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Black babies more likely to survive when cared for by black doctors

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posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
That last line....


Despite the stark findings, black women seeking a black doctor to minimize the risk to their babies will struggle as the medical workforce remains disproportionately white. Only 5% of doctors are black, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.


I'm just guessing here.....but this is a statistics thing.....obviously there will be more white docs with deaths of every race if that is true....


This paragraph just proves what this is all about.

This can be binned as it isn't a study. It's critical race theory applied to statistics.

It's nonsense and should be derided as such. Anyone who pushes this nonsense should be ridiculed for being an idiot.




posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 06:50 AM
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When you have only 5% of doctors whom are black versus 95% of the rest, of course you are going to have skewed results.

You should (better) have less black babies dying under the 5% compared to the rest regardless of their skin color.

Let’s be fair, out of the 95% how many are white?How many are Indian, Asian, Hispanic, etc? Those numbers are equally important if you are going to lay it out like the Guardian did.


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posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 07:01 AM
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I would bet that this is a class thing, if it is really a thing at all, that relates primarily to location. Poor people who go to hospitals and get health care services in poor areas where they live, likely get poor service. Hospital staff are over worked in these areas no doubt. Such hospitals likely attract less of the best in every field. Also, a mother has a responsibility for prenatal care and personal health, something that could be a factor for poor patients.

As far as percentages of race in the health care field, my personal Dr. is Latino, I love the guy, great Dr. I have also had some other white Doctors that weren't so great, but those usually had less experience. Another Doctor that did surgery on me was from Iraq, I loved that guy too and worried for his family back in the old country. A doctor is good or bad not because of their race IMO, it more about they type of person they are to begin with and how much experience they have.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe




I'm just guessing here.....but this is a statistics thing.....obviously there will be more white docs with deaths of every race if that is true....


funny how people can make math say anything is racist ain't it.


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posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

Doctors use different numbers for different races when trying to calculate kidney filtration rate. African bone density is thicker. I could go on but the differences are tiny but they are there.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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My gynecologist was also my friend. Great doctor. She cared for all pregnant women, regardless of income, color, etc. The one thing she said she struggled with was getting black women to come in for regular checkups while pregnant. They had all their visits covered by medicaid, so this isn't a situation where they were too poor to come.

Diet, nutrition and prenatal visits are all very important and need to be factored into this equation.

This is a cultural issue in my opinion, way more than a racist thing. Years ago I volunteered at a therapeutic nursery in the poorest part of the town I lived in. I really enjoyed it, but it was tough sometimes. I had to teach a few classes on nutrition. The women were polite, but I don't know that they listened or took in the information. I felt strongly at the time, that if I had been black, they would have paid more attention, or perhaps trusted more.

I think a lot black women are more likely to trust a black doctor, no matter how they are treated. I think they are also more likely to follow their treatment plan.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

but are not based on race

bone density is controlled by your genes , much like nearly everything in our bodies

you are right there are differences but these are based on your genetic heritage and where your genes come from

The genetics of bone density



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:29 AM
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Our governor believes this crap. She has ordered all Michigan medical staff to take a BS inclusion class to retain their licensing. It really is a crock. I wonder if the study included all the Indian doctors with White doctors? They make up a large percentage of our physicians and specialists now.

Just as I suspected, it does not mention anything other than White & Black doctors in the US. I guess the Latino, Indian & Asian doctors didn't factor in at all.

What utter garbage.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: dug88

Why do we even bother integrating anymore when every black voice the media touts tells us that black people are better cared for by black people and black players are better off with black coaches and black students learn more with black teachers?

Democrats have screamed about diversity and including blacks ever since they were defeated on the Civil Rights issue. Now they're screaming about being segregated. The irony is thicker than El Chapo's tunnel walls.

This is what happens when you erase your history and dumb down education.

So is it time to segregate again, dems? Let blacks take care of blacks (I feel sorry for my black brethren with common sense), teach blacks, have their own neighborhoods, stores, police and fire departments, and EMS? WTG, democrats.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:31 AM
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Reparations will fix this.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:39 AM
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Thank you

LOL

Thank you

This is so damn funny....





a reply to: dug88



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

I guess I’m failing to see where these semantics matter in real world application



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:40 AM
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I'm convinced Democrats and the media don't understand basic math and statistics.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: dug88

In a related study of my own, the lead author of this study is one Brad Greenwood.

English translation of Ashkenazic Jewish Grünholz, an ornamental compound of German grün ‘green’ + Holz ‘wood’, and probably of German Grünwald (see Gruenwald).


A quick google search reveals is there are only 10 million Ashkenazi world-wide.


A very tiny people and yet they pop up everywhere.

They are very talented.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

race is real in that it affects society and politics and the way our world operates because of previously held misconceptions about our biology and what makes us human but there is no biological evidence for race
you may call it semantics but its about applying the correct language to this if we ever hope to achieve unity of mind among our diverse human populations.

We have to do away with the old understanding which we held as the 5 races
and start speaking in terms of our genetic ancestry when describing our ethnic origins



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: solarjetman

Do you support a segregated society?



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: klimitzgus
This is a cultural issue in my opinion, way more than a racist thing.


Totally agree. The issue here is that the author(s) believe the cause is racism and then finds the fiction to fit the facts. This blinkered mindset is supported by the echo-chamber, thus become fact. You can see this in the way the Guardian (from the OP) reports this without even attempting a critique.

Of course, to disagree with the findings is in itself a racist act. It is either conscious or unconscious, but certainly racist to question “research” on racism.

Please don’t report me. I have children! I’ll repent.



posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 12:24 PM
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Well first Black babies have significantly lower chances to even make it out of the womb...

So a healthy baby sees a doctor about 6 times in their first year. We need to look at the lifestyle that these Black babies live in when over 70% of the time the mother is single with many are very young with no dad to support or in sight.

What does that first year look like for a black baby? What could a white doctor do differently? Maybe healthcare closer to the problem is what provides the over site for at least a better monitoring as many Black children are born into a dysfunctional family culture that is wide spread in many Black majority areas. I'm sure many of those doctors and nurses in those situations are also minorities mostly, so I agree with having support that in many cases comes to the child instead of the mother taking the child to the healthcare is best in these poverty stricken areas of high crime, gangs, drug use...etc.


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posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

Totally agree. The issue here is that the author(s) believe the cause is racism and then finds the fiction to fit the facts. This blinkered mindset is supported by the echo-chamber, thus become fact. You can see this in the way the Guardian (from the OP) reports this without even attempting a critique.



So what would a White pediatrician do differently than a Black one? Also pediatricians are about 60% female, and many more are pediatric nurse who fill that role too that are mostly all female, so what is the correlation they use to come to such a conclusion?


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posted on Aug, 18 2020 @ 01:08 PM
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I see it's been completely skipped over with the higher rates of black women skipping post-partum exams and pediatric follow-ups. Mortality has HUGE ties to those.

It's on them, not the doctors. If they want to avoid them, that's fine, but don't blame the doctor for your choices.




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