Governor of AZ Extends Executive Orders - Will There be Another Nationwide Lockdown?

But, with all this — he made masks — Your Choice.

a reply to: KKLOCO

They will be extending the lockdowns into next year and beyond when Trump wins.
If Biden is somehow able to steal it, the lockdowns will end by Christmas or before.
Just sayin.

originally posted by: Annee
But, with all this — he made masks — Your Choice.

Where? As far as I’ve seen, masks are mandatory statewide.

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: KKLOCO

They will be extending the lockdowns into next year and beyond when Trump wins.
If Biden is somehow able to steal it, the lockdowns will end by Christmas or before.
Just sayin.

Whether it’s either of those time frames, there will be no economy to return to.....

If people don’t wake up and start opposing this draconian crap, we will be doomed forever.

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: Annee
But, with all this — he made masks — Your Choice.

Where? As far as I’ve seen, masks are mandatory statewide.

To be fair — I did not research multiple news reports.

But even as he urged people to stay home and practice safe hygiene, Ducey declined to require the use of masks statewide, instead unveiling an advertising campaign, “Tougher than COVID,” that urges people to wear masks voluntarily.

cronkitenews.azpbs.org...

originally posted by: vonclod
I imagine if people wore masks when applicable, this might not be happening. It's up to everyone.. how this plays out. Since many will not bear it..well, enjoy your lockdown.

It's just my opinion, not interested in debating effectiveness.

Bullhockey, if this was half as bad as claimed, the rioters/protests/loser gatherings would be rife with walking dead and ever-decreasing numbers of participants from the oh-so-scary death rate.

They.
Aren't.

The claims don't hold up to snuff when we factor in the mass gatherings via civil unrest. Unless we're not even counting it because being a dumbass rioter provides some kind of immunity, right? If it's not offing them in droves like predicted and then doubled back on, then it's not going to off the common citizen, either.

Common sense, use it.

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: KKLOCO

They will be extending the lockdowns into next year and beyond when Trump wins.
If Biden is somehow able to steal it, the lockdowns will end by Christmas or before.
Just sayin.

Whether it’s either of those time frames, there will be no economy to return to.....

If people don’t wake up and start opposing this draconian crap, we will be doomed forever.

I agree, crashing the economy shouldn’t have happened at all.

No that I know thousands of people but I don’t know of anyone that has had this “virus” and none of the people I do know knows of anyone either.
A few stray stories here and there of my “friend’s cousin’s neighbor’s uncle” had it, is all I have ever heard.
Just unsubstantiated stories.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: vonclod
I imagine if people wore masks when applicable, this might not be happening. It's up to everyone.. how this plays out. Since many will not bear it..well, enjoy your lockdown.

It's just my opinion, not interested in debating effectiveness.

Bullhockey, if this was half as bad as claimed, the rioters/protests/loser gatherings would be rife with walking dead and ever-decreasing numbers of participants from the oh-so-scary death rate.

They.
Aren't.

The claims don't hold up to snuff when we factor in the mass gatherings via civil unrest. Unless we're not even counting it because being a dumbass rioter provides some kind of immunity, right? If it's not offing them in droves like predicted and then doubled back on, then it's not going to off the common citizen, either.

Common sense, use it.

I'm aware of all that, and, believe it or not, share your questions/concerns. I'm super tired of contradicting info.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: vonclod
I imagine if people wore masks when applicable, this might not be happening. It's up to everyone.. how this plays out. Since many will not bear it..well, enjoy your lockdown.

It's just my opinion, not interested in debating effectiveness.

Bullhockey, if this was half as bad as claimed, the rioters/protests/loser gatherings would be rife with walking dead and ever-decreasing numbers of participants from the oh-so-scary death rate.

They.
Aren't.

The claims don't hold up to snuff when we factor in the mass gatherings via civil unrest. Unless we're not even counting it because being a dumbass rioter provides some kind of immunity, right? If it's not offing them in droves like predicted and then doubled back on, then it's not going to off the common citizen, either.

Common sense, use it.

I'm aware of all that, and, believe it or not, share your questions/concerns. I'm super tired of contradicting info.

As am I. It makes it real hard to take ANY government recommendation seriously when the guy peddling the BS can't even keep his crap straight. Don't bother with masks, no! bother with masks. This odds number is high, nope, now it's lower, wait, no higher!

Eff them. I'll settle for signing legal paperwork for every business I enter, nobody needs the right to sue a business over catching a bug when they signed the right away to recover some freedoms. The rest of you still quaking in your boots and pooping your pants can nail your windows and doors shut. I doubt you'd be remembered in 100 years anyway -- even I won't be.

originally posted by: Annee
But, with all this — he made masks — Your Choice.

Not exactly. The Governor is a coward hiding behind the mayors. He left it up to each city to decide for themselves. As far as I know, every city within the greater Phoenix metro area mandates masks. And I believe Maricopa County also made it mandatory.

I gave up believing these lockdowns, mask mandates, have anything to do with a virus.

It's all about control and destabilisation.

Most of the masks people are wearing, don't protect anyone from anything.

Some masks do, not the ones that are being worn in mass though.

It's destroying small business, shattering the middle class and trying to make people dependent on the gov for help.

The sheer amount of chaos being allowed with the protests/ riots, i'm to believe there's a legit concern about the virus? NO.

There's an agenda at work here, and it's not to the benefit of the average person.

a reply to: Nyiah

Eff them. I'll settle for signing legal paperwork for every business I enter, nobody needs the right to sue a business

I love this idea! Enter at your own risk.

