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Yugoslavian Issues Warning To All Americans

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posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I am sick and tired of idiots who constantly claim "a new form of socialism is what we need" and always claim capitalism is at fault when it is socialist policies that destroys nations and makes people slaves... Sorry to rain in your imaginary world but fascism is a socialist branch that socialists invented...




posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Will America's Left simply rename it Democratic Socialism?



Heck, just like Chavez claimed his was "a new form of socialism, socialism of the 21st century." Leftists in this same forum were all claiming how it was going to be good for the people of Venezuela, meanwhile people like me stated that Venezuela would become like Cuba. Whom was right?



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: LABTECH767

I am sick and tired of idiots who constantly claim "a new form of socialism is what we need" and always claim capitalism is at fault when it is socialist policies that destroys nations and makes people slaves... Sorry to rain in your imaginary world but fascism is a socialist branch that socialists invented...


Oh no little boy it is not a NEW form it is the ORIGINAL form, long before it was called that by anyone, long, long before Marx was born it existed as an obvious ideal.

Go and read your OLD testament then read what Jesus said.

It is in no place called Socialism it is called caring for your brother's and sisters, sharing what GOD gave to everyone.

Just because some atheist prick want's to keep all the pie, just because his or her atheist parent's educated there kid to take before someone else does not make it right.

Leave the grain that fall's to the ground for the poor and widow's to glean.

Don't treat a widow cruelly and do not put her out of her home.

In fact there was even a prototype of a welfare state in the old testament.

Marxism is Atheism stealing idea's from ancient Judaism and Christianity simple as that, who own's the world YOU not a chance in hell, some corporation nope, someone with document's that they paid for with cash that were printed by someone for land that they stole and called there's, nope it belongs to GOD - not to the God's to the ONE God, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Here is the crux for you oh poor in spirit the real you, the naked YOU that God clothed in ANIMAL SKIN's is your spirit - your soul..

Now if you think this world of Dust and death is all there is then you and everyone like you has another thing coming, read again Genesis and understand it's meaning the Knowledge of good and Evil, to know evil you have to suffer it including death, we all DIE except our Lord and he died for us so that we may Live, his was the ultimate act of giving, of sharing.

Those animal skin's God sowed for Adam and Eve who were ashamed of there nakedness were there earthly body's, he Knit's you together in your mother's womb.

YOU have no idea of what you are talking about I am a Christian and in that I am definitely a Royalist so I am not a Communist or a Capitalist.

A new kind of Socialism indeed it is the OLDEST and TRUEST kind the original one based on GOD's Law's and Example of which I speak and crave.

And you know what while our states were as far from God as can be the closest any modern nation has gotten before it was destroyed was post war Britain and pre immigration Sweden but both lacked morality and both were destroyed ultimately by greed, Communism is just another form of Greed just like Capitalism is.

What do you think Christ did to the money changers in the Temple, he overturned there tables and drove them out.

Just how many bankers and capitalists do you think you will see in heaven, how many communists.

On those merits and lack thereof None however ours is a ZEALOUS god (it is by the way Zealous not Jealous that was a mistranslation from the original Aramaic version of the gospel's and earlier old testament texts).

Here is one for you the Lord's Prayer as close as I have learned it is meant to be said from the Arameic.

OUR (not just mine yours as well even if you do not believe in him) beloved father who is everywhere (not just up in the sky and not just in nice places) may your name be forever blessed and held sacred, bring your kingdom more fully into our lives (it's already here you just don't live in it because you live in this world of dust and ignore it even though it is all around you), may your will be done as perfectly in earth and in our lives as it is in heaven, give us this day our daily bread (both spiritual and physical you are asking GOD for a handout and since he is our father he has fed you thus far because he loves you even if you don't love him enough to help your brothers and sisters) and forgive us our trespassers and help us to forgive those whom trespass against us, Lead us AWAY from temptation (the father does NOT tempt you or lead you into sin a father does not give his children poison to eat) and deliver us from evil (which in Aramaic is not just bad people but our own flaw's and misfortune as well as our mistakes etc).

Sorry brother you have your opinion's and belief's I have mine, I am in no way better than you and in no way more correct or for that matter less but I have my opinion (Very strongly held) and you have yours.

So I started this condescending and a bit nasty and I end it apologizing for the flaw in my own nature that led me into that.

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posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do know Yugoslavia was split up once and turned into a fascist state before it became socialist right?



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767

Oh no little boy it is not a NEW form it is the ORIGINAL form, long before it was called that by anyone, long, long before Marx was born it existed as an obvious ideal.


Little boy?... Look old man, apparently your old age is not helping you distinguish fantasy from reality. Jesus was not a socialist... Jesus tells you CHOOSE... socialism takes away your choices and FORCES you...


originally posted by: LABTECH767
Go and read your OLD testament then read what Jesus said.

It is in no place called Socialism it is called caring for your brother's and sisters, sharing what GOD gave to everyone.


