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KGB generals talk about aliens

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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Montauk always intrigued me on so many levels. seem to remember it being tied to the Philadelphia Experiment and it essentially opened up a portal briefly that let all sorts of interdimensional loose to create havoc and mayhem. Pretty much didn't it go off the rails at Moutauk and they shut it down but were not sure if they were successful or it was too late. Seem to remember some large creature manifested and destroying the place and it just vanished.

I apologize just going by memory of what Ive read will do some searching for links....


No apologies needed; you are on the money.

My recollection, also going purely off what I've read/heard, was that there was an individual linked to both the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk named Al Bielik. He also did a remarkable interview on C2C with Art Bell.

In the interest of fairness, I have heard many questions and accusations about the authenticity of Mr. Bielik's claims and credentials. That's pretty much standard fare for anybody in this game, though.

There is a grainy black and white photo out there that is allegedly of the creature of which you speak, that was set loose during one of the Montauk experiments. If you look at the photo, and read description from eye witnesses, it bore a resemblance to Sasquatch.


Cool stuff loads of what if, I always try and suspend my disbelief when reading or listening to these topics because I can certainly see our miltary and government doing things that way especially durning war time. Love Coast to Coast used to have a subscription will definitely listen to the interview.

here's a link with a brief breakdown and a small grainy photo of the alledged creature

www.bielek.com...




posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Montauk always intrigued me on so many levels. seem to remember it being tied to the Philadelphia Experiment and it essentially opened up a portal briefly that let all sorts of interdimensional loose to create havoc and mayhem. Pretty much didn't it go off the rails at Moutauk and they shut it down but were not sure if they were successful or it was too late. Seem to remember some large creature manifested and destroying the place and it just vanished.

I apologize just going by memory of what Ive read will do some searching for links....
Pretty much a blow by blow description of the Stranger Things plotline! Lol(if you haven't watched it yet, youre missing one of the best TV series ever made, all 3 seasons are amazing).



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 08:17 AM
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People have weak minds....generally.....they have decayed in many cases to the point that the majority is now impacted in a negative regressive way.

The Gap between progressive Humanity and Regressive Humanity is exponentially growing wider.

People fail to understand that in the so-called developed educated world the majority are brainwashed ..... it begins at birth and doesnt stop until death.

It is bad....really bad....so bad that if something is not done right now not even next year but right now Humanity may be lost.

Our cumulative Group Reality has been intentionally fractured and the truth about how we produce manage and direct it together has been suppressed from us.

No one is talking about the truth....because no one is left untouched by it....there is no possibility of segmented disclosure....we are talking Planetary re-set or nothing....everyone gets an ice cold glass of water thrown in their face @ the same time so the shock has no lagtime as it spreads Globally....we want the shock to be as short and succinct as possible Globally.

Humanity has EXTREME inborn but artificially impeded POTENTIALS that we are not aware of....if we do no learn of and how to harness these potentials we will never direct our own destiny.

Imagine having a conversation with an Angel who is really just a Human like you optimizing its potentials the same ones you are now being denied....how would you feel during that chit-chat?

At first you might think it was cool...until it was explained to you in honesty that Angels are just People like us who have not been geneticlly bastardized....that they live to be hundreds or thousands of years old and that they can use Telepathy and that they are not flying they are Bi-Locating and that all of these things should also be available to us were it not for the fact that we are not NATURAL....we are SCULPTED....sooner or later you would get really mad.....that Angels are People but more Natural People than we are....you would quite quickly DEMAND to have the same abilities the Angels have.

Longevity means no more fiscal rape of a Species,and no more Medical or Pharmacutical Industry.
Telepathy means no more fractured Realities,and no more telecommunicatons Industry.
Bi-Location means no more Transportation or Logistics Industry.

Things are more complicated than they seem.
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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:21 AM
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"I would like to add that according to the official point of view of the Russian Orthodox Church, aliens are demons."

