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posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

you may want to look this up, but even as little as 2 years ago, we frowned on socialism, now, you ain't cool unless you are all in for the burn. So "they" aren't the same "them" that were "them" before. "they" are giant assholes who want to change things by tearing them down.




posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JBurns

They!

Who are they?


Authors of the cancel culture, the politically correct "police", the SJW and AOC crowd

You know
the people who dox if someone says even the littlest conservative thought
the people who social media bully if one even says the tiniest conservative idea
the people who demand a person be fired for being a conservative and no other reason
the people who openly try to destroy businesses for supporting any conservative idea or thought
the people who attack homes in groups and intimidate families/children if someone in the home has publicly/on TV said the support Trump or don't support BLM
the bullies of the new socialist order

That is the they that is being discussed

Those who goal in life is to silence any and everyone who dares to speak anything that goes against their belief system/ideology/ideas or dares to say anything negative about them (even just saying "I disagree")

You know those like AOC who
deems all non-socialists/non-communists
as evil, racist, sexist and homophobic
as she did at the DNC virtual convention

You know those who refuse to respect
the flag or the nation and see the
entire nation and all it's citizens as a cesspool of evil institutional racists

You know those who will riot and destroy property
to keep an invited conservative speaker
from polluting the minds of college students

You know the il-liberal crowd
whose religion is socialism
whose tactics are communist (tear down and destroy all opposition)
who demand strict obedience to their moral codes (thou must not say the word .....) (thou must never disagree with us - or else) (thou must despise traditional Judeo-Christian morality as evil and repressive)
who demand that people who lack melanin in their skin must self flagellate and pay for the all the sins of their great-great grandparents, even if they despise what their ancestors did, they are still responsible and must admit they are responsible and must feel the shame of their privilege and repent and even that is not enough

Have I defined them now?
the new il-liberal crowd
who don't believe in classic liberalism
who don't believe in freedom of speech, unless it is their approved speech
the "progressive" crowd
who believe totalitarian repression and oppression are how you improve society
the Democratic Party who are now the tools of AOC and the Squad who loathe any and everything traditionally American and see the US itself as full of racist, sexist bigots who must be reformed into socialists who hate Israelis' and see Christianity as dangerous.


'They' have even been in power before, politically, and yet none of that actually happened. 'They' upheld the Constitutionally mandated systems, maintained legal process, managed the economy, paid for vast essential infrastructure, and sought to redress evils. 'They' weren't perfect, but neither is the current administration.

Consider that most of this over the top railing against perceived enemies seems to have occurred under the Trump campaign and administration.

I see the divisive propagandist activity of the current administration and the denigration of the plight of those who are genuinely oppressed, as your true enemies. While you seem to see the very things, the division and distrust, that the administration promulgates. But I'm not immersed in the culture that they have built, like you are, I have a distant view.

Clearly, history shows the truth. All else is 'tilting at windmills'.


This is a new Democratic Party, one led by the nose by avowed socialists like AOC and the Squad

One where a large number of Democrats highly support Sanders another avowed socialist who wants to radically change the US, raise taxes very high on the middle class and up to take from the middle class working class to give to the poor and those who don't want to work. AOC says that everyone, even those who don't want to work should get a guaranteed income, supplied by sky high taxes on those who do work. Biden has pledged to raise and raise taxes on everyone.

One where the party is steeped in the old white liberal Howard/Pliven strategy of destroying the nation to reset it

This isn't the Democratic Party of Clinton.

The new Democrats want radical changes in the nation, high taxes, and want to punish those who dare to disagree with them.

This is not your fathers Democratic Party, not even the party of Bill Clinton.

In 2016 when the DNC voted to incorporate BLM into the party they showed just how deeply they had changed. BLM leaders are avowed Marxists, communists. This has been incorporated into mainstream DNC by vote in 2016. nypost.com... www.bostonherald.com...



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

you may want to look this up, but even as little as 2 years ago, we frowned on socialism, now, you ain't cool unless you are all in for the burn. So "they" aren't the same "them" that were "them" before. "they" are giant assholes who want to change things by tearing them down.


