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“Fascists,” he said. “They are fascists.”

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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




It's your 1st Amendment right to voice your opinion.


...Without government censure and punishment. But my freedom to voice my opinion without consequence is NOT an inalienable right. In fact, there are various ways that your voice can legally be silenced by the government, right here in America the Great.

Freedom is just another word for "nothing left to lose". "Give me liberty or give me death"!


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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Lumenari

Wrong the current goverment is attempting to weaponise their base against fellow American citizens that have a differing political stance.



They need to.

First off, as an offset against the left weaponizing Antifa, BLM, Covid and everything else they can find to attempt to change the results of the next election.

Secondly, as an attempt to get anti-Americans (such as yourself) called to task for their blatant attempt to circumvent the Constitution.

And third and finally, to bring normality back to America.

I can't currently drive to Portland and shop with my wife without the fear that I am going to be dragged out of my truck and beaten to death because of my bumper sticker.

The current government is not doing that.

The Democratic party is.

I'm a 57 year old woman.

You would be OK with that because of MY political views.

Own it.




Oh so the Democrat platform officially endorsed antifa ?


So the Democratic-run cities and states have not let Antifa and BLM and the rioters and the looters and the murderers run unchecked through their cites, causing billions of dollars of damage and over 200 deaths so far?

They don't have to publicly endorse it to allow it to happen.

You understand that, right?

You also need to get better at this "debate" thing.

Because currently you suck at it.

Although it is amusing to respond to.



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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Ok, we can move those posts.

There's not that many..but...there they are and they aren't publicans.



Show me proof these riots and protests are politically motivated.


Need to be more specific. Mayor or govenor? Police chief or deputy? From there we can get close.

While you try to decide how you'd like that information served up, I'll go find some pro trump riots....



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism" < - the first words from the Wikipedia page on Fascism.

Fascism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



If you take out far right and if you take out nationalism then you have the Biden ticket, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy. Fits them to a T. i



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

That's your opinion and it's not based in reality.

The system is flawed, this is not a one sided issue.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:22 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Ok, we can move those posts.

There's not that many..but...there they are and they aren't publicans.



Show me proof these riots and protests are politically motivated.


Need to be more specific. Mayor or govenor? Police chief or deputy? From there we can get close.

While you try to decide how you'd like that information served up, I'll go find some pro trump riots....



I don't doubt you will find one or two idiots protesting about politics, just look how many political hooligans infest this site.

Let me reiterate, the vast majority are not protesting because of politics.
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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

...Without government censure and punishment. But my freedom to voice my opinion without consequence is NOT an inalienable right.


This is where you've made a mistake.

Actions have consequences.

Words do not. Ideas do not. Only actions stemmed from ideas that infringe on rights should have consequences.

You want to censor people because you think words have consequences.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




This is where you've made a mistake.

Actions have consequences.

Words do not. Ideas do not.


BS! If that were the case, the First Amendment would be moot. Men and women have been murdered by all kinds of governments over the words they uttered and the ideals they've proclaimed.

Clearly, you've proven yourself unworthy of intellectual engagement.


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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Nope, just a believer of the 1st AMendment, pity you've just proven you are not.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism" < - the first words from the Wikipedia page on Fascism.

Fascism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



If you take out far right and if you take out nationalism then you have the Biden ticket, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy. Fits them to a T. i


If you take out some people's brains and there would not be that much difference.



You know, the USA had a number of times when there were Democrat Presidents over the years, and none of that happened. They really are bad at pushing forth an agenda, eh!



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The effort you are putting in to justify your version of reality is commendable.

Wasn't a black Trump supporter killed by the rioters? See im not, nor were you talking about protesters. We are talking about what violence may occur vs what is occurring.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

I thought we were talking about the current goverment pitting the people against each other for their political views .



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

And if you don't live in America your opinion isn't squat.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Useful tools vs useful idiots, sure.

Still, one "side" is actually in the streets currently.

Is there an echo in here?



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

One political party is pitting the rest of America against themselves by their own actions. Now which one is looting, burning and rioting again?


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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism" < - the first words from the Wikipedia page on Fascism.

Fascism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Now show us the same definition from a real encyclopedia and not something that anyone can edit, wiki had an edit 13 days ago.

🤣

Enjoy those covid camps.



posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:46 PM
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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: chr0naut

And if you don't live in America your opinion isn't squat.


Is there some part of America that is more valid for opinions than another? As a non-American, I'd just like to know these things.

Anyway, I see from your avatar that you have kept your head. What are you going to do with it?



But, back on topic, aren't Fascists from overseas - from Italy? Are they 'squat' too, and if so, why are all these Americans talking about them?

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posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Lumenari

That's your opinion and it's not based in reality.

The system is flawed, this is not a one sided issue.


You do realize that I have called you anti-American twice so far in this thread and you didn't rebut that?

It IS a one-sided issue.

Own it.

And I am out of this thread because I am embarrassed FOR you.

I apologize... you are correct on everything and may you live forever.




posted on Aug, 17 2020 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari



because Orange Man bad

What I find ironic is that the only people I ever see using that phrase are Trump supporters. The Trump supporters project that upon the non-Trump supporters.

I've never heard or read a non-Trump supporter say that.




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