from trying to answer a question
that nobody knows the answer.

But if we look at the question who Created the Creator? Common sense
would tell us first that if the Creator was created then who ever created
him would be the true Creator. So despite the fact the question in no way
dismisses the Creator.

It completely ignores the fact that God himself has answered the question
scientifically and preemptively without ever being asked. God himself very
scientifically confirms the impossibility of retro generation when he
confirms himself as the causeless cause to Moses. And even scientifically
speaking there must be a causeless cause. So that's it, I dare not answer your
question when God himself has already answered it. But I will quote him."
I am that I am, so you can tell them I am sent you" Or something with that
effect.

My point is there is an answer to the question. But ancient texts are
concerned with how God thru time is dealing with us. Not the other
way around. This is exactly how it should be. For instance Caesar never
asked your question because he would be seen to doubt his own false
divinity. They were most of the time insecure enough weren't they?



Many classical philosophers believed the INFINITE nature of the Creator required no creation. INFINITE: no beginning, no ending. Our FINITE minds inwardly rebel at the notion.

“All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

You are being very selective.
What about all the bad stuff?

This ain't the work of a supreme being.
"This is the kind of sit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude"



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: carsforkids
You and raggedy are the reason why people don't like Christians. Think about that.


People's insecurity with their own answers is the reason people hate Christians.

Don't put that on people who have answers they accept.

They are wrong, but you're probably wrong too. Some questions are above our answering.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar




You are being very selective.
What about all the bad stuff?

This ain't the work of a supreme being.
"This is the kind of sit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude"


Such a convincing argument! This is the kind of office thinking that
would give any temp a bad attitude.
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posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

Great response.
But I'm curious if you have insecurity with your "answer".



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: carsforkids

Great response.
But I'm curious if you have insecurity with your "answer".


No I'm long passed that being even possible. This topic is full of
people with negative cookie cutter opinions that always add up
the same way. Huff and puff hatred, self righteous ridicule and
mockery. And never have I ever heard a single person provide a
more plausible sensible explanation for our existence than a
Supreme being. Most of these arguments are silly complaints from
spoiled cry babies. When mentally retarded little kids are some
how very often in the know about Jesus and the Father. And they're
the happiest people on earth I've ever seen. Many cases of this
phenomena I've seen myself. And no one knows how or why in
most cases. It's a as if they are just born with the knowledge.
But complain? Not on your life ever.

All that to say I think I'd rather be mentally disabled like them.
Then to be so mixed up with lies about the most important part
of existence. Especially without a better explanation than the one
I hate for no real reason at all. That is sad.
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posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: carsforkids
People hate Christians because they have an answer.

It's rare that you find someone who hates Christians because of their answer.




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