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When Driving..Is it Legal to Run Over Protestor Terrorists Who Stand In Your Way?

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posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar


Charlottesville??

I don't remember geographically or politically limiting my statement. Let me repeat:

Anyone intentionally blocking traffic by playing in the street is either young children with parents who need to be watching them, mentally deficient enough to be in a mental health facility, or Darwin Award contestants.

Is there anything ambiguous in that? I'll be happy to reword it to take any ambiguity out if you'll show it to me.


And.. have you ever been driving down a road and had to slow down for a bunch of teenagers too stupid to get out of the road? Would you consider them fair game for a hit and run?

Are you being intentionally obtuse?


And, well, maybe if we taught those teenagers a little better, they would know enough now not to be out in the road playing in traffic!

I believe I just said that.

TheRedneck




posted on Aug, 14 2020 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: carewemust

Tell them you feared for your life then shoot them.



Works for the police...


Works for me too, started caring in my car when all this started, I hope I don't have but I refuse to become a statistic of being killed by the Socialist nut bags of crap!


What I would do is just drive at like 1 mph through the crowd. This will give the people ample time to get out of the way. They can't stop your vehicle and no one is just gonna stand there and let a car run them over at 1 mile per hour.

If they get hostile and start bashing windows out I would speed it up to about 5-10 mph. Further, if they open my door and enter or reach into my window in an attempt to harm me they will get some hot led.


This guy tried drive respectfully slow through these dangerous protestors blocking the road on July 30th, and got shot by one of them.

kutv.com...

Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 12:50 AM
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carewemust:

Is it Legal to Run Over Protestor Terrorists Who Stand In Your Way?...some will be injured and/or killed 25 seconds later. Would I be brought up on criminal charges for doing that...?


The fact that you ask such a blatant stupid question informs me that your moral compass is entirely twisted. Impeding motorists from leaving a garage is not 'terrorism', your interpretation of the word is wrong on so many levels, it is clear you don't have a stable perspective (and one wonders with this type of posting why ATS has lost its lustre).

Yes, you should be brought up on criminal charges should you purposefully harm another person. The protesters are not bringing 'terror' to the streets, but you would be if you attacked them with your car, simply because you took umbrage at the inconvenience the protesters bring.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: carewemust





Word to the wise, if they get in your way, PEDAL TO THE METAL. Or you could be the next one shot while trying to be nice to terrorists who don't give a damn about you, or your family.



A wise person wouldn't try and drive through a protest.

Your advocating murder.

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posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 01:51 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingSquirrel
a reply to: carewemust

The Judge will ask why you were there and where you were going that was so urgent that it required driving through the crowd. You might need a woman in labor with you, someone dying in need of the emergency room, something like that.


So, you don't think "Officer, I had to go potty", will cut it?



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 02:02 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, August 14, 2020

I came across this video of Portland Protestors, standing in front of a downtown parking garage exit, not letting any of the cars leave last night.

Video Clip:

twitter.com...

As you can see, the drivers want to leave, but the anarchists won't let them.

Personally, I would yell out the window, "I'm coming through in 20 seconds...get out of way or get run over!"

If they hold the position, some will be injured and/or killed 25 seconds later.

Would I be brought up on criminal charges for doing that, if I was in Portland, or any city under a State of Emergency, due to ongoing ANTIFA-BLM terrorism in progress?



Depends on where you live, I guess.

I'd do the same except, if questioned by the police, I'd say something like:

"Gee, I'm really sorry, Officer. I have a sick child/wife/schnauzer at home and I needed to get medicine right away".

Even in liberal cities. the cops and the courts ALWAYS fall for the "sick relative" routine...




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posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 02:37 AM
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If you're life is not in danger, then yes.

If you had the chance to turn around and to go another way, then doubly so.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

When that terrorist ran his car into the protesters in Charlottesville they were walking in a pedestrian mall. While there are points that streets cross, the pedestrians have the right of way.

But how nice to see you trying to justify politically motivated murder.
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posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


When that terrorist ran his car into the protesters in Charlottesville they were walking in a pedestrian mall. While there are points that streets cross, the pedestrians have the right of way.

