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The original thread was what 10 years ago and I was describing from memory. Sorry if my memory is not as razor sharp as yours !
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
It was never debunked, it was inconclusive. Someone did a good analysis that showed it could be smaller than a hubcap and close to the camera, or up to 60 feet across and correspondingly further away, or anywhere in-between.
originally posted by: devilhunter69
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: devilhunter69
Ohh my god - many thanks - has it been debunked ?
I agreed with that, I couldn't rule out a hubcap, but I couldn't rule out a larger object either. There are hubcaps with raised centers like the two in the back of this photo:
Neither is an exact match but there are many, many different types of hubcaps and I didn't try to search for a closer match.
I never would have guessed this was the photo you meant by the thread title "Triangle or wedge shaped", do you still think that describes it? It's neither triangle shaped not wedge shaped, it's round, roughly hubcap-shaped.
That's pretty much how I see it, except with a flat top instead of rounded top. I'm not seeing any signs the top is rounded like the gif shows. Here's the analysis from p35 of the original thread, showing a flat top:
originally posted by: jeep3r
a reply to: Blue Shift
Maybe you're right but I guess it depends on how much of it is actually not visible due to backlight and exposure. The object might as well have looked something like in the animated GIF below (maybe with a more flattened top):
originally posted by: curious4ufos
My first post here on ATS… this thread just convinced me to register.
I have an extensive photo background and would like to throw some theories your way.
The first level are the trees on the right (#1) with the thickest most defined focus edge and the last level is the hill top on the back with a very thin focus edge (#5).
Edge tells me that: the camera was focused on or near the trees to the right and the object was most probably behind or in front those trees.
If the object was in front of trees #1 it would be very close to the camera and very small, smaller a hubcap I think.
If the object was behind trees #1 then it was not that small (at least a car in length) and it would appear to be closer to trees #3 than to trees #1.
Haze and discoloration…
I sampled a lot of areas in the picture and I'm not getting the same values of density that jritzmann appears to be finding.
The object shows an average black density of 228, the trees below the object have an average black of 230 (very close) but the trees to the right show an average of 239.
So actually, black density is telling me that the object was farther away than the trees #1 and around the same distance as trees #3