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Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 07:59 AM
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How's your white guilt treating you today?




posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
How's your white guilt treating you today?



What guilt? Please explain this one to me?



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

How about YOU stay on the topic and stop drifting in and out, going off on tangents and constantly playing the "OHH!! BUT! WAT ABOUT??" something entirely unrelated to the discussion at hand.

First, Get a real argument and then learn how to defend it.




posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

It shows



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 11:14 AM
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Everything in China has to do with the CCP since hey control every aspect of that country as well as the lives of people in that country.

FYI, haven't seen anything here remotely proving anything. I've seen good explanations, namely that they are being used to defraud buyers by inflating reviews of otherwise subpar products.

You are the one who can't address these facts. Not surprised, you are literally unable to see the bigger picture outside your own cage of whataboutism.

Obviously it's a tactic used to slide relevant discussion.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Jay-morris

How about YOU stay on the topic and stop drifting in and out, going off on tangents and constantly playing the "OHH!! BUT! WAT ABOUT??" something entirely unrelated to the discussion at hand.

First, Get a real argument and then learn how to defend it.



Sorry but who was the one saying we should kill chinese people, all for a bunch of seeds? Was that me or you?


Everything in China has to do with the CCP since hey control every aspect of that country as well as the lives of people in that country.


Absolutly rubbish! China has a problem with scams, frauds like any other country. Has nothing to do with the Chinese Government. Unless you can prove that, which I doubt it very much.


FYI, haven't seen anything here remotely proving anything. I've seen good explanations, namely that they are being used to defraud buyers by inflating reviews of otherwise subpar products.


Exactly! It's companies doing this, but and small, and nothing to do eith the Chinese Government. Are a the frauds and scams that happen in America to do with your government?


You are the one who can't address these facts. Not surprised, you are literally unable to see the bigger picture outside your own cage of whataboutism.


Don't make me laugh! I have seen you go on many threads believing every story you hear about China, as long as it ßhows them in a negative light, and you are doing it again, even though these seeds have nothing to do with the Chinese Government.



First, Get a real argument and then learn how to defend it.


You basically said we should go to war with China over a bunch of seeds. This is the type if mentallity you have. Please give up! You eill not win this debate.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Where did I say that.......?

Actually I said we should've done that after they killed Americans in Korea and Vietnam.

EVERY COMPANY AND PERSON in china is controlled by the CCP. Their money goes to the CCP. The CCP is a dictatorship, there is no freedom or free market in a communist country.

TLDR, chinas economy is in severe shape as evidenced by their moves against Hong Kong, Taiwan and the invasion of Japanese fishing waters. They are resorting to their namesake schemes, plots, etc to make up for it



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 12:20 PM
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Where did I say that.......?

Actually I said we should've done that after they killed Americans in Korea and Vietnam.


Sigh!


You write this in your first post on this thread.

Again, for the Nth time, we need to go into total war mode and surprise attack the commies. It's us or them,


Do I need to say anymore?


EVERY COMPANY AND PERSON in china is controlled by the CCP. Their money goes to the CCP. The CCP is a dictatorship, there is no freedom or free market in a communist country.


If that's the case, then please tell me why see see so much scams/frauds in China? Are you seriously saying that every criminal goes through the CCP first before they do their criminal activity, or fraudulent activity?


TLDR, chinas economy is in severe shape as evidenced by their moves against Hong Kong, Taiwan and the invasion of Japanese fishing waters. They are resorting to their namesake schemes, plots, etc to make up for it


LOL their economy has nothing to do with the moves they are making please tell me, what is exactly happening concerning Taiwan. Please tell me?

Moves against Hong Kong were always going to to made. I do not agree with them but again, had nothing to do eith the state of the Chinese economy.

As for the invasion of Japanese fishing waters, this has been going on for decades, so nothing new here.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 12:32 PM
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The CCP is a criminal syndicate, so yes it wouldn't surprise me.