Walk into an establishment, right on the wall is the legal agreement. Have anyone who wants to enter sign away.

But that would be giving power back to the people. Can’t have that, now can we....

The rest of you still quaking in your boots and pooping your pants can nail your windows and doors shut. I doubt you'd be remembered in 100 years anyway -- even I won't be.

Here, here — Nyiah for president!!!

I wish Trump would adopt this attitude.

It's all about political divide and klunker 🦃🚬

originally posted by: xuenchen
It's all about political divide and klunker 🦃🚬

I somewhat see that. But the divide isn’t that great. My republican governor is imposing this crap on us.

It only makes sense in the aspect of gaining elderly peoples votes. What about the rest of us? He thinks he can win with just the older people voting for him?

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Annee
But, with all this — he made masks — Your Choice.

Not exactly. The Governor is a coward hiding behind the mayors. He left it up to each city to decide for themselves. As far as I know, every city within the greater Phoenix metro area mandates masks. And I believe Maricopa County also made it mandatory.

Yes, he is.

Not sure. I’m in Yuma with Trump Loyalist Nicholls.

“Yuma City Council Votes To Require Face Masks in Public, Mayor Votes No”

www.kawc.org...

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: xuenchen
It's all about political divide and klunker 🦃🚬

I somewhat see that. But the divide isn’t that great. My republican governor is imposing this crap on us.

It only makes sense in the aspect of gaining elderly peoples votes. What about the rest of us? He thinks he can win with just the older people voting for him?

What irks me, and generates my very blunt no s#s given anymore attitude, is the fact that we're being told to throw everythign away for a scant few unlucky genetic lottery folks.

That is far from fair. The needs of the few don't outweigh the needs of the many, especially not in countries that depend on their economy being consumer-based. The many (businesses) are suffering far worse than the few (medically iffy)

The simple fact that those businesses & their owners and workers are being maligned as selfish is telling. And tells me who's worth "saving" and who isn't.

a reply to: Nyiah

Bingo! The livelihoods of a select, already cursed few — are far more important than the rest of us. You know, the people that actually have to sustain living on this planet, for decades to come.

Which it really doesn’t affect their livelihood. All they got to do is quarantine to survive. It’s just that simple.

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: Drucifer

Some of our tenants here at work are state/county agencies and some of them have mentioned it’s brewing in the city building. More than that, they’re likely to be more strict than the first lockdown.

WTF, more strict than the first lockdown?

I hope that doesn’t happen for your sake.

Just imagine stricter lockdowns, with everyone making 50% of the unemployment rate they’ve been getting...

Myself, personally, won’t really be effected. Our property contains federal/state/local government offices and it’s in their lease’s that I *have* to be here in case anything goes wrong with the buildings or their suites. Worst case scenario, I get a National Guard/DHS escort into work every morning.

This area might make it out of another shut down with relatively few businesses closing doors permanently. Reason being; we heavily rely on tourism down here and we’re in the summer months, which is the slowest time for tourism. The majority of businesses and workers in those businesses rely on the winter months to make the majority of their money because come late spring/early summer, you’re on your own. If they’re going to shut us down again, now is the time to do it. Of course, there are some businesses that may not survive, depending on what’s left in Uncle Sam’s piggy bank and if congress decides to print of some more of those sweet fiat bucks.

If this is something we still have to deal with come late September, the state will be screwed much harder than it already has been. So far, I haven’t seen any shops permanently close the doors. There’s a million strip malls and I don’t see them all, but nothing in the 10 mile radius of my home has closed and I’m almost square in the middle of Ft. Lauderdale.

We shall see.

originally posted by: Annee

“Yuma City Council Votes To Require Face Masks in Public, Mayor Votes No”

www.kawc.org...

So he votes "no" and then signs it anyway? No virtue signalling for his likely voters there, eh?

Gotta feel a little extra for the police:

Yuma Police Chief Susan Smith was asked by the Council how YPD would enforce the mask requirement. In response to a joking question from Councilman Mike Shelton, Chief Smith said there would be no “Mask Police” enforcing the mandate.

As if they don't have enough to deal with these days.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: vonclod
I imagine if people wore masks when applicable, this might not be happening. It's up to everyone.. how this plays out. Since many will not bear it..well, enjoy your lockdown.

It's just my opinion, not interested in debating effectiveness.

Bullhockey, if this was half as bad as claimed, the rioters/protests/loser gatherings would be rife with walking dead and ever-decreasing numbers of participants from the oh-so-scary death rate.

They.
Aren't.

The claims don't hold up to snuff when we factor in the mass gatherings via civil unrest. Unless we're not even counting it because being a dumbass rioter provides some kind of immunity, right? If it's not offing them in droves like predicted and then doubled back on, then it's not going to off the common citizen, either.

Common sense, use it.

I had this discussion with my wife the other day. We were at 3 of the protests during the first week of them and the overwhelming majority were wearing masks and while there were several hundred people, there was enough space so no one was right on top of each other. I can see how people down here managed not to spread it, there was much more cautiousness at the time.

Portland, however, there’s no f’n way they’re going to make me believe that those people aren’t spreading it like wildfire. 2000+ people packed into that area? Taking off their masks after running out of gas clouds or smoke from the fires? Come on... If I don’t see reports of the virus spreading like crazy up there, you’ll see me borrowing Steven Crowder to sit outside the protests in Portland with a “This Coronavirus is BULLSH!T- Change My Mind” table set up.