Of course they do! When did I ever state otherwise?

In a pedestrian mall, pedestrians always have the right of way. There is a common sense duty to allow a vehicle to pass, but they do have the right of way. That's not what is being discussed. Dawnstar brought up Charlottesville, not me.

Do you think the video that started this was filmed in a pedestrian mall? Were these rioters moving back and forth? Or were they actually threatening vehicles and physically using their bodies to block traffic? We used to call this "playing in the street" and actively discouraged it, since it has been shown to get people all dead. I can only assume that people like you need a repeat lesson (or two or twenty thousand) to understand that playing in the street is inherently dangerous. Streets were designed to allow vehicles to move from one place to another. They are not your own personal playground... those are called "parks."


But how nice to see you trying to justify politically motivated murder.

How nice of you to justify idiots threatening others by twisting my words around. Let me quote myself again, in the (vain) hope that someone will actually read what I said before furiously typing away in a politically-induced rage:

Anyone intentionally blocking traffic by playing in the street is either young children with parents who need to be watching them, mentally deficient enough to be in a mental health facility, or Darwin Award contestants.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Ya, I was the one who brought up charlottesville!!
Many of the posters here, when I brought up the fact that most of those who were injured were residents of that area and not all of them had any part in the protest, just said they shouldnt have been out there, as life should just stop when the protestors come to town.

The same story when the video of cops slashing car tires in parking lots and one the streets. All those cars must have belonged to the protestors, heck most were rental cars. Therefore, a justified act!

Now, that someone wants an excuse to go plowing into protestors, you want us to entertain the idea that there are innocent non-participants on the streets! Give me a break!! I've been saying this all along and getting shot down! Ya, there are people in the cars trying to get around thier city and on the streets on foot trying to navigate through the crowds just trying to live their lives. And, you just might plow through a few if you go plowing through the crowd.

And, there is no reason for people to be traveling cross country to protest in cities they probably had to look on a map to figure out where it is located! Stopping that would probably help alot on regaining control.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar


Many of the posters here, when I brought up the fact that most of those who were injured were residents of that area and not all of them had any part in the protest, just said they shouldnt have been out there, as life should just stop when the protestors come to town.

I haven't made many statements on Charlottesville. Believe it or not, I do not accept responsibility for what others think... maybe you do in this binary black-and-white existence we are politely calling "politics," but you might want to leave me out of that ideology. I do not subscribe to it.

I do not know all the details surrounding Charlottesville, and thus I am not going to argue it. Let the law sort it out.


The same story when the video of cops slashing car tires in parking lots and one the streets. All those cars must have belonged to the protestors, heck most were rental cars. Therefore, a justified act!

I never claimed it was justified... I was horrified at the government overreach! Are you sure who you are talking to?


Now, that someone wants an excuse to go plowing into protestors, you want us to entertain the idea that there are innocent non-participants on the streets! Give me a break!! I've been saying this all along and getting shot down! Ya, there are people in the cars trying to get around thier city and on the streets on foot trying to navigate through the crowds just trying to live their lives. And, you just might plow through a few if you go plowing through the crowd.

An excuse? Did you even watch the video? There was a line of cars wanting to leave a parking area, but they could not because the restricted-are entrance was purposely being blocked by a mob of people, some of which were waving weapons! In what universe is that acceptable? I stated what I would have done, and it would have, had the rioters not stood down, resulted in a major loss of life, yes... because I am not going to lay down and stop living because of some bunch of fascist anarchists who think they have some God-given right to make me do so! Try that around me, box this old redneck in with your silly, useless, illegal rioting and YOU MIGHT WAKE UP DEAD. That's the way it works, and I will not apologize for being ready to defend myself if need be.

That is never going to change. There is no argument, no reasoning, no explanation, no law, no government that will convince me to not defend myself, my family, and my property against a bunch of criminals. You seriously need to get that through your head before you help convince some of these thugs otherwise.

