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Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

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posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 02:38 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Ironic since it was, and have always been people like you whom ignored the fact that it was Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations whom kept attacking civilians.


Seriosly? I mean seriosly?

Let me ask you this. Did terrorists take over huge areas of Iraq under saddam? Or was it when they were illegally invaded by the west and a puppet government put in place?


Those American soldiers who have done wrong in Iraq, Afghanistan have been punished, and they don't speak for the whole Armed Forces of the U.S...


What the hell are you talking about? I am not talking about the deaths caused by western soldiers. Your knowledge is very limited in this area, but you still refuse to blame the West for what happened in Iraq.


I wonder why tribes in Iraq, and other parts of the Middle East grouped with the U.S. military to stop Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations in the Middle East?...


Again, talking rubbish! The American government caused the mess in Iraq, but how many American soldiers were sent to Iraq to help sort the mess out and fight on the ground alongside Iraq soldiers?

The only reason we saw the rise of ISIS, is Because they saw a broken country where is would be easy to overrun.

Seriosly, get your facts right.


Ironic since it is people like you whom are ignoring that Antifa, BLM, etc have been destroying buildings after looting them, attacking innocent people, murdering innocent people, and causing chaos in democrat hellhole cities.


You are the one ignoring facts and turning a blind eye here, not me, as I have proven above!




posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: JBurns


I'm beating the war drums because the sneaky chinese intend to do us harm and challenge our global strategic, tactical and economic interests. We hold all the cards, don't need a better reason that that.


Dear oh dear JBurns. You have made some stupid posts in the past that showed you are a brainwashed extreme patriot, but the posts on here are the most hateful I have seen posted from you.


It's past time to put china back in it's place. And if we can do that while cooking some commies then that's just an added bonus.


"Cooking some commies"? You are ok with the deaths of innocent men, women and children? I bet you think your God would approve too, because God only care about America and only blesses America right?


I can say for certain chinas missiles would never touch US soil. We have the ability to fight and win a nuclear war, and our kill vehicles would eliminate the communists before they could even react


You have the ability to fight a war? If there was a nuclear war, it would destroy a vood percentage of this planet. But hey, God looks down on America, they they will not be touched.

The problem here, if people lime you, who are mostly religous hypocrites, really do think that God is protecting America. It's religous people lime you who loom at Trump like the messiah. It's religous people like you who do not care if millions of innocent men, women and Children die, as long as they are not American.

The world has to deal with the facts that there are loads of people like you around the world.


Same reason they're communists instead of a real country with a real government based on a real ideology. Pretty simple really.


Yet, you ignore all of the terrible things your own Governmenthas done. Maybe because you think God told them to do it, or God was ok with it. Either way, excuses excuses!


Commie "lives" are worthless


You are sinking lower and lower, and after this debate, like other debates I have had with you, you eill quietly leave this thread never to return.


An insect or blade of grass has more value than the communist. The communist is inherently useless, and is a net-loss to any society with the misfortunate of having it within.


The problem is, you do not see millions of innocent people here, just trying to lives their lives. You see a collective of people with no individually, so it's easy for you to not be bothered if they are killed. It's sad, but that's the way you have been conditioned. You are a fanatical religous person and a fanatical patriot, and that mix is very dangeruos, as we all know.



The communist is sneaky, subversive, invasive. It will lay low in a society until it sees the moment to strike, and then lash out with violence at that which it does not understand.


Yeah because your government does not do that right? Oh, I forgot, God blesses America, so it's ok if your government does these horrible things!


Our interests, however slight, are infinitely more valuable than every communist unfortunately breathing air. I only regret we didn't eradicate them half a century ago when our people used to know how to properly handle the communist/socialist.


The only interest your government has, like all governments, is money, control and power, that's it. They do not give a crap about you, or your family.


Very little. My defense stocks are doing quite well though.

Has nothing to do with winning an election, and everything to do with securing our republic by advocating for the total destruction of communism, socialism, communists and socialists.


You are a good little soldier aren't you?


Again, not inciting violence and murder merely responding to the threat of communism which is far more insidious and dangerous than that which you mention. It is self-defense by a nation. The mere act of being a communist/socialist is an act of violence. Being a communist is a violent act, no different than shooting a firearm or throwing a punch. They are one in the same. Societies are justified defending themselves against this threat by any means neccesary with no limitations.


You are inciting murder and violence! You are a fanatical religous person and patriot, and that is what they do!


Negative. My country/Constitution come first.


The only reason you say this is because you look at your government and leader as God like.


Yes, that flies in the face of my religion but that is OK. Put it this way, if my religion and my country were in conflict with one another - my country would win.


Of course you would say this, and just proves just how much of an extreme patriot you are. And of course, like so many others, you are a hypocrite when it comes to your religion. You are a cherry picker!


Let me frame it this way: our battle is one of civilization against feral, unclean, violent communists. And should we win this war, the notion of a communist will only existin the past tense.


