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Another ufo researcher bites the dust

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posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 05:07 AM
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originally posted by: UltimaRatio1
Calm down, Rich. Nobody claims you are a bad or evil person. a reply to: Jay-morris



What?




posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: Jay-morris

He is a conman. Care to address the claims posted on pages 1-2-3 instead of throwing the ball outside the stadium?

Roswell slides, that deathbed geezer, ufo on the moon, villages on the moon, that eisenhower meeting too,2 blog posts by sheaffer, multiple other posts by members here. Or tell us if you are Richard Dolan so we stop spilling pointless e-ink.

Lets address the above claims by Dolan


You are not listening. Even oberg said he never detected any indication he's not sincere and genuinely enthusiastic.

You are clearly missing my point. Making mistakes does not make you a conman. Making mistakes does not mean you are doing this for money.

You have yet to provide any e hence that he is a conman, and just into this subject for money. You just keep repeating the same old thing, over and over again.

I don't agree with everything Dolan does, but it's obvious that he is dedicated to tbe subject and wants to get to the bottom of it.

I guess staton friedman dedicated most of his life to this subject, just to con people and make loads of money?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 06:04 AM
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originally posted by: JimOberg
Why doesn't any of his defenders want to defend any of the claims he's made that have been shown to be bogus?


Because they understand he is a human being and as such he makes mistakes, can be duped and get"s things wrong.

Most people understand that. They even expect that from a 30 year very public career into this very difficult and elusive subject.

What they don’t think is that it somehow makes him evil or a con man.



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: Sublant


No one is calling names or taking potshots as you put it. Evidence have been presented and haven't been refuted. Me,Oberg,Sheaffer,carddown and others have provided facts.


Really? Have you read any of your own or mm's posts?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Jay-morris




Is he all doing this for money? The evidence does not point to that

So, he has a day job?


He could have made more money in some other field? With much less ridicule and personal attacks and much more reputable career paths and job security.

Just look at ATS "Aliens and UFOs" subforum and see how every single one who tries to research and talk publicly about this subject is always and constantly ridiculed and attacked. Their persona, looks, integrity, even their friggin wives attacked because they dared to look into this subject.



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: Sublant

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Jay-morris




Is he all doing this for money? The evidence does not point to that

So, he has a day job?


He could have made more money in some other field? With much less ridicule and personal attacks and much more reputable career paths and job security.

Just look at ATS "Aliens and UFOs" subforum and see how every single one who tries to research and talk publicly about this subject is always and constantly ridiculed and attacked. Their persona, looks, integrity, even their friggin wives attacked because they dared to look into this subject.


One good thing about all of that is that it exposes these defamers and LIARS for exactly what they really are. Presenting themselves under a false shroud of integrity, they even make up their own reality and call them facts. Straight out of the horses mouths say in the Walton case we have witnesses who passed multiple lie detector tests say point blank that Phillip Klass tried to bribe them to betray the other's testimony, and then on this thread the liars come out and attempt to debunk that verified fact.

It is really quite amazing the intellectual dishonesty and the outright creation of personal fantasy by them being invested in something that has no real bearing on their personal lives one way or another. It really is disgusting, but I pity them since they are really only damaging their own souls. (They don't believe they even have one).



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: johnthejedi24
a reply to: CardDown
Know where I can find a higher resolution version of the image so we all can see for ourselves that it’s a yardstick? Because I can’t find it on that libraries web site.


Try this one which allows a simulation of the stereoscopic 3-D view.
NY Public Library Digital Collections: Frost Architecture



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Sublant

Sometime's a change of hobby can be beneficial.


edit on 3-8-2020 by Baablacksheep because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: Sublant

Yes i have. There is nothing wrong with our posts. I have also seen that you have been active in both of MMs threads heavily



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: Sublant

Yes i have. There is nothing wrong with our posts. I have also seen that you have been active in both of MMs threads heavily


There is plenty wrong, but yes, you've made it clear you can't see it.
Indeed I dont like the constant personal attacks on people who's only crime is to be interested in the phenomenon.

Who the heck attacks people for their appearance? Who they are married to? How they speak or what kind of clothes someone wears?

And why would anyone over the age of ten support or take part in that?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: charlyv

The claim was that Dolan doesn't do it for the money.

Not sure what your point is.



He may not do it for the money, but the question was does he have a job.
Irregardless if he says he does not do it for the money, he makes money on books and lectures.
That is a job.



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: CardDown

originally posted by: johnthejedi24
a reply to: CardDown
Know where I can find a higher resolution version of the image so we all can see for ourselves that it’s a yardstick? Because I can’t find it on that libraries web site.