They steal our IP, duplicate our technology with poor knockoffs, attack their neighbors and put millions of ethnic minorities in concentration camps so Apple, Nike and Google among others can get cheap labor instead of employing those in the country that made them big and successful

Millions of counterfeits a year come out of that place. So yes, the corrupt communists are bribed or turn a blind eye while crime they profit from skyrockets

Any country harboring communists/socialists/etc is an enemy and a direct threat. The fact weak leaders in the past let them get nuclear weapons of their own is an attrocity well no doubt pay for in blood as usual


Never trust a communist! They are sneaky and deceptive by nature
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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 12:51 PM
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The CCP is a criminal syndicate, so yes it wouldn't surprise me.


Most governments around the world are criminals and do terrible and horrible things. Hours included. I know you like to look at your leader as mini Gods, but they are just human beings that crave control, money and power.


They steal our IP, duplicate our technology with poor knockoffs, attack their neighbors and put millions of ethnic minorities in concentration camps so Apple, Nike and Google among others can get cheap labor instead of employing those in the country that made them big and successful



Your government destroyed Iraq, and responsible for thousands of innocent men, women and children. The illegal invasion in Iraq gave rise to ISIS, which caused thousands of more deaths.

The illegal participation of the Libya war to over throw Qaddafi. Not because your government cares about the people,It was to prevent the creation of an independent hard currency in Africa that would free the continent from economic bondage under the dollar. So, they armed rebels, who we would normally call terrorists go to the first work. Again killing thousands of innocent men, women and children.

And how about the American governments involvement in Yemen, where again, thousands apon thousands of innocent people have died.

So, should these countries rise up against America? With your logic, that's what they should be doing right?


Any country harboring communists/socialists/etc is an enemy and a direct threat. The fact weak leaders in the past let them get nuclear weapons of their own is an attrocity well no doubt pay for in blood as usual


Yet you ignore, time and time again, the horrors your own government has done. What makes you any different to a chinese person who ignores the horrors their government has done.

Is the different God? Is God looking down on America?


Never trust a communist! They are sneaky and deceptive by nature


So you know every chinese person right? You know how they think, you know the type if personality they have? You know bow the Chinese children act, and what their personalities are.

Are you God?



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 01:36 PM
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Yawn.

An actual, factual Chinese shill. First time meeting one

The hallmark is "what about what about what about" also notice you try to slide legit criticism of the CCP as far back as possible under continual defenses and excuses

Interesting picture of Hitler you got there by the way. What's the story there? Interesting you'd take offense at Stone using the word Negro while displaying a photo of Hitler.
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posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 01:56 PM
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An actual, factual Chinese shill. First time meeting one


Ah the old "government shill" when losing a debate. Gues i am a vhinese spy too lol


The hallmark is "what about what about what about" also notice you try to slide legit criticism of the CCP as far back as possible under continual defenses and excuses


My point is, and it's gone way over your head, is the fact that people like you, always ignore your own givernment horrors, while pointing your finger at other countries. Why is that?


Interesting picture of Hitler you got there by the way. What's the story there? Interesting you'd take offense at Stone using the word Negro while displaying a photo of Hitler.



And now your hole is well and truely dug! That picture is a piece of art called Blood brothers. I do not expect you to know anything about art, but I will give you some hints on the piece, and see if you can work it out.

It shows Jesus with his arm around Hitler going "down" an escalator together. Here is a big hint! They are going down together!

Anything?



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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I'm not losing the debate. I'm the only one engaging in a debate. You refuse to address the topic at hand and justify it by obscure references to questionable events that are entirely unrelated

You then "slide" the valid points made in the debate by spewing all sorts of rubbish and drowning out he legitimate criticism.

What the US and other countries did or did not do is materially irrelevant to this conversation.

Every topic about China one thing is true: serious allegations with evidence are levied against the chinese tyrants AND you will be there to give a full throated defense of red china "but the USA! Millions of people!"

For starters, there are NOT millions of innocents killed by the US. Far, far fewer. China exterminates MILLIONS every single YEAR and is single handedly responsible for the pandemic and multiple other diseases that frequently escape it's borders

In essence, FC



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 02:30 PM
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It shows Jesus with his arm around Hitler going "down" an escalator together. Here is a big hint! They are going down together!



Yeah you're a real class act.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 02:32 PM
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I'm not losing the debate. I'm the only one engaging in a debate. You refuse to address the topic at hand and justify it by obscure references to questionable events that are entirely unrelated


Address what? It's dodgy companies in China. What is there to address?