You have alot of hate inside you for a religous person, but you are not the only one sadly. This is one of the reasons why I hate religion because it makes people like you.

People like you are EASILY manipalated. Just loom how trump how manipalated people like you to believe he is heaven sent.

In the future, people will look back at people like you, and be thankful they do not exist anymore. Either that or we eill destroy this planet for their God, or their leaders.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 05:37 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Nothin


So 'commie' lives, are less important than the USA's "global strategic, tactical and economic interests" eh ?
Politics above Human lives ? Really ?


Commie "lives" are worthless. An insect or blade of grass has more value than the communist. The communist is inherently useless, and is a net-loss to any society with the misfortunate of having it within. The communist is sneaky, subversive, invasive. It will lay low in a society until it sees the moment to strike, and then lash out with violence at that which it does not understand.

Our interests, however slight, are infinitely more valuable than every communist unfortunately breathing air. I only regret we didn't eradicate them half a century ago when our people used to know how to properly handle the communist/socialist.


Might you have any disclosures to make ?
How much might you personally profit from a war ?
Maybe it's a : 'start a war, win an election' thing ?


Very little. My defense stocks are doing quite well though.

Has nothing to do with winning an election, and everything to do with securing our republic by advocating for the total destruction of communism, socialism, communists and socialists.


Maybe you just like having other people commit murder for you ?
Why are you constantly inciting violence and murder ?


It doesn't have to be other people. All it would take is an executive order or the like.

Again, not inciting violence and murder merely responding to the threat of communism which is far more insidious and dangerous than that which you mention. It is self-defense by a nation. The mere act of being a communist/socialist is an act of violence. Being a communist is a violent act, no different than shooting a firearm or throwing a punch. They are one in the same. Societies are justified defending themselves against this threat by any means neccesary with no limitations.


Is your God involved ?


Negative. My country/Constitution come first. Yes, that flies in the face of my religion but that is OK. Put it this way, if my religion and my country were in conflict with one another - my country would win.

Let me frame it this way: our battle is one of civilization against feral, unclean, violent communists. And should we win this war, the notion of a communist will only existin the past tense.


Holy Shmidszsh !!

Am torn between apologizing for providing a springboard for that vitriol ; or blessing this existence, for showing us how the opposite of Love, can pound at the door ?
Shall we investigate the source ?



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 06:37 AM
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All Lives Matter

even commies'

they are definitely a pain in the rear politically though.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Nothin


So 'commie' lives, are less important than the USA's "global strategic, tactical and economic interests" eh ?
Politics above Human lives ? Really ?


Commie "lives" are worthless. An insect or blade of grass has more value than the communist. The communist is inherently useless, and is a net-loss to any society with the misfortunate of having it within. The communist is sneaky, subversive, invasive. It will lay low in a society until it sees the moment to strike, and then lash out with violence at that which it does not understand.

Our interests, however slight, are infinitely more valuable than every communist unfortunately breathing air. I only regret we didn't eradicate them half a century ago when our people used to know how to properly handle the communist/socialist.


Might you have any disclosures to make ?
How much might you personally profit from a war ?
Maybe it's a : 'start a war, win an election' thing ?


Very little. My defense stocks are doing quite well though.

Has nothing to do with winning an election, and everything to do with securing our republic by advocating for the total destruction of communism, socialism, communists and socialists.


Maybe you just like having other people commit murder for you ?
Why are you constantly inciting violence and murder ?


It doesn't have to be other people. All it would take is an executive order or the like.

Again, not inciting violence and murder merely responding to the threat of communism which is far more insidious and dangerous than that which you mention. It is self-defense by a nation. The mere act of being a communist/socialist is an act of violence. Being a communist is a violent act, no different than shooting a firearm or throwing a punch. They are one in the same. Societies are justified defending themselves against this threat by any means neccesary with no limitations.


Is your God involved ?


Negative. My country/Constitution come first. Yes, that flies in the face of my religion but that is OK. Put it this way, if my religion and my country were in conflict with one another - my country would win.

Let me frame it this way: our battle is one of civilization against feral, unclean, violent communists. And should we win this war, the notion of a communist will only existin the past tense.


Wow, this reminds me of the sort of rambling hate the police usually find written by the perpetrator of mass shootings.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: FatherLukeDuke


Wow, this reminds me of the sort of rambling hate the police usually find written by the perpetrator of mass shootings.


I know it's scary thst there are many people out there completly brainwashed and manipalated by their government. Happens in every country though. Thsts why we still have invasions and wars



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: strongfp

Yeah right... A scam in which the senders send FREE seeds?... Stop trying to cover for your communist comrades... No scammer will send "free seeds" to hundreds of people in two countries... This is a CCP stratagem, and some fools are naive enough to have planted the seeds of invasive species...


Well the senders are the Chinese. Yes you can get free stuff. I am looking at a large inflatable jump castle for my kids that my wife got for free. We also got a few other outdoor inflatable toys like a ball pit with balls. I think she got a few other small items but no CCP invader seeds. I'll keep my eye out though.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

No we have invasions and wars because other countries covet what we've built, and try to steal it or destroy it. We'll call them BETAs. Us, being ALPHAs, don't tolerate it and fire cruise missiles up their rear end for challenging us.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Blah, blah, blah.

