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Aamon Bundy Supports The Average BLM Member And Defunding Police

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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 08:07 PM
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In a Facebook video Aamon Bundy came out in support of the average BLM supporter, and in support of defunding the police. This caused a huge uproar among those viewing the video judging by the comments. Of course he does not support any organization but he does feel there is common ground and they are not the enemy.

He certainly is not going to become liberal or anything but he really upset a lot of people. To me it's a given he would support defunding the police, but as noted in the article it does not appear he would want that money allocated to other programs.



If you only see BLM people as the enemy, then you’re getting played. And BLM people are getting played BIG TIME. The vast majority of BLM supporters don’t want socialism and communism and all of that. Yes, I am not ignorant, I understand what the BLM organization represents, who runs it, who finances it, and what their goal is. I am fully aware of that. But the average person who wears a BLM shirt and comes to a rally just wants black people to be able to be safe and not have fear that police officers are going to abuse them. You have to be smart enough to make a distinction between the national organization of the BLM and the average BLM supporter who is ignorant to what the organization is really all about. If you can’t make that distinction, then you’re just as ignorant as they are.




Now, lets talk about the average BLM supporter for just a second. Whether their feelings are warranted or not is not the point at the moment. The point is that their desire to be free in America without being abused or tyrannized by a police force because of the color of their skin is something that I can agree with! I personally have been abused by police. My family has been abused by police. My brother was shot by police. My friend was killed by police. Thousands of Americans have been abused by police. And I’m talking about innocent people! Why is it so hard for us to unify around this cause?


I tried to find a link that is not just to Facebook, although the video is included in the article.
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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

I think his heart is in the right place but his aim is too low. Where is the defund congress movement? Thats who makes all these opressive laws in the first place. Most people cannot make it from their bed to their car to get to work without breaking a law. Did ya take an SSRI or drink a bunch of caffeine? Driving under the influence. I went to the Drake law library a few years back. There is an entire room of law books just about tax law and the IRS. The only law we should be passing right now is that for every law passed 5 need to come off the books.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE YOUR RIGHTS; YOUR RIGHTS CAN ONLY BE RESTRICTED.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 08:34 PM
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. The point is that their desire to be free in America without being abused or tyrannized by a police force because of the color of their skin is something that I can agree with!


it's quite simple to achieve that .
don't resist , don't run , don't hit the cop , don't try and steal his gun , don't be rude . and if you have time ....


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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 08:39 PM
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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

This was not on my 2020 bingo.

I listened to some of what he had to say and while I don't agree with everything he had to say. He maade some very good points.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: seedofchucky

Even when you lay there on the ground and are clearly not a threat they are liable to kill you. This is why people are protesting.




posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: grey580
Lol Even with everything that has happened this year, I don't think any us have half the stuff on our bingo cards that is actually going on.

I came across the article and rembered all the ATS interest in Aamon Bundy. I don't think he's changed at all, but think a lot of people have and his way of thinking does not fit with the way people have changed to "well it is right if this person does it ,but because I don't like these people then I am against them doing it" kind of belief. Which is why all of those people who responded to his video were so upset



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: seedofchucky

Even when you lay there on the ground and are clearly not a threat they are liable to kill you. This is why people are protesting.





The sad part is, with situations like this, there's never a shortage of people who will dig & dig until they find some unrelated negative incident or criminal charge in the victim's past and use that to 'justify' why he deserved it.

Whenever a controversial police killing comes around, people are all over the victims past but never even think of looking into the responsible officer's past. Many Americans have an almost instinctive tendency to side with the police by default, it's sad.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 09:58 PM
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Aledda was found guilty by a jury of culpable negligence.


that's not good enough . i agree. But i read the report hardly a motive. looks like he got trigger happy. Not seeing any other movie.
whatever happened in that video , i agree cop should be charged. But these are rare. 99 percent will go off without a hitch if they followed those 4 basic rules.

so rare compared to doctors say. 250k malpractice deaths a year.


again 99 percent will go off without a issue had 4 steps been followed.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: bigsnowman

that's not true. Majority of ppl will side with victim. Just like they dd with george floyd. Nobody i know tried to justify the cop . Problem was with george , he was as innocent as this fella . I fully blame cop on that one. the guy was pure victim. Cop got trigger happy , there isn't a negative intent . I think cop should've got harsher sentence .

But again these are rare events. RARE.
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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: frogs453

I think his heart is in the right place but his aim is too low. Where is the defund congress movement? Thats who makes all these opressive laws in the first place. Most people cannot make it from their bed to their car to get to work without breaking a law. Did ya take an SSRI or drink a bunch of caffeine? Driving under the influence. I went to the Drake law library a few years back. There is an entire room of law books just about tax law and the IRS. The only law we should be passing right now is that for every law passed 5 need to come off the books.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE YOUR RIGHTS; YOUR RIGHTS CAN ONLY BE RESTRICTED.


Hear hear!!



