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When Driving..Is it Legal to Run Over Protestor Terrorists Who Stand In Your Way?

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posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 05:47 PM
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I'm glad I live in the hills. I get impatient, and might turn to flight in panic mode. Not purposefully, but in threatening situations, I am not easily able to control myself. Which I'm sure happens to a lot of people in these situations, and should be taken into consideration.




posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

You know what...
I doubt if either of us have to worry about 2000 people showing up in front of our houses!! I know I dont have to.. and I kind of think you live in a more remote area than me!!
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think you are a city dweller, are you? And, quite frankly, I would rather live in a shack in the countryside than in a big city! Lol... I'd be more likely to look out and find a herd of violent deer or a few bears. Matter of fact, we have walked out to find a bear near our porch. Never thought to run him over with a car either.

Defunding the police?? I have heard about small towns having to disband their police force because of lack of funds. In those cases the county or state forces took over.
Lol.. either defunding the police doesnt mean what it sounds like, or some people went off the deep end..
And, sad to say, either option is probably just as possible as the other.

So, we should just surround the areas where these riots/protests occur and arrest anyone who tries to get out? So, your kid is sick, needs medicine, you dont really want to go out in that chaos but well you just ain't gonna let the kid go without it. So you go out in the chaos, your car is blocked in by the mob so you navigate through the chaos to the nearest pharmacy. As you get near, you find cops have blocked your path off and is diverting everyone off your path adding six more blocks to your walk.. you finally get within two blocks of the pharmacy, can see it in front of you, a nice peaceful area but then you are blocked from it and end up getting arrested when you try to tell the cops that you just want to get you kid the medicine he needs!! You end up spending the rest of the night in custody. Now, why would you intentionally drive or walk into a riot again? You happen to live there, or work there and crap happens that needs to be addressed in a timely manner! Like I said, there is at least one area that it's been 24/7 chaos for over a month. You cant expect the people living in that area to just shelter in place for the duration. You cant just assume that anyone and everyone out on the street are rioting thugs!
Stop it at all costs?? Gee, I imagine if we bomb the area, it might stop. What?? Too drastic for you? Well you tell me, just what the heck is driving your car into a crowd gonna do outside of getting the mob more frenzied and wrecking your car? Stopping it at all costs is easier said than done,
I'd rather try to come up with ideas as to how we could prevent the situation from getting so out of control to begin with.
And, my big contribution to that is just for people to mind their own business! I am not the protesting type, you will probably never see me out in the streets protesting. But one thing I can guarantee you is that you will never see me in your neck of the woods, protesting what you town has decided to do or protesting the actions of your police dept.
You take care of your neck of the woods, i will take care of mine. If everyone would just mind their own business, work at improving the area they call home, we would all probably much happier and the size of these riots/protests would be much more manageable.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: FlyingSquirrel
a reply to: Breakthestreak

It's most definitely illegal to do those things, they just get away with it sometimes.

Except for running over conservatives, I've never seen someone do that yet. Probably because they very rarely get together in large numbers in public.

Why is that btw? Avoiding getting ran over?

Most of us have an obligation to a job, a way of life and respect for mature dialog. I don't know how there can be so many people gathering at night - every night - unless they just don't have anything else to do. Must be a sad existence.


Due to Over-reaction regarding the Covid-19 epidemic, most of the CLUBS are closed. Young people are letting of steam and energy by protesting...even without knowing WHAT they are protesting.
edit on 8/15/2020 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.

Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.


I'm not saying that because I support the sh#tshow that this has become..I do not. But, legally and generally speaking.. protest is allowed, and no, not allowed to run them over.

It's happened to me, where I live..I took another path.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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I think it should be mandatory to run down morons who stand in the way of traffic.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.

Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.


I'm not saying that because I support the sh#tshow that this has become..I do not. But, legally and generally speaking.. protest is allowed, and no, not allowed to run them over.

It's happened to me, where I live..I took another path.


I've done that too, in a Chicago housing project 3 years ago. They were shooting dice in the middle of the street. I turned around and went another direction.

In the OP, I was using the blocked from leaving a parking garage example. Then, you yell out the window... "Im coming through full-speed in 20 seconds...please move!" 30 seconds later, you're on your way home.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar


I doubt if either of us have to worry about 2000 people showing up in front of our houses!! I know I dont have to.. and I kind of think you live in a more remote area than me!!