Charity is not a political ideology... You can't even understand the difference... Plenty of capitalists are charitable, including myself.


originally posted by: LABTECH767
What do you think Christ did to the money changers in the Temple, he overturned there tables and drove them out.


Because they were selling their stuff in the temple and on Sabbath... Not because Jesus was against capitalism... He was a carpenter, and as such he was paid for his services. But on Sabbath you are not supposed to sell, or buy stuff. The Sabbath is reserved for God alone...


originally posted by: LABTECH767
Now if you think this world of Dust and death is all there is then you and everyone like you has another thing coming, read again Genesis and understand it's meaning the Knowledge of good and Evil, to know evil you have to suffer it including death, we all DIE except our Lord and he died for us so that we may Live, his was the ultimate act of giving, of sharing.


God and Jesus give FREELY... Jesus told his apostles to choose, if they were to follow him they would leave everything behind, including their families... How is that socialism?... You sir are too confused.



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posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do know Yugoslavia was split up once and turned into a fascist state before it became socialist right?


What the heck are you talking about?... The lady explained exactly what happened... But like always some "foreigner" wants to tell the natives differently, that he "as a foreigner" knows better than the native people of a country... Your ego is larger than your imagination...



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You do know Yugoslavia was split up once and turned into a fascist state before it became socialist right?


When I consider things through the lens of experience from folks from that part of Europe, I filter their message through the idea of Balkanization and what that process did to the former Yugoslavia.

In my mind, that is the message that is being transmitted to us, or at least that's how I interpret it.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Jesus turned the tables over because it was taking away the time of people coming together, and involved god somehow. He was exposing the capitalists of the time to make people more interested in money changing and buying useless crap in a place for community and worship.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The man who shot Franz Ferdinand did so to make a clear awareness of a Yugoslav nation. Pretty much all industrialized nations sent political figures to England to establish a recognition of such a nation, and the first Yugoslavia was made.

WW1 happened, and it all went into a frenzy.

Shortly after the Yugoslav nations stuck together, remembering the Kosovo battle as a unifying aspect of society. Then "national socialism" and fascism became a cool idea in Germany and Italy.
When Hitler found out what the 'western nations' had done, he included Yugoslavia on his hit list along with Poland because a Slav killed the Austrian Duke... Fascism broke Yugoslavia, not socialism.
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posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

A unified powerhouse always has enemies that want to take you down. The US was the light of the world at one point.
I believe the term, Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The US had their taste of it already, their war of separation, but the part everyone ignores is that the Confederacy wasn't recognized by any foreign entity, Yugoslavia was, and someone outside of Yugoslavia wanted it gone for that very fact.



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Jesus turned the tables over because it was taking away the time of people coming together, and involved god somehow. He was exposing the capitalists of the time to make people more interested in money changing and buying useless crap in a place for community and worship.


Nope, they were selling stuff in the temple... The temple is not supposed to be about buying or selling stuff...
Not to mention the fact that Jesus made it clear when he was asked about taxes. “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” Jesus wasn't against capitalism... But when those men were selling in the temple, when it should be a time for God, that's what got him mad...



posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

ROFLMAO...an attempt at re-writting history again?...


The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was the Yugoslav state that existed from the second half of World War II (1943) until it was formally dissolved in 1992 (de facto dissolved in 1991 with no leaders representing it) amid the Yugoslav wars. It was a socialist state and a federation made up of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia. In 1992, the two remaining states still committed to a union, Serbia and Montenegro, formed the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, which had not been recognized as the successor of the SFRY by international leaders.
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kosova.wikia.org...

And again, Fascism = a branch of socialism...


Hitler rested his case for the National Socialist regime on the fundamental conviction that the State is the most precious thing on earth, the individual nothing.
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www.libertarianism.org...

Left-wingers and your attempts are denying facts...

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posted on Jul, 25 2020 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck
a reply to: LABTECH767

Read parts found it funny or should I say using Nazism and Christian in the same line. Nazism was anti Christian.



Nazism is an "occult", they took every symbol and basically reversed it. Nothing to do with Fascist Italy which failed horribly. That is why Mussolini was an idiot. German republic fell when Nazi took over. Communism is a whole different thing, nothing to do with Nazism. Do not ever compare the two to be the same. Never ever compare Chinese communism to USSR. That is everyone god dam mistake. Chinese people are more imperial than communist. Mao is dead, he couldn't live long enough to implement his real version of communism. Same goes with Lenin when Stalin took over. USSR was a military dictatorship. What US has is a corporate military dictatorship. Which is a mixture of Corporation and USSR. You can fking see it with all the US bases and threatening everyone who doesn't follow especially of the non-removal of military bases.

US is the new USSR not China. China is more imperialism under communist name. NK is a full on imperialism under fake communism and fake democracy name. Kim dynasty. If US ever let the Church controls the state it will become like Nazism under false hope of Christianity. The founding fathers specifically had constitution for right to bear arm for everyone on purpose and minute men militia(civilian militia). Also the division between state and church. The whole country became a sham once people started losing the right to carry fire arms/sword freely. Double speak, ban firearms of other countries while allowing the rich to afford guns only. Lots of law in place that you must buy your guns, not born with it. That is why weapon selling is a thing in USA market system, full on corruption. If everyone had access to guns by law and were militia at start there would be less and less of an issue.

