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When Will the U.S.A. Formally Split?

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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 05:43 PM
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Trump winning staved this off, and the two appointments of judges, but if the Democrats win and start implementing national policies on states that really don't agree, and get forced by a SCOTUS interpretation of the law for example a national gun control law implementation in states that have had little to no gun control and like it that way, then you may see a national compact of states develop not strictly geographic but one that is ideological.
The point of contention we(the states) do not agree with the "new" interpretation or disregard for the American constitution, therefor as a group we want to go our own way and adhere to it as it has been interpreted for over the last 200 years.

If you had a dozen states do this, and the military sided with them, based on "THEIR" interpretation of the constitution the union would be broken. I highly doubt it would ever come to that, but if the democrats continue to give into the 5% left wing lunatics, it might, why do you think Biden won the primary, even the core Democrats realize what is just too far even for them.




posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Listen, for all our difference in retoric, your nation will be just fine, it's as if the centuries begin this way, and even out half-way through.

Civil war is stupid JBurns, it serves no other purpose than to promote even more division.

We/you are blindfolded, we just need to learn to see further than the forest from the trees.

There has to be some glimer of light at the end of the tunnel.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I certainly hope cooler heads prevail.

And I'm apt to believe that they will.

What other choice than the democratic option is avalable?

"People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people." Alan Moore.

Who is it that's getting black bagged off the street?

The people.

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posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Atsbhct

It's not a split among states..
It's a split between urban and rural.

And it's not going to split.


No it won’t - but if SHTF the urbanites likely won’t emerge victorious.

The only real problem there is we’ll be weakened in ability to repel an outside threat.

China would strike, shred the lefties on the west coast as they’re poopIng their pants because the people they thought were bad, who can help handle the Chinese problem, went East. Chinese could make it to about the Central Valley in CA and the Cascades in NorCal and the PNW.

Then we have to regroup and take the land back.

Which we would accomplish.

No, this isn’t some doom porn rant or keyboard worrioring (yep, it’s a verb now) - it’s a legitimate potential outcome in today’s climate likely more so than at any point since the civil war.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Atsbhct

Unfortunately, there is no legal mechanism for the US to split up. It very definitely should be split up, but theres no legal path forward to provide for that. Whats more likely to happen as things stand going forward is the US will be taken over by the CCP which appears to be ever more in control of the Democrat party.


No.

And if you think so, leave.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 04:16 AM
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This has happened before just not in this level.

These people like BLM, LGBTQ, antifa and Democrats want their own rules own space.

They fight fight fight for this almost to a point where they segregate themselves from eveyone else.

And when they get what they want, their own space . They learn that Their policies and way of life do not create a successful place.

So eventually they want from eveyone else.

Then they start comparing that they are segregated.

They are just really unintelligent people



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 06:16 AM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Atsbhct

It's not a split among states..
It's a split between urban and rural.

And it's not going to split.


Huh? A split between urban and rural? How do you figure that??


How can you NOT figure that?

Seriously.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Atsbhct
Not soon enough. You Trump guys are crazy and it would be good for us normal folk to now have to deal with.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Andy, you don't know how much I hope you're right on that.


There has to be some glimer of light at the end of the tunnel.


I can toast to that



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: scauma
Not soon enough. You Trump guys are crazy and it would be good for us normal folk to now have to deal with.


I like that you think the Original Poster, who is a Canadian Woman, is a 'Trump guy'.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 01:50 PM
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posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 03:53 PM
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It never will, because the Federal government along with the US military will fight a war against even citizens if they try to secede from the union.

The majority of America's power comes from it's sheer size and access to many different geographies and resources. That is all due to the manifest destiny and they will not allow themselves to lose it for any reason.



posted on Jul, 31 2020 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: themessengernevermatters

Manifest destiny my arse they stole it from the 50+ million native Americans that lived on the continent before Europeans landed on there nut like a 10-ton weight.


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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

50 million?? Holy cow...... if a few boatloads of people can defeat 50 million, they deserved to lose it. ( the entire Indian populations was around 1 million not 50)

Truth ism if the indians were left alone, if the hispanic countries were left alone....... everyone would be demanding they get removed.

Imagine a world were people were tossing kids into volcanoes to make it rain and all of us saying nothing but,,, oh how quaint.
Indians were brutal savages and if they were allowed to do what they please... you yourself would be demanding someone put a stop to it



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 04:42 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Atsbhct

Hmmm.... Let's see how that would work out.


I bet that if the actual red and blue votes for each county were mixed that map would be a pretty solid purple with a few indigo and tyrian spots (a little more blue and a little more red, respectively).


Ya. That's the old fake news "impeach this" map. Here's the reality.



And splitting the U.S, in two? I'd vote for that. Providing we also split all federal assets.

This one looks good.



Of course some of us would have to move, but small price to pay for some sanity.




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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: Zimnydran

A few boatloads of people who carried with them disease that the indigenous populace had no immunity.

Who also carried with them cannon/gunpowder and tempered steel weaponry, a few boatloads that would never stop.

How many people throughout recorded history have died in the name of the Christian God?

And where/when did the Indian populations toss kids into volcanoes?

Certainly a lot of human sacrifices, then again since we have little left around regarding there recorded history down the actions of Spain/Portugal, and others destruction of there culture, how the hell can you really tell what they got up to?

We are the brutal savages I'm afraid, always have been always will be.

The poor sods thought our arrival heralded the return of Quetzalcoatl, and look how that turned out for them?


The colonization of the Americas is what it is, there is little point in painting it as something it was not, that being in any way fair to the people already living there.
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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 11:35 AM
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It was about what was fair to us, known as manifest destiny.

I don't personally feel bad for doing what we had to do to form a country. Every other country was formed through conquest.

The fact we were able to do it yet then turned around and founded what became the example of individual rights and government free liberties has shown it was worth it

After all, the founders of the US were superior to the Spanish, the native North Americans, the British Army and imperial Japan/Hitler's army, the USSR and red China. All those tried to topple us as top dog and every last one FAILED because they're failures

Their warrior class was insufficient compared to a free people fighting for their destiny for God and country

Take that white guilt elsewhere please
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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Superior, but with the same bankers, and harboring the same racist value systems, that came in tow with European immigrants.

Oh aye, a far ""Superior"" type of bastard indeed.

Same crap slightly different wrapping paper, and it does not make it right.

Nothing to do with guilt, just a statement of fact, and nothing to do with manifest destiny whatsoever, just plain old nation and empire-building.
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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 01:24 PM
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I suspect that after the last of the baby boomer generation are gone it will correct itself, if we can last that long

If it doesn't then I'd say the split will be around 2050 if a war, asteroid, alien attack, or rapture doesn't happen first



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: 3sixand9

The fact that there are still people around in this day of age that actually entertain the notion of rapture.

Or anything, or anyone, coming to save them, other than themselves is half the problem really.
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