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Bars present a uniquely high-risk environment for the transmission of COVID-19. They are “social setting[s] where groups [of young people] typically convene, and at times mix with other groups.” They are “often cramped indoor spaces with poor ventilation” and “unlike restaurants that can space tables apart, bars often have fixed bar stool seating.” Loud music or ambient noise can exacerbate the risk because it forces to persons to talk louder or closer to one another. Drinking is not compatible with mask wearing. Moreover, “alcohol consumption slows brain activity, reduces inhibition, and impairs judgment,” which increases the likelihood that precautionary measures will not be followed. Also, “dancing is a common activity at many bars” and can result in “heavier breathing than is normal and increase[d] respiratory droplet secretions.” “This coupled with a warm indoor environment, limited ventilation, and turbulent airflow patterns results in an environment where the respiratory droplets are more easily spread.”
Some of these points raised by the Governor and his Lawyers are laughable but this is the Scientific Evidence they are making as to why Bars are a uniquely high risk. All of these concerns can be mitigated and pretty much resolved IF the Governor and his team of people applied themselves and worked with us Bars to make the changes necessary to make us 'Safe'. The Governor, Arizona Department of Health, Arizona Chamber of Commerce and The Arizona Board of Regents who provide over-site to ASU, NAU and UA all agree and they all believe Bars should remain closed.
WTF are us Bar Owners meant to do?? Restaurants (over 4,000 of them are licensed to sell alcohol), Breweries, Wineries, Golf Resorts, Hotels, Casino's, Distilleries etc can stay open but an estimated 1,200 Bars have remain closed, indefinitely. All that is happening is that Bar Customers are just drinking at all these other places that serve alcohol. Bars are going out of business and our 10,000 plus Employees are losing their jobs. Through Executive Order 2020-43 made on June 29, 2020 Bars also have to Attest to Health requirements set by Arizona Department of Health. These requirements are not even available yet. The CDC categorizes Restaurants and Bars together and the CDC has Health Standards that BOTH Restaurants and Bars should follow, but the Governor ignores this???
My state "indiana" is easing restrictions now but has implemented mandatory masks in public places.
Some of our tenants here at work are state/county agencies and some of them have mentioned it’s brewing in the city building. More than that, they’re likely to be more strict than the first lockdown.
originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: vonclod
People have been adhering to the mask requirements. Everyone is wearing them in confined spaces.
That’s if you even see people in public. The supposedly most ‘hard hit’ areas, Scottsdale and Phoenix — are ghost towns.
Justification might be that there might be some mass shotting at a protest or some thing. and in the interest of "safety" nobody but the state shall own guns.
originally posted by: Bhadhidar
a reply to: KKLOCO
Noticed that the bar owner’s response letter failed completely to offer any suggestions their establishments could effect to mitigate the concerns expressed by the Governor’s lawyers.
No mention of limiting the number of customers allowed in their bars at any one time, no mention of eliminating live or recorded music, or prohibiting dancing in their establishments, no mention of putting strict limitations on the amount of alcohol that may be served to individuals to reduce the likelihood of irresponsibility.
Your friends chose to run a bar, as opposed to a restaurant or winery; that choice came with certain known, and as circumstances have proven, unknown responsibilities.
Freedom comes with responsibilities.
Government says we can re-open if we agree to abide to rules set by AZ Health Department but they say they cannot gets these rules ready until July 28, the day after Gov allows us to re-open. No joke.