Yee...Christians have Satan and demons, Hitler had lügenpresse, Trump has fake news. I think that all those great people such as Galileo or Copernicus were also demons. What about those nameless geniuses burnt on stake? For christianity anyone and anything that could expose their manipulations and lies is a demonic threat.


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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:38 AM
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What are your thoughts on Algyi Timirnit? Always been fascinated by that story.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Just in case he decides not to translate.
The Russian Orthodox Church did not burn people like the Inquisition. Burning a man is a terrible death that deprives the Soul of the opportunity to rise again in the physical body.

A very good point, much of the church were hypocrites whom killed and harmed going against the very teaching of the Lord himself.

I would disagree on one point about the depriving a man the opportunity to rise in the physical body, Christ said in the resurrection we would have NEW body's, celestial body's or spiritual body's like the angel's.

Also as for ashes and dust, even scattered across the face of the earth the bible has already answered that one in the old testament.

When Ezekiel was given the vision of the valley of dry bones, well dry bones are little more than ashes especially when they have been ground to dust by time, weather and cruel men, burned body's was seen as wrong in ancient times due to the belief in the resurrection of the body BUT when a man died and one of his followers asked if he could go and bury the man whom was known to him Jesus said "let the DEAD bury the DEAD", this flesh is already dead, we must be dead to this world and this world dead to us, we must live in Christ and through Christ.

He did say the body is more than clothing but he also said God is a spirit, in Christ we have the way the only way not our earthly body's though yes many will ascent and be transfigured there earthly body's changed into celestial ones but other's will be raised into there celestial body's with no need to go through that raising of the dust of the earth just to re-cloth us in old wineskin's when we have been made into new wine.

As for these alien's, if they are real and not simply demons masquerading as aliens then they are in for a Shock, God is definitely real and they are trespassing on his creation, they will be gathered up by the angels whom are infinitely greater than they and allotted beside the tares for the lake of fire and the meek not they shall inherit this earth.

Pity them for if this is there plan then they have brought destruction on themselves.

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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

what do you mean by the second sentence?



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Our discussion of the resurrection body regeneration will be ineffective as it concerns different church traditions. The position of the ROC is based on the decisions of the Ecumenical Councils, in particular the Council of Nicaea from the 4th century. Your position is on the Reformation. The fact is that the Orthodox Church, unlike the Catholic, did not burn people, did not execute witches, and so on. There were isolated exceptions characterizing the ruling individual Lords. These are open facts.

About demons. Everyone has their own personal experience. As long as a person does not rise above the endless crowd, demons are not interested in him. So, play with him. Demons need to be respected, but not allowed to come near. But in each of us at different times lived from small devils to serious devils. It all depends on the spiritual level of the person. One petty demon is enough to destroy. A legion pounces on others. And he opposes them. Everything is individual here.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: putnam6




it essentially opened up a portal briefly that let all sorts of interdimensional loose to create havoc and mayhem.


Yeah... the Upsidedown.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: StratosFear
What are your thoughts on Algyi Timirnit? Always been fascinated by that story.


I'm not in the subject, sorry. Russian Siberia is huge. There are many abnormal places. I have not dealt with these issues, sorry.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: jedi_hamster
a reply to: RussianTroll

what do you mean by the second sentence?


Sorry, I do not understand what you are talking about. Specify, please.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:31 AM
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I always wondered why the two traditions the oldest Syriac orthodoxy and the later Greek/Roman orthodoxy fell out with one another (and of course later the Western and Eastern (orthodox) Catholic Church's split, such small differences given that we all accept Christ as our king and lord should not divide us, too much Christian blood has been spilled by misguided men on both sides of that divide no where more heinously than between the Orthodox and Catholics of the former Yugoslavian federation, during the second world war it was so bad that the pro Nazi Croat militia whom would even take small children and tell them to make the sign of the cross, if they did it the Catholic or Croat way they would live and if they did it the Orthodox way they would slit the child's throat, since they were actually the same identical people race and ancestry other than there split along a border demarked by a river when the Church underwent it's schism they could not tell any other way if they were Croat or Serb children.