The history of the McCarthyist purges, and of the numbers of avowed Communists in the USA, in political and public life, for decades, shows how wrong your perception is.

Socialist incentives and enterprises like public health, social security, drives for social equality, community shared facilities, etc, have been at the core of US governance right back to Washington's Presidency.

What has changed is that now the current political administration has labelled these things as 'Socialist' and therefore enemy. They have painted Trump as being the 'ultimate patriot' (hint, he clearly doesn't give a damn about anything other than himself) and if you disagree with him, you are 'unpatriotic'.


edit on 19/8/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: XCrycek
Yawn. Here we go again.
Trumpsters and their victim mentality.
Mommaaa they said evil things about us waaaa..
However you cheer and drule whenever that blabbering incompetent fatso tweets something derogatory about your fellow Americans.

Trump created this political climate now you're crying like a little sissy when people serve you.
Get used to it because there will be more come november.


Nah bro, these are your peeps with the victim mentality... Y'all own Trigglypuff.




posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

you may want to look this up, but even as little as 2 years ago, we frowned on socialism, now, you ain't cool unless you are all in for the burn. So "they" aren't the same "them" that were "them" before. "they" are giant assholes who want to change things by tearing them down.


The history of the McCarthyist purges, and of the numbers of avowed Communists in the USA, in political and public life, for decades, shows how wrong your perception is.

Socialist incentives and enterprises like public health, social security, drives for social equality, community shared facilities, etc, have been at the core of US governance right back to Washington's Presidency.

What has changed is that now the current political administration has labelled these things as 'Socialist' and therefore enemy. They have painted Trump as being the 'ultimate patriot' (hint, he clearly doesn't give a damn about anything other than himself) and if you disagree with him, you are 'unpatriotic'.



I invite you to show me which politicians identified as "democratic socialists" prior to 2016. (Besides Bernie)
Remember, you can't just say it for it to be right, you have to back that sh!t up.



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut




I see the divisive propagandist activity of the current administration


Sorry but I don’t think you do see it, you see whatever your agenda driven news sources tell you to see. Trump is an excuse for the left to create division not a reason and it all boils down to the lefts current blood thirsty quest for power. The left hast been a million times more divisive than anyone on the right, Trump included. You would never know it listening to the media but people with a few brain cells can see that Trump is not the real issue. It’s the lefts greed for power that’s created the largest majority of the division not DJT.

The one thing that has surprised me the most in the last 4 yrs, is people’s inability to see through all the politically manufactured BS. It’s always existed to some degree but has become so blatant that you really have to be one brick shy of a load not to see it for what it really is.



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Some folks on the left, and a few even from the right. They hate the fact we resist their agenda and will try to punish us in any way possible



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

you may want to look this up, but even as little as 2 years ago, we frowned on socialism, now, you ain't cool unless you are all in for the burn. So "they" aren't the same "them" that were "them" before. "they" are giant assholes who want to change things by tearing them down.


The history of the McCarthyist purges, and of the numbers of avowed Communists in the USA, in political and public life, for decades, shows how wrong your perception is.

Socialist incentives and enterprises like public health, social security, drives for social equality, community shared facilities, etc, have been at the core of US governance right back to Washington's Presidency.

What has changed is that now the current political administration has labelled these things as 'Socialist' and therefore enemy. They have painted Trump as being the 'ultimate patriot' (hint, he clearly doesn't give a damn about anything other than himself) and if you disagree with him, you are 'unpatriotic'.



I invite you to show me which politicians identified as "democratic socialists" prior to 2016. (Besides Bernie)
Remember, you can't just say it for it to be right, you have to back that sh!t up.


History of the socialist movement in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Social Democratic Party of North America was started in 1874.

I would consider that I have backed up my assertion and that it is parked outside the truck stop/diner.




posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

LOL, so besides Bernie, you got nothing. Well played.