Yeah, I'm pretty remote. Far enough back that I worry much more about four-legged than two-legged critters. However, there is a road near me, and if these riots were to spread far enough, it could happen even here.

Or at your place. Don't think for a moment living in the boonies makes you safe. Humans can travel at high speeds.


So, we should just surround the areas where these riots/protests occur and arrest anyone who tries to get out?

Riots, not riots/protests. I'm not letting you get away with that.

I suggested that approach for CHAZ/CHOP/the Summer of Love. That was a well-defined area which was completely taken over and the police were prevented from entering. Most protests do not fall into those categories.


So, your kid is sick, needs medicine, you dont really want to go out in that chaos but well you just ain't gonna let the kid go without it. So you go out in the chaos, your car is blocked in by the mob so you navigate through the chaos to the nearest pharmacy.

Or, more likely, your car is beaten to a pulp or set afire with you inside it. How does that benefit the sick kid who needs medicine?

You just underscored why these riots need to be put down. Remember, these rioters also attacked a Ronald McDonald House... where there were sick children who were huddled inside in terror.


Stopping it at all costs is easier said than done,
I'd rather try to come up with ideas as to how we could prevent the situation from getting so out of control to begin with.

I agree, but...

Stopping it is easy when it starts. Now, not so much. Stopping it now will require much bloodshed. That's why it should have been stopped earlier.


And, my big contribution to that is just for people to mind their own business!

I agree with you!

However, this is about a lot more than just minding one's own business. When it enters the realm of people being hurt and/or killed, it becomes the business of the law. The rioters are the ones not minding their own business. Those cars trying to leave were not the ones injecting themselves into someone else's business... that was the rioters.

This is not about us trying to interfere with people wanting to riot... this is about us needing to interfere with people who are being hurt and/or killed, and who are screaming out for help. There's a difference between minding one's own business and protecting the oppressed when called upon to do so.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: vonclod


Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.

To exit a parking garage? What, drive off the top of the building?

Most parking garages I know of have only one entrance and only one exit.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.

Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.


I'm not saying that because I support the sh#tshow that this has become..I do not. But, legally and generally speaking.. protest is allowed, and no, not allowed to run them over.

It's happened to me, where I live..I took another path.


I've done that too, in a Chicago housing project 3 years ago. They were shooting dice in the middle of the street. I turned around and went another direction.

In the OP, I was using the blocked from leaving a parking garage example. Then, you yell out the window... "Im coming through full-speed in 20 seconds...please move!" 30 seconds later, you're on your way home.


Ok, I totally get that, it's frustrating.

Believe me, I was pissed the time I had to detour. In the case of a parking garage, my visceral reaction would be drive through, but my thought process, would make me stop and analyse the crowd. A couple of people banging a drum, I might cautiously proceed. Unfortunately, that probably isn't the kind of protesters you guys are dealing with..it has good chances of ending badly. I would probably leave on foot and go back for my car.

This crap has gone on too long, and I agree with you, right, wrong, or indifferent, the lockdown has made people insane, and idle hands are the devils playthings.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.

Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.


I'm not saying that because I support the sh#tshow that this has become..I do not. But, legally and generally speaking.. protest is allowed, and no, not allowed to run them over.

It's happened to me, where I live..I took another path.


I've done that too, in a Chicago housing project 3 years ago. They were shooting dice in the middle of the street. I turned around and went another direction.

In the OP, I was using the blocked from leaving a parking garage example. Then, you yell out the window... "Im coming through full-speed in 20 seconds...please move!" 30 seconds later, you're on your way home.

Ok, I totally get that, it's frustrating.

This crap has gone on too long, and I agree with you, right, wrong, or indifferent, the lockdown has made people insane, and idle hands are the devils playthings.


The really crazy thing is that the very imbeciles in government who implemented the lockdowns, are blaming the lockdowns for the death and destruction....with no apologies, or admission of guilt in any way.

TOTAL IMBECILES run Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis... AND the states where those cities are located.
edit on 8/15/2020 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: vonclod


Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.

To exit a parking garage? What, drive off the top of the building?

Most parking garages I know of have only one entrance and only one exit.

TheRedneck


I didn't understand the specific parameters of the question(parking garage)..my bad, I addressed it with CWM.

In summary..I would probably leave on foot, if I thought it was going to get someone killed(either myself, or one of them) by leaving at that moment.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck
I bet the terrorists wouldn't block a CASINO's parking garage exit!