Story's such as this inhumanity are harrowing to hear about, the cruelty sadly went both way's.

Being western European I am not from this tradition of hatred and have never held any animosity toward the Orthodoxy, your churches (especially the Greek Orthodox) are extremely beautiful, miracle happen as frequently among the Orthodox believers than even among the most devout Catholic believers but God seems to love his children equally, both church's have a tradition of icon's crying tears, holy oil and even blood sometimes sweating from icon's of Jesus, both have saint's accepted by both church's though most of those predate the schism.

Take this Catholic Icon, it is a mysterious one and also remember the Shroud of Turin was probably held in Constantinople by the Orthodox Church until the last Crusade - an evil crusade since it was a perverted crusade for wealth and not for faith, when the western knights whom were supposed to be aiding Constantinople instead sacked it Because the Doges of Venice had blackmailed the leaders of this final and damned crusade to instead of attempting to take back Jerusalem which was there original intent instead to attack Constantinople for control of the Bosporus straits which Venice coveted - money, power and greed and not for God.

This image of the image of Guadeloupe is more like a photograph, the material it is made of is basically a cactus cloth, a type of paper fabric that should have rotted away but it has survived over 400 years without rotting, it also survived a bomb in the alter before it, the alter a solid stone alter was blown to pieces but not one person in the crowded cathedral was harmed and the image was completely intact despite being right over the alter.


Recently an analysis of the stars on the cloak which also appear to be the exact image of the sky on the night the image appeared are also an encoding of musical notes.
This is as close as the music can be rendered when converted from the star pattern on the Tilma (Cactus cloth Cloak) into musical notes.


Then there are the apparitions of our Lady at Zeitoun over an Egyptian Orthodox Church, she appeared to both Christian and Muslim witness and bowed before the Cross to tell them to pray to Jesus, healed a blind Muslim man and perhaps averted a blood massacre of Christians in Egypt since many of those that saw her and those that are there children joined hand's to protect the Christians and there church from Islamic militant attack's.

All around the world there are community's of Christians that protect Muslim's and Muslim's that protect there Christian neighbours but all we ever hear about is the bad stuff that goes on because it is what makes the news.

They are also God's children, he will sort the chaff from the wheat and we can only hope we go into the barn not the fire.

This appeared after a massacre of Christians in Egypt


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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: RussianTroll

I always wondered why the two traditions the oldest Syriac orthodoxy and the later Greek/Roman orthodoxy fell out with one another, such small differences given that we all accept Christ as our king and lord should not divide us, too much Christian blood has been spilled by misguided men on both sides of that divide no where more heinously than between the Orthodox and Catholics of the former Yugoslavian federation, during the second world war it was so bad that the pro Nazi Croat militia whom would even take small children and tell them to make the sign of the cross, if they did it the Catholic or Croat way they would live and if they did it the Orthodox way they would slit the child's throat, since they were actually the same identical people race and ancestry other than there split along a border demarked by a river when the Church underwent it's schism they could not tell any other way if they were Croat or Serb children.

Story's such as this inhumanity are harrowing to hear about, the cruelty sadly went both way's.

Being western European I am not from this tradition of hatred and have never held any animosity toward the Orthodoxy, your churches (especially the Greek Orthodox) are extremely beautiful, miracle happen as frequently among the Orthodox believers than even among the most devout Catholic believers but God seems to love his children equally, both church's have a tradition of icon's crying tears, holy oil and even blood sometimes sweating from icon's of Jesus, both have saint's accepted by both church's though most of those predate the schism.