Try this one which allows a simulation of the stereoscopic 3-D view.
NY Public Library Digital Collections: Frost Architecture


Unfortunately Dolan was on a recent episode of Unexplained(William Shatner as host) using this as an early first picture that is still a mystery



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: Jay-morris

He is a conman. Care to address the claims posted on pages 1-2-3 instead of throwing the ball outside the stadium?

Roswell slides, that deathbed geezer, ufo on the moon, villages on the moon, that eisenhower meeting too,2 blog posts by sheaffer, multiple other posts by members here. Or tell us if you are Richard Dolan so we stop spilling pointless e-ink.

Lets address the above claims by Dolan


You are not listening. Even oberg said he never detected any indication he's not sincere and genuinely enthusiastic.

You are clearly missing my point. Making mistakes does not make you a conman. Making mistakes does not mean you are doing this for money.

Has Dolan written anything retracting some of the egregious "mistakes" he's made? Graham Hancock somewhat rehabilitated himself by doing a little bit of that. Hancock's still a con, but at least he's more subtle about it now. What has Dolan done to repair his shredded reputation?

See, if you're a real researcher - true believer or not - you find out things. If people on ATS can find out certain of Dolan's claims are bogus, then Dolan (assuming he actually IS a "real" researcher) should have already found that he'd made a bogus claim. If he then repeats that claim, then yes, he most certainly IS a con man. What else could you possibly call such behavior? How much he cares about the field and the depth of his belief and dedication to it don't even enter into that equation.

Harte



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: Harte


Has Dolan written anything retracting some of the egregious "mistakes" he's made? 


I don't know, has he? I am sure if someone who it up, he would not shy away from the mistakes he has made. But people insulting him, calling his wife a bimbo, is not good, unless you think that is ok?

Hancock is do obviously not a con! Seriously, people need to stop labelling people as con artists, only doing it for money, snake oil salesman, when that is clearly not the case.

The skeptics on this thread are not coming out of this looking great!


See, if you're a real researcher - true believer or not - you find out things. If people on ATS can find out certain of Dolan's claims are bogus, then Dolan (assuming he actually IS a "real" researcher) should have already found that he'd made a bogus claim.


Have you contacted him go ask him yourself? Are you certain he has not spoken about the mistakes he has made? Or are you bashing him for the sake of it?

Again, after all these posts, still no evidence thst he is a con man.

Sigh!


What else could you possibly call such behavior? How much he cares about the field and the depth of his belief and dedication to it don't even enter into that equation.


All i have seen on here are insult towards him and his wife. I know this is normal when it comes to fanatical skeptics, but still no evidence that he is a conman.

What qualifies for you that someone is lying, and only doing it for money? Let's take Stanton Friedman. He believe that a Alien craft crashed at Roswell, and skeptics do not. Does thst mean Stan was lying and just a con man becsuse he dies not hold the view the mainstream was holding?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: Sublant

Too bad Trump supporters don't get the same level of scrutiny.



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: IMSAM

Ho,ho..hold your horses...I do not know why you decided to mount this attack on Dolan but I think you miss read Richard Dolan completely. He is above all things a historian and not someone who comes with claims. People come to him with their stories and he will investigate, write and talk about these people and their stories. And it is sometimes difficult to seperate the liers from those who tell the truth.. and some people are such convincing liers that he believes them....like you and I would believe a good lier. If Dolan made a poor judgement I will not hold it against him.

I do not know Dolan or his lovely wife but from the many interviews I have heared I am convinced that the things he does in the ufo field are sincere and is not trying to sell a good lie. And I am sure he will admid that with many UFO cases he believes they are true but never will know for certain.




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posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: zatara

No i dont mount an attack. I stated some facts that show that he is coning people. Now you claim that he is a historian that is cataloguing ufo stories is that correct? How does it reconcile with this

"Richard Dolan is one of the world’s leading researchers and writers on the subject of UFOs and believes that they constitute the greatest mystery of our time.”

If he is a researcher how did all these cases escape him?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
Oh and his bimbo of a wife doesn't help his cause either.


Very shameful of you Mirageman. I think you owe Richard Dolan and his wife an apology.
Have a wonderful day everyone and lets try to be more respectful and positive.



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: IMSAM


No i dont mount an attack. I stated some facts that show that he is coning people.


You have posted no evidence at all that he is coning people, so why do you keep on saying that?



posted on Aug, 3 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: zatara




And it is sometimes difficult to seperate the liers from those who tell the truth..


Isn't that sort of his job?

Did he ever meet a UFO story he didn't like?



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