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.

Maybe, just TURN THE F AROUND!!!!..what a concept.


I'm not saying that because I support the sh#tshow that this has become..I do not. But, legally and generally speaking.. protest is allowed, and no, not allowed to run them over.

It's happened to me, where I live..I took another path.


I've done that too, in a Chicago housing project 3 years ago. They were shooting dice in the middle of the street. I turned around and went another direction.

In the OP, I was using the blocked from leaving a parking garage example. Then, you yell out the window... "Im coming through full-speed in 20 seconds...please move!" 30 seconds later, you're on your way home.

Ok, I totally get that, it's frustrating.

This crap has gone on too long, and I agree with you, right, wrong, or indifferent, the lockdown has made people insane, and idle hands are the devils playthings.


The really crazy thing is that the very imbeciles in government who implemented the lockdowns, are blaming the lockdowns for the death and destruction....with no apologies, or admission of guilt in any way.

TOTAL IMBECILES run Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis... AND the states where those cities are located.

Unfortunately, there are no shortage of imbeciles, running most places.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 10:26 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

Hey, fair enough.


PBR is on me.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Ya, I know humans can travel at high speeds. I live about 3/4 of the way up a mountain, on a highway just full of twists and curves. With far too many people thinking they are the best danged drivers in the world I guess because they are zipping down this mountain at top speed. Tires screeching at every curve, and well at least a few of them have ended up in the creek next to my house. You say only small children and the mentally challenged play in the city streets where the speed limit is 35 mph or less well, you'd have to be a suicidal maniac to even try to cross the road in front of my house.. if you happen to ever be zipping down this mountain and find a few thousand people in the road in front of my house, your choice if just gonna be to end up in the creek or or run into them. You wont have time to stop.

Have you seen the video of the violinists? It's on you tube. A group of violinists all sitting there playing their music, surrounded by people sitting on the ground listening. They weren't blocking an streets, or acting violent in any way. And, well, I guess the riot police just couldnt have that.
Why? I have no idea but when violins and music is considered a threat to the establishment worthy to send the riot police in, there is something deeply wrong!! I can see destroying the hornets nest if the hornets have built it in a high traffic area and people are getting stung... but why kick the hornets nest when the hornets are just going about doing their own thing and not harming anyone? It just sounds like a great way to get a bunch of hornets ticked off and come at you. So ya, its riots/protests, both are going on and maybe those riot police should have been less worried about a bunch of violinists and more worried about the violent actors, where ever they were at.

I have two thing to say about the chop bit.

First is, are you saying that there was no one living in that area?
And second... well, I will go back to that area that went a month living in that chaos. There was a courthouse that was the target. The rioters were dead set that they were gonna take it, burn it, dont know.. and then on the other side you have the feds, police, ect trying to defend it. Day after day, night after night, they listened to the chaos as the war went on. The loud bangs of the flash grenades would wake them up several times a night, tear gas ofter seeped through their windows and filled their homes...
If they could have found a way to drive the two sides away from each other and out of their neighborhood and blocked them from re-entering, would you gave blamed them for doing it?

When I say mind your own business... I am talking to fools that will travel through states to protest/riot/raise hell or even things like the bikers that recently converged into whatever town it was. Every community should be able to control the number of people coming into their area and say no if they perceive a risk that things will get out of hand and control will be lost. And. Once control is lost. I am sorry, but I dont see how you or me would be any help, more like we would just be a nuisance. It's a law enforcement issue at that point. The best thing to do is to just get out of their way and let them enforce as much as you can. I would prefer that the peaceful protestors just go home at suppertime, enjoy a nice dinner and watch a movie and make law enforcement's job a little easier. But. I am just words on a forum with a limited audience to consider and accept or reject.
But quite frankly, I dont care if you lean right or left (and there are groups on both sides doing this), if your intention is to turn our neighborhoods into war zones, I am not your friend.



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, August 14, 2020

I came across this video of Portland Protestors, standing in front of a downtown parking garage exit, not letting any of the cars leave last night.

Video Clip:

twitter.com...

As you can see, the drivers want to leave, but the anarchists won't let them.

Personally, I would yell out the window, "I'm coming through in 20 seconds...get out of way or get run over!"

If they hold the position, some will be injured and/or killed 25 seconds later.

Would I be brought up on criminal charges for doing that, if I was in Portland, or any city under a State of Emergency, due to ongoing ANTIFA-BLM terrorism in progress?

edit on 14-8-2020 by DrumsRfun because: Capital letters doesn't make it important



Does your life feel threatened in this scenario? I know I would feel threatened if I was boxed in by a bunch of people not letting me leave. That's pretty much kidnapping or holding someone against their will. If I felt my life was threatened I would do what I need to do to feel safe. If that means running someone over, then so be it.
edit on 16-8-2020 by jidnum because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, August 14, 2020

I came across this video of Portland Protestors, standing in front of a downtown parking garage exit, not letting any of the cars leave last night.

Video Clip:

twitter.com...

As you can see, the drivers want to leave, but the anarchists won't let them.

Personally, I would yell out the window, "I'm coming through in 20 seconds...get out of way or get run over!"

If they hold the position, some will be injured and/or killed 25 seconds later.

Would I be brought up on criminal charges for doing that, if I was in Portland, or any city under a State of Emergency, due to ongoing ANTIFA-BLM terrorism in progress?

edit on 14-8-2020 by DrumsRfun because: Capital letters doesn't make it important



Does your life feel threatened in this scenario? I know I would feel threatened if I was boxed in by a bunch of people not letting me leave. That's pretty much kidnapping or holding someone against their will. If I felt my life was threatened I would do what I need to do to feel safe. If that means running someone over, then so be it.


In the video, there are at least 4 cars lined up just inside the parking garage exit. All it would take is one firebomb from the BLM-ANTIFA Terrorists to set off a chain reaction.

The lead car driver should get out and tell the others behind him, "Follow me...we're going through!" That's what I would do.



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

It sounds like you are trying desperately to agree with me. People get hit on the road every day, while not trying to block traffic, simply by accident. The highway/street/road is not a safe place to be regardless, and especially so if one is purposely trying top panic drivers.

Not sure what violinists have to do with this... sounds like a separate issue to me.


are you saying that there was no one living in that area?

Absolutely not! But I am saying that extreme measures had to be taken, so everyone had to be checked out. Allowing someone to walk on by and just say "I live here" is an invitation for all to do that. Arrested is not convicted. Everyone deserves a fair trial after arrest, and that applies in the case of CHAZ/CHOP as well. It should be pretty easy to prove one lives there and was trying to escape if that be the case.


If they could have found a way to drive the two sides away from each other and out of their neighborhood and blocked them from re-entering, would you gave blamed them for doing it?

No, I would be on here extolling their virtues!

I would also be on here likely defending them. The law takes a dim view of defending oneself in these places, for some strange reason I cannot fathom. Out here, should TSHTF, I doubt the law would even care that my driveway had been repaved with blood, but in these cities just having a gun on one's hand is considered a crime in itself. I recall the couple who stood outside their home, armed, while wanna-be rioters passed by making threats against them... they were then prosecuted for defending their home!

Kinda hard to take any meaningful action against invaders when the local government is protecting them.


When I say mind your own business... I am talking to fools that will travel through states to protest/riot/raise hell or even things like the bikers that recently converged into whatever town it was.

RIOT, not protest/riot/raise hell. This has nothing to do with actual protesting.

I will agree then... I wasn't sure. Your comments could have been taken to mean anyone complaining about areas being taken over by rioters should mind their own business.

I do find it interesting... the bikers you mention showed up to protect the residents against the rioters. They didn't instigate... they reacted where the police refused. I find it hard to condemn any group for standing up for the oppressed.

Had the bikers driven in to instigate the issue, then I would agree with you. If a group of bikers showed up and started trouble with actual protesters, then I would agree with you. Arrest the lot of them and throw their butts under the jail. I have yet to heard of that happening. BLM/ANTIFA are starting the problems.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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So sad for you.
Having to wait a few moments.
Almost as bad as waiting hundreds of years just to be recognized as being a human being, with inalienable rights.

And also not having the ability to distinguish a protestor from rioter. You have a mental block there?
I suspect you may just be frightened.



posted on Aug, 16 2020 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: spacedoubt
So sad for you.
Having to wait a few moments.
Almost as bad as waiting hundreds of years just to be recognized as being a human being, with inalienable rights.

And also not having the ability to distinguish a protestor from rioter. You have a mental block there?
I suspect you may just be frightened.


lulz




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