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 04:06 AM
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a reply to: frogs453

I'm not surprised. I wouldn't expect any more or less of Ammon... especially after the hell his family and friends have been put through by authorities...

He knows better than anyone the difference between how his non-violent occupation of an empty wildlife refuge was handled and how these Antifa takeovers have been handled.

It's a good lesson for those protesting the police now, but couldn't be bothered to support the Bundys or the Hammonds then... they were just a bunch of privileged crazy White cowboys...



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with you on that. We all know it's about how things are portrayed or who has the loudest voice on a subject. People should have really looked at what was occurring with the Bundy's. They should also look at the protests in a lot of states daily that are non violent. The bigger powers like us to remain distracted and divided while the government looks out for its own interests and people. Both parties.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with you on that. We all know it's about how things are portrayed or who has the loudest voice on a subject. People should have really looked at what was occurring with the Bundy's.


Yes! The abuses by Federal agencies and agents was well known and well documented long before the Bundy's raised hell about it. There were two Congressional hearings held on the matter in 2013:

THREATS, INTIMIDATION AND BULLYING BY FEDERAL LAND MANAGING AGENCIES

THREATS, INTIMIDATION AND BULLYING BY FEDERAL LAND MANAGING AGENCIES, PART II

Of course we all now have the benefit of hindsight, but it's a crying shame that more people didn't equate the abuse of Federal power with the abuse of local power, and join efforts to focus on fighting abuse of power by ALL authorities.


They should also look at the protests in a lot of states daily that are non violent. The bigger powers like us to remain distracted and divided while the government looks out for its own interests and people. Both parties.


Agreed again, the vast majority of protests and protesters are peaceful but determined. The troublemakers come out under cover of darkness like the roaches they are.

But we're still missing the greater point. Abuse of power is wrong no matter which agency the abuser works for, and no matter what color the victim is. We are still focusing on the person/people affected, and not those abusing their power. And how it is abused.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: frogs453

Why is it so hard for us to unify around this cause?


Because people are too busy being partisan hacks and looking to score points at the 'other side's' expense. Because people saying, "I want police reform", immediately gets the argument to absurdity response of, "Duuuur. You hates dah cops. You want to see me and my family raped until we iz dead. Duuuuurr".



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: seedofchucky

There are still many instances of police abusing their power and bad things happening.

It's easy to say it's as simple as 1,2,3 if you never had a bad experience with police.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: grey580

You have a greater chance to be struck by lightning and caught up in a terrorist suicidal bombing in the same day as you do getting shot by police in the scenario you mentioned. I might as well start burning down every Wendy's I see because of the time they charged me twice for my meal a few years back.

People these days.... SMDH



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: bigsnowman

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: seedofchucky

Even when you lay there on the ground and are clearly not a threat they are liable to kill you. This is why people are protesting.





The sad part is, with situations like this, there's never a shortage of people who will dig & dig until they find some unrelated negative incident or criminal charge in the victim's past and use that to 'justify' why he deserved it.

Whenever a controversial police killing comes around, people are all over the victims past but never even think of looking into the responsible officer's past. Many Americans have an almost instinctive tendency to side with the police by default, it's sad.


It's even sadder that 8-10 years ago the people spearheading citizen rights and police brutality seemed to be the right and alt-right. Like the infowars (alex jones') website.

Now police brutality and civil rights has become a leftist thing. Now the right has to think against the left and follow the herd.
"All the protesters are terrorists!" "Blue lives matter"

Im starting to think many people 's ethics and morals rest on the whims of politics.
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posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: blueman12

originally posted by: bigsnowman

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: seedofchucky

Even when you lay there on the ground and are clearly not a threat they are liable to kill you. This is why people are protesting.





The sad part is, with situations like this, there's never a shortage of people who will dig & dig until they find some unrelated negative incident or criminal charge in the victim's past and use that to 'justify' why he deserved it.

Whenever a controversial police killing comes around, people are all over the victims past but never even think of looking into the responsible officer's past. Many Americans have an almost instinctive tendency to side with the police by default, it's sad.


It's even sadder that 8-10 years ago the people spearheading citizen rights and police brutality seemed to be the right and alt-right. Like the infowars (alex jones') website.

Now police brutality and civil rights has become a leftist thing and the right. Now the right has to think against the left and follow trump's lead.
"All the protesters are terrorists!" "Blue lives matter"

Im starting to think many people 's ethics and morals rest on the whims of politics.


When we say all lives matter, we're talking about all citizens. Citizens rights. bLM lowers this down to a skin color thing. Maybe if they weren't excluding the 88% of the country that they're targeting then this could have a different outcome. bLM has raised over a billion dollars and has yet to help a poor black family or neighborhood. They've bought huge charter buses and have their own plaza though. Why should anyone support them?



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: seedofchucky

I've seen too many videos that leads me to believe that 99% number isn't accurate.

Cops consistently lie. I follow some 1st amendment auditors and you see what they deal with. The cops are more often than not caught behaving like thugs and tyrants. It needs to stop.



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