You then "slide" the valid points made in the debate by spewing all sorts of rubbish and drowning out he legitimate criticism.


You tried to make out that the CCP is behind this, which is laughable.


What the US and other countries did or did not do is materially irrelevant to this conversation.


No it's not ehen you say we should invade China for the bad things they have done, while completly ignore your own governments horrors.



Every topic about China one thing is true: serious allegations with evidence are levied against the chinese tyrants AND you will be there to give a full throated defense of red china "but the USA! Millions of people!"


Again, wrong! When have I defended the birfible things the CCP do? So, with your logic, bringing up the horrors your government has done means I am defending the CCP?


For starters, there are NOT millions of innocents killed by the US. Far, far fewer. China exterminates MILLIONS every single YEAR and is single handedly responsible for the pandemic and multiple other diseases that frequently escape it's borders

In essence, FC


So you are turning this into a "They are more evil than us" to somehow justify you completly ignoring the terrible things your government does.

My point, and it has always been my point is do not point fingers at other countries, if you ignore all the things your government has done.

Problem is, in every single country, there are conditioned sheep like you. As long as we have brainwashed fanatical patriots lime you, we eill always have hate, violence and wars, because people lime you let their government get away with it.

That is the truth of the matter.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Jay-morris




It shows Jesus with his arm around Hitler going "down" an escalator together. Here is a big hint! They are going down together!



Yeah you're a real class act.


Oh please explain? I cannot wait to hear this!



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: Lysergic
How's your white guilt treating you today?



What guilt? Please explain this one to me?



heuhe



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 03:48 PM
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Oh please explain? I cannot wait to hear this!


Gladly. Your avatar of Jesus and Hitler is despicable. It shows you are a fundamentally non-serious person.

Like I said, a real class act. Apparently you think attacking people on the basis of religion is acceptable.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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Address what? It's dodgy companies in China. What is there to address?


You *think* its dodgy companies in china. Could just as easily be an effort to introduce an invasive species of plant. They infected tens of millions around the world with the WuFlu and then lied about/covered it up/disappeared Doctors trying to sound the alarm. Give me one good reason I should trust a single thing coming out of that place.


You tried to make out that the CCP is behind this, which is laughable.


The CCP is behind everything in china. Because that's how communism works. Its not some kumbaya hippie party that everyone attends once a year and then goes back to normal life. There is NO NORMAL LIFE under a communist dictatorship!


No it's not ehen you say we should invade China for the bad things they have done, while completly ignore your own governments horrors.


A) China has done far worse.
B) Yes, as a nationalist I am concerned with the success of the United States not the success of china or any other country.


Again, wrong! When have I defended the birfible things the CCP do? So, with your logic, bringing up the horrors your government has done means I am defending the CCP?


There are no "horrors" there is merely collateral damage. Far less than any other country on this Earth can claim, in fact. We don't target civilians.


So you are turning this into a "They are more evil than us" to somehow justify you completly ignoring the terrible things your government does.

My point, and it has always been my point is do not point fingers at other countries, if you ignore all the things your government has done.


That's not how it works. I'm concerned with the success of the United States not china. I absolutely will point fingers at china because whatever my country has or has not done is totally irrelevant to the very recent PLAGUE china unleashed on the world. They should be groveling begging for forgiveness not their typical very unjustified arrogance. They should hang their heads in shame, how dirty is that place that they can't keep the constant string of infectious organisms at least confined to their own borders?


Problem is, in every single country, there are conditioned sheep like you. As long as we have brainwashed fanatical patriots lime you, we eill always have hate, violence and wars, because people lime you let their government get away with it.


Get a grip. You accuse me of being a patriot? I stand guilty as charged there. FYI, patriotism is a blessing not something to wallow away from in shame. I actually feel sorry for you that your own country isn't good enough to justify such a beautiful thing.

My government isn't getting away with anything. I overwhelming support US foreign policy over the last century. I sleep perfectly fine at night with the acts taken in my name to secure my liberty and my nation's success. I don't feel bad for weaker lesser countries who picked a fight with the biggest dog on the block and got bit. Not one bit.



posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: Lysergic
How's your white guilt treating you today?



What guilt? Please explain this one to me?



heuhe


Ok, you cannot explain it.



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