Still not denouncing an ideology that kills millions, enslaves tens of millions and contributes to global instability I see?



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: JBurns


No we have invasions and wars because other countries covet what we've built, and try to steal it or destroy it.


What? That's mskes no sense. The American government ( and my own government) invaded Iraq illegally. Completly destroys the country, gave rise to ISIS that med to the deaths of thousands of innocent men, women and children.

And how about Libya? Gaddafi wanted to introduce the gold diner to back African currencies. Basically so they could become free from the dollar. He wanted to protect Africa's natural resources from the west, who were pretty much looting it

As Hilary Clinton's emails show, that's the reason they wanted him dead. And look at Libya now. Just like Iraq, now a hell hole where thousands of innocent people have died and gave rise to terrorists and factions.

And how about Yemen!

LINK


A team of United Nations investigators, commissioned by the UN Human Rights Council, presented a devastating report in Geneva in early September detailing how the US, along with Britain and France, are likely complicit in war crimes in Yemen because of continued weapons sales and intelligence support to the Saudis and their allies, especially the United Arab Emirates.


But people like you turn a blind eye, or go further and say it's Gods work. Excuse after excuse, but never willing to hold your hands up, it will still point fingers at other countries because you are so brainwashed and conditioned, you cannot see it any other way.


We'll call them BETAs. Us, being ALPHAs, don't tolerate it and fire cruise missiles up their rear end for challenging us.


What is wrong with you? Seriously? Can you not see how wrong you are? Are you that far gone that you just ignore it, or you just refuse to see it.

You are part of the religous group thst worship a trump lime a living God. It is not a coincidence that alot of his extreme followers are mainly, if not all of them religous.

People like you are so easily manipalated.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Blah, blah, blah.

Still not denouncing an ideology that kills millions, enslaves tens of millions and contributes to global instability I see?


And you still will not hold your hands up to the horrors your government has done.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Blah, blah, blah.

Still not denouncing an ideology that kills millions, enslaves tens of millions and contributes to global instability I see?


And you still will not hold your hands up to the horrors your government has done.


First off your strawman whataboutism is ridiculously transparent. And more importantly as to your point as it relates - or doesn't relate - to this topic:

Again:







edit on 7/28/2020 by Riffrafter because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: strongfp

It's so poorly run that our most impoverished person living on the street is wealthier than much of the world.



If you believe the propoganda sure.
The main narrative is completely opposite to what Im saying. I think maybe it is you who fell prey to the propaganda.

I think the propaganda is floating the other direction these days. Besides, there's too much experience around me with world travel for me to ignore.

I also happen to know that the majority of homeless Americans do it by choice. It's a lifestyle choice. They can find jobs, go to shelters, get housing and food stamps, utilize any number of charity services, etc. Heck, they can just go roam the mall and drink free water from fountains and fill up on free samples in the food court. All you can eat donuts everyday a donut shop closes. They throw all the unsold donuts away. If someone is waiting around they'll usually give them away. Many of the homeless get around the country well enough too.

The same cannot be said for the majority of the world's impoverished.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns

No we have invasions and wars because other countries covet what we've built, and try to steal it or destroy it. We'll call them BETAs. Us, being ALPHAs, don't tolerate it and fire cruise missiles up their rear end for challenging us.


and our invasions have NOTHING to do with Oil, Drugs or Natural Resources.

Nothing....



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

Blah, blah, blah.

Still not denouncing an ideology that kills millions, enslaves tens of millions and contributes to global instability I see?


And you still will not hold your hands up to the horrors your government has done.


First off your strawman whataboutism is ridiculously transparent. And more importantly as to your point as it relates - or doesn't relate - to this topic:

Again:








Oh really? How is it a straw man? And how does it not relate to what he is saying?

So you think it's ok that some people should say we should kill millions of innocent people, just because their government does bad things, but ignore out own governments bad things?

Please explain?



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Stop attempting to derail the topic of this thread. If you want to talk about Iraq, or any other war make a new thread and stop talking bulls#it already. I have investigated that topic for far longer than you have, so get off your damn high horse and stop talking crap. Get on topic...



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 10:38 PM
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Now it seems that at least people in 7 states have been receiving these mysterious seeds from China.



...
e departments in Washington, Louisiana, Kansas and Virginia have recently issued statements warning residents that the seeds may be invasive or otherwise harmful to local plants or livestock. People in Utah, Arizona and Ohio have also reported receiving the mysterious packages, local news outlets reported.

Some of the packages were labeled as jewelry and may have Chinese writing on them, according to agriculture officials.
...

People in several states mailed unsolicited packets of seeds that may be from China, officials say



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 11:27 PM
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I thought this was about seeds?

ATS has devolved and got so argumentative lately, I mean