a reply to: jeep3r
I am pretty familiar with Vallee's work and I've read a few of his books. His work and that of John Keel are the two ufo investigators who interested
me the most. Both have some overlaps and also different perspectives on things. Different from each other and most other researchers.
I wouldn't necessarily favour one or the other - I feel both have interesting insights and information. But if I had to recommend two of the most
interesting UFO experts I've come across - it would be Vallee and Keel every time.
Here's a reference to Keel and a quote:
"Keel said he abandoned the ETH when his field investigations ‘disclosed an astonishing
overlap between psychic phenomena and UFOs’. In explaining this conversion, he said his
inquiries revealed that: ‘…a large part of the UFO lore is subjective and many alleged UFO
events are actually the products of a complex hallucinatory process, particularly in the
contactee and [close encounter]-type reports. The same process stimulated religious beliefs,
fairy lore, and occult systems of belief in other centuries.’xi From 1970 he developed his
theory in five books that challenged the ETH and offered an alternative, occult-based
hypothesis for UFOs and related phenomena. These were UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse
(1970), Strange Creatures from Time and Space (1970), Our Haunted Planet (1971), The
Mothman Prophecies and The Eighth Tower (both published in 1975). He also produced a
stream of syndicated articles both for mainstream media and the specialist UFO magazines
including Palmer’s Flying Saucers and the British-based Flying Saucer Review.
In his books and articles Keel ‘sought to recast UFOlogy and Fortean study as aspects of
demonology.’xii He borrowed a key concept, ‘ultra-terrestrials,’ from the writings of a
Californian occultist, N. Meade Layne, who believed the occupants of flying saucers were
shape-shifting spiritual entities from ‘the etheric realm.’xiii Whereas Layne believed the
etherians were benign, Keel’s ultra-terrestrials, like Shaver’s deros, sought to control and
manipulate humans. According to Keel, these ultra-terrestrials (or UTs) ‘cultivate belief in
various frames of references, and then…deliberately create new manifestations which support
those beliefs.’xiv Although Keel produced no explicit definition of what he meant by ‘ultraterrestrial,’ he believed UFOs (as flying saucers
were described from the 1960s onwards),
were the medium by which these intelligences entered our world, writing: ‘The objects and
apparitions do not necessarily originate on another planet and may not even exist as
permanent constructions of matter…it is more likely that we see what we want to see and
interpret such visions according to our contemporary beliefs.’xv In The Eighth Tower (1975),
Keel substituted Layne’s etheric realm for what he called the ‘super-spectrum,’ and proposed
that UFOs were composed of energy from the ‘upper frequencies of the electro-magnetic
spectrum.’ According to his theory, these shape-changing objects only became visible when
they descended to the very narrow range of light that is visible to the human eye."
The most interesting ideas in Keel's work for me - were the "impossible aircraft" type of sightings and as a tangent the ghost rocket information and
then and the main point were the reports and Keel's direct experiences of the prankster aspects of UFOlogy - where it seemed someone or something was
directly interacting with him, but in a manner that gave you the impression it was "messing around" or basically trying to screw with people who were
trying to investigate the subject. Very unusual and interesting. In terms of root causes and explanations - well that's completely open to
Is any of it true?
Were both trying to interpret something that neither of them could properly understand and perhaps it isn't understandable by us (humans) ?
How would you perceive a form of consciousness that may be operating on a very different level to you ?
It may be like the classic analogy of a fish trying to understand the world outside of it's pool, water or lake etc. Ultimately it's highly unlikely
the fish will ever really understand it - it has very limited exposure to it and under normal circumstances, the world outside of the water that a
fish lives in, has very little relevance to a fish.