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

LOL, so besides Bernie, you got nothing. Well played.


The Wikipedia page I posted, if you had actually read it, mentioned 'democratic socialists' repeatedly.

The wiki page said that in 1957 there was a Democratic Socialist Federation (DSF).

Members of that party would have, therefore, identified themselves as democratic socialists, especially in comparison to those in the other socialist party at the time, the Socialist Party–Social Democratic Federation (SP-SDF) from whom they split.

Wikipedia also said that in 1973, the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee (DSOC) split from the Social Democrats, USA (SDUSA).

The Wikipedia page also said that the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) was formed in 1982 and that the DSA's position on American electoral politics states that "democratic socialists reject an either-or approach to electoral coalition building, focused solely on [either] a new party or on realignment within the Democratic Party" - see, they actually called themselves democratic socialists in print and on the permanent record, well before 2016!

All this splitting and renaming was like something out of Monty Python, LOL, but there were US politicians who called themselves 'democratic socialists' prior to 2016.

You were not correct.

edit on 19/8/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 19 2020 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

It appears some hot air is something we can count on but little if any substance can be accurately discussed with a wiki on Politics. That is comical. Can I change that entry still?


edit on 19-8-2020 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

I didn't make it clear, I was talking about living breathing, currently in congress kind of folks. I am actually aware that in the past, socialist, and dare I say, even Communists have existed.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: XCrycek

You're wrong on this one. Trump didn't create this climate, Trump was actually elected as a rejection of the ideas expressed by the people the OP is referring to.



posted on Aug, 20 2020 @ 11:46 PM
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Since they have the force of law and violence and you are all talk on the internet?

None of you are prepared to do anything to stop them, sorry. I've been to too many training events for so called 3% groups and they are fat ass neckbeards, many mentally and physically crippled who couldn't shoot a soldier any more than they could outmaneuver one. One large group held a meeting and an OG member was 500+ pounds with type 1 billion diabetes and he was telling people he was on coms, lol like I would trust communication to a guy who should be boobytrapped with a suicide vest on, nope.

My plan is actually to lay low until they mess with the wrong green stripe and then we'll see what time it is.

I've actually been working out my boiling pitch traps, hopefully I can go out on a coke fueled bezerker rage while scores of my enemies melt to death.
edit on 20-8-2020 by circuitsports because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 02:44 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

unfortunately people have always believed whatever the majority of people tell them too believe... Hence the media.

The bible told of this as an alegory thousands of years ago.

"jesus" is the truth. The way the light of the world.

People crucify the truth. They don't want to hear it. And they glorify thieves.

It's the ancient story of Barrabas. Humanity will always deny the truth and worship ignorance.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: circuitsports

Sounds fun. If you can still get it up after all the blow, you should cuck their wives before you melt them.
As for the rest...I didn't spend upwards of ten grand on guns and ammo to just give it away....not in the traditional sense, anyway. Anyone, anyone, and I mean ANYONE who would disarm us is our mortal enemy shall be treated as such.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 11:29 AM
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This reply fits here too.

originally posted by: FinallyAwake

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: IAMTAT

The ALT-LEFT continues to show their true colors.



I've heard antifa labelled liberal left and progressive left too, as a Brit this confused tf out of me. Forgive my ignorance 😕


OK Leftist want to stomp on your rights, take everything anyone haves and give it away just like the Bolsheviks and NAZI's wanted total control of every aspect.

Right leaning people are for as close to NO GOV as we can get and still exist as a society.


ALL SPEECH is free in the Right leaning world

ONLY APPROVED SPEECH in the Leftist Marxist world of more and more and more Gov control over daily lives of everyday humans.



posted on Aug, 21 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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Anyone, anyone, and I mean ANYONE who would disarm us is our mortal enemy shall be treated as such.


That's right!

Even if one of "our own" tried, it would have to be treated the same

Have to fight like hell against any belligerant who attempts disarmant, confiscation, restriction, infringement etc
edit on 8/21/2020 by JBurns because: (no reason given)




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