Take this Catholic Icon, it is a mysterious one and also remember the Shroud of Turin was probably held in Constantinople by the Orthodox Church until the last Crusade - an evil crusade since it was a perverted crusade for wealth and not for faith, when the western knights whom were supposed to be aiding Constantinople instead sacked it Because the Doges of Venice had blackmailed the leaders of this final and damned crusade to instead of attempting to take back Jerusalem which was there original intent instead to attack Constantinople for control of the Bosporus straits which Venice coveted - money, power and greed and not for God.

This image of the image of Guadeloupe is more like a photograph, the material it is made of is basically a cactus cloth, a type of paper fabric that should have rotted away but it has survived over 400 years without rotting, it also survived a bomb in the alter before it, the alter a solid stone alter was blown to pieces but not one person in the crowded cathedral was harmed and the image was completely intact despite being right over the alter.


Recently an analysis of the stars on the cloak which also appear to be the exact image of the sky on the night the image appeared are also an encoding of musical notes.
This is as close as the music can be rendered when converted from the star pattern on the Tilma (Cactus cloth Cloak) into musical notes.


Then there are the apparitions of our Lady at Zeitoun over an Egyptian Orthodox Church, she appeared to both Christian and Muslim witness and bowed before the Cross to tell them to pray to Jesus, healed a blind Muslim man and perhaps averted a blood massacre of Christians in Egypt since many of those that saw her and those that are there children joined hand's to protect the Christians and there church from Islamic militant attack's.

All around the world there are community's of Christians that protect Muslim's and Muslim's that protect there Christian neighbours but all we ever hear about is the bad stuff that goes on because it is what makes the news.

They are also God's children, he will sort the chaff from the wheat and we can only hope we go into the barn not the fire.

This appeared after a massacre of Christians in Egypt



At one time, the Roman Catholic Church went into schism and broke away from world Orthodoxy. Just watch the Articles of Faith and the Lord's Prayer in both concessions. And you will understand the fundamental difference. Plus "Filioque".

World Orthodoxy and the Roman Catholic Church were sister churches until the 2nd Catholic Council in 1962. At the Council, the RCC was finally Judaized, and now we can only talk about communication at the level of the foreign ministers of the Churches.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:49 AM
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I have been looking into studying the Aramaic version of Our Lord's prayer and it differs quite a bit.

Our Beloved Father whom is EVERYWHERE.

Holy and beloved be your name.

Your Kingdom Come may your will be done on earth as perfectly as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespass and help us to forgive those that trespass against us.

Do not let us enter into Temptation (a father does not give his children poison so God does not tempt us) but deliver us from Evil (the evil is another point since Aramaic the word used can be used to denote failure, our flaws, the flaws of others and evil in general).

www.youtube.com...





There is another miracle image in South America but is not as obviously spectacular as our lady of Guadeloupe is and also not popular with Mason's since this one has prophecy's against and condemnation of them.

Unlike our lady of Guadeloupe which appeared after an apparition of the virgin whom touched the cloak of Huan Diego herself when she arranged the roses for a sign for the bishop within it this was said to be started by human hands and completed by angels.

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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:52 AM
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Am I correct in assuming...that the Christian, Russian Orthodox Church is a racist organization, because it "compares" ET aliens to demons"?


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posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:55 AM
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Then you would be adding me into that, not all ET's since Christ himself is NOT of this earth and this earth rejected him though he OWNS it but more accurately Demons have long been known to masquerade as angel's and other such things.

In western demonology, Succubi and Incubi - ET abduction and probes and alien hybrids - Changelings etc.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 11:56 AM
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Absolutely correct, we are flawed and our interpretation of much is also only as we are allowed to understand or others tell us but as this language teacher whom is trying to explain the prayer is like a mini gospel it contains so much that has been lost on the western languages.



posted on Aug, 4 2020 @ 12:06 PM
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While the theological debate is very interesting, is no-one questioning why this alleged Russian general doesn't actually exist outside the pages of conspiracy websites?

This page does, google will translate it for you:

www.liveinternet.ru...

Nobody able to entertain the idea that it's completely fake?




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