US got fked over by Mafia groups simple as that.
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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: makemap

Another insane communist... ALL damn communist/socialist regimes expand, and use their military to keep control... The U.S. is not U.S.S.R., unless you are talking about New York, Portland, etc whom are calling for Marxism to be implemented...

Lenin murdered people as well, and Mao murdered millions of people... Your revisionism of history won't work, and if you are in favor of communism and are one of the retarded fools out there causing violence, rioting, and looting, I hope you get caught.

You sir are not alone, plenty of fools think similar to your insane argument, but like them you are simply INSANE...



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:09 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse WE are going to be the next China,base income,social ratings,food rationing,1 world order,already here we aren't the US anymore we are the UAE



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 06:43 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yugoslavia was Balkanized by the fascists... after ww2 it became a socialist state, under the name of communism, but it used msrket socialism as its main means of production, it wasn't like any other socialist state at the time.
Then it was balkanized again from foreign influences, mainly the US through economic pressures to turn it into a free market system, part of reagans neo liberalism.



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

A unified powerhouse always has enemies that want to take you down. The US was the light of the world at one point.
I believe the term, Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The US had their taste of it already, their war of separation, but the part everyone ignores is that the Confederacy wasn't recognized by any foreign entity, Yugoslavia was, and someone outside of Yugoslavia wanted it gone for that very fact.


I think the pertinence of "balkanization" WRT the US is more for modern times, not mid-late 19th century, US civil war period. The growth of factions and separate subgroups in the US has accelerated such a great deal since the civil war.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 03:33 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it. 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

so that your fasting will not be obvious to men, but only to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 19Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be required of you. Then who will own what you have accumulated?’ 21This is how it will be for anyone who stores up treasure for himself but is not rich toward God.” 22Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat, or about your body, what you will wear.

Your riches have rotted and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and consume your flesh like fire. You have hoarded treasure in the last days. 4Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts.

On and on and on, but of course it is possible to be rich both on earth and in the Lord, eye of a needle.

There is nothing against ordinary people going about there lives but the likes of those corporate head's that fill there bank account's and live like princes while there workers slave in sweat shop's.

Economy's have to work, it is when the economy is Godless and surely you can not miss the point, the man who stored up treasure in his barn only for God to say it was his time and he died so whom them claim's that treasure.

Over here in the UK we had a pension system based on Christian moral's of Christian men whom were in our labour party after WW2 that made sure it was fit for purpose, over the years afterwards both that pot and the NHS pot were systematically raided by the Tories and later Labour government's so that we got the 2000's and then the Tory's started claiming that our Pension system was not fit for purpose and all with an ulterior motive.

You see despite the fact they are pyramid schemes there are a lot of private pension schemes that moved into the UK and a few that began here and these are a prime money spinner for Hedge Fund's just as private health insurance is, many politician's are into politics it for what is colloquially called Vested interests which mean's direct conflict of interest between serving the public and between serving themselves, they are in it to get rich and many of them have huge investments in the hedge fund's often NOT in there own names but those of there relatives due to the way it work's in the UK, driving people off the state pension scheme and ENSURING that it would collapse was a sure fire way of taxing the poor - but oh not to the government this TAX pay's straight into the PRIVATE pension scheme's and to SWEETEN it even more they also put government money that SHOULD be paying into the state pension system directly into these PRIVATE pension schemes - in which of course these government minister's are actual share holders.

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posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:54 AM
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"Render unto Caesars, what is Caesars. And render unto God what is Gods."

Hate to spoil the party, but wasn't there another thread previously made, which goes against T&C, which is basically the constitution of the site.

Also the fact that he claimed to the the Jealous God incarnate infront of bunch Zealots, and was nice to Roman's didnt help. The whipping at the temple was the final straw that got him.

What odd though is that Judaism back then is very much akin to Communism to an extent, with the fashion an thought police making sure they dont offend God...while still making money off interest apparently.

Rome was definitely facist for the most, long before the word was even invented.
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posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:08 AM
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On that subject the word Jealous in western bibles was apparently a mistranslation and a better translation would be Zealous God, the similarity in sound in our language has nothing to do with that translation error.

I would not say it was akin to communism but Karl Marx despite being an atheist definitely took inspiration from his Jewish ancestor's and religious writing's and his form of Socialism which is atheist socialism is a kind which lack's a moral core, lack's human empathy in spite of being based upon these very thing's and so ended up becoming the basis for a totalitarian and inhumane system of governance and corruption which killed the very people it was supposed to be helping.

Personally I believe in a system of Vested Self Interest, think about as regulated capitalism in which a portion of the capitalist profit is fed back into society in a manner that will boost living standard's, ensure workers are well catered for and give back to people while still rewarding the entrepreneurs and in fact preventing them killing the very tree they are plucking the fruit of there wealth from by keeping it's root's well nourished.


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