If someone is caught in the middle... well, too bad. I feel sorry for them. But the best way to make sure one is not caught in the crossfire is to not be in the middle of a riot! Ever think about that? Maybe, just maybe, if people who are not participating in a riot were to hide, get out, just move to the side, or in some way not be conspicuously a target in a riot, they might not be hurt. That's common sense, something that is apparently far, far too uncommon today.


And, there is no reason for people to be traveling cross country to protest in cities they probably had to look on a map to figure out where it is located! Stopping that would probably help alot on regaining control.

Yes it would. Protesting across state lines should be a Federal felony, punishable by up to 10 tears in a Federal pen. There may be a law against that now, but I don't know where it is off the top of my head.

But no law will ever do one bit of good if those who break it are not arrested on the spot, charged, and convicted if guilty. We have police backing away across the nation and refusing to enforce the laws we already have. In such a situation, it becomes the duty of each citizen to protect themselves as they see fit. If innocent people die because of that, it is the fault of those in charge who told the police to stand down and allowed their jurisdiction to become a third-world war zone.

I will not start a fight, but I will also not refuse to fight when one is brought to me. You want peace? Start thinking about that. Charlottesville is over. You seem to want to revive it.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Yes, I watched the video, yes, there were a few, who were waving something that looked like baseball bats or the like. There were alot that didnt really look violent to me, and then there were those, who outnumbered the bat carriers by the way, that were trying to open up a path for the cars. And, I didnt see anyone get close to the cars,they never entered the garage. I can watch it again, but that is what it seemed to me. I would like to note.... most protests involve street marches. Streets being blocked off, inconvenience to the residents.

So, if people should be hiding during these "riots", why are so many wanting to get out of the parking garage? Some of these "riots", protests, however you want to call them have been happening close to 24/7 for over a month in the same area. And. Ya know what.. even in downtown areas, there are usually apartments above the storefronts. Sooner or later, the occupants are gonna have to venture out. And, they will have to be navigating some on foot to get to that parking garage before they can even think of worrying about how they are gonna drive out. Heck, for some, walking to their destination would be faster.
But, you kind if just proved my point, didnt you? The residents should just be sheltering in place, putting their lives on hold. If they are out on the street, that is their problem, they should know better! So, why would you be in a car, in the middle of the mess again?



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Yes, if you feel your life is in danger. And since a mob always constitutes a deadly threat, you have the right to use deadly force to defend yourself.

Get a lawyer on retainer and decline to speak to alw enforcement "I was in fear for my life. I will sign a complaint against the attacker. I will cooperate fully after I've spoken with counsel. Thank you."



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Like I say, put a dime in it!

And protect your life and your family from those godless monsters



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar


Yes, I watched the video, yes, there were a few, who were waving something that looked like baseball bats or the like. There were alot that didnt really look violent to me, and then there were those, who outnumbered the bat carriers by the way, that were trying to open up a path for the cars.

So if a group of 2000 people showed up in front of your house destroying everything in sight and only 10 were armed, you would be just fine with that?

You are delusional.

It requires one baseball bat to brain someone. One. It's even easier if a mob of unarmed people overpower you first.

If you are participating in a protest and someone shows up waving a baseball bat around, leave. It's no longer a protest. That's what I am saying. If you stay, you are now a rioter.


So, if people should be hiding during these "riots", why are so many wanting to get out of the parking garage? Some of these "riots", protests, however you want to call them have been happening close to 24/7 for over a month in the same area.

NO!

These are not protests. These are riots. Period. That is not even subject to discussion.

If you are so worried about the people who live in these areas (as I am too), do you support defunding the police? Why are you not calling for these rioters to be stopped, at all costs, before innocent people are caught in the crossfire of what has to eventually happen?

I stated during the fiasco known as "CHAZ/CHOP/the Summer of Love" a way to stop this short and put an end once and for all to these ridiculous displays idiocy: Trump should have sent in the US Army and stationed it around the protest area. Allow anyone in that wants to go in, but no one comes out. Anyone who tries to leave should be immediately arrested and transported to the nearest military base for detention until trial. Anyone. If someone throws a rock, points a gun, or freakin' spits in the direction of our troops, they are allowed to open fire. Leave the troops be, and you can stay in your little safe place forever.

That would have resulted in one massacre when the thugs finally decided to risk it. One. But no, that was too cruel to the poor rioters and thugs. Now there's going to be massacres all over the country. I can't stop it; you can't stop it; no mayor or governor can stop it. It is coming, like it or not.


So, why would you be in a car, in the middle of the mess again?

The riots happen around people going about their daily lives, not vice versa. Anyone who intentionally drives into a riot in progress is about as stupid as the rioters playing in the street.

And sooner or later, probably sooner, it's going to get damn bloody.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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Remember the trucker, came over a hill and there they were on the interstate...




So, why would you be in a car, in the middle of the mess again?


Not everyone stays glued to social media, someone leaving for work, or leaving work, or just passing through might not know a bunch of idiots are going to try and block large heavy metal objects with their bodies, and all of a sudden boom there they are and now your stuck and scared.

Last I checked google maps doesnt update for "protestors" walking down the street/highway/interstate.
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posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

if they approach your vehicle with weapons in hand, i would think that justifies as self defense.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 12:59 PM
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Remember the trucker, came over a hill and there they were on the interstate...

Heh, reminds me of something that happened while I was OTR.

I was on, if memory serves, I-20 Westbound in South Carolina somewhere... nice, straight road, light traffic, dry pavement, sun shining, a perfect day to make miles. I'm driving along with the radio singing out some old country tunes, when I notice way up ahead of me there are brake lights. Oh, well, drop her out of cruise and let her slow down, doesn't look like whatever it is is going to be too bad.

As I get closer it starts looking confusing... I see nothing along the road, no flashing lights or smoke or anything like that, but cars are brake checking hard then speeding up. As I get closer I see the problem: some guy is standing in the middle of the Interstate acting like he's either drunk or high or simply lacking neural cohesion. Cars are literally going onto the shoulder to try and avoid the idiot!

Oh, crap... I don't have that kind of agility. By now I realize I am too close for comfort at this speed, so I hit the brakes. About that time the critter pretending to be human sees me and runs toward my braking truck as hard as he can! Now I lock all 18 wheels down trying desperately to not leave a little oily spot on the nice clean asphalt. I stopped shy of messing up the asphalt, but he was literally a few feet from my front bumper when I did.

Now, I would think that any critter who just avoided becoming pavement from a 80,000 pound chunk of metal by a couple of feet would be taken aback a bit... nope, not this dude! He gets all excited and runs for my passenger door! I start the gal moving again and he hops up on my running board, trying to get inside... of course the doors stayed locked at all times when I was driving, so he couldn't. He could have, however, broken out my window and that would have been a very bad thing. So I am not going to stop, but at the same time I am trying to stay at a speed where he can jump down without breaking too many bones. Finally, I guess he took the hint (read: me waving my arms frantically to get the hell off my damn truck!) and jumped down. I slapped the shifter and hit the fuel as hard as I could, watching in the mirror to make sure he doesn't clog up the treads on my trailer tandems with his body (which he didn't, but I was not going to slow down for him either... truck washes are not that expensive).

As soon as I got moving good, he ran toward the next car, who almost wrecked trying to avoid him. I called 911 and let them know, which I found out they already did and had a trooper on the way.

This is the mentality we are dealing with. These critters have totally forgotten that they are made of meat and meat is much, much softer than steel. I fear it will take several of them experiencing what it is like to be dismembered by that steel before they remember to stay out of the damn road.

I really can't believe there are people on this very thread defending their attempts to commit suicide.

TheRedneck



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 01:34 PM
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I'm a land surveyor...that frequently works point --- out in road traffic --- And there is nothing I detest more...is some yahoo vehicle road jockey, who thinks he owns the road --- lock, stock and barrel.



posted on Aug, 15 2020 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

If you are over the age of 18 it is indeed legal to run someone over with your car....as long as you had a good reason for doing so. And as the law is written it's not necessary to state the reason, just that it was a good one. I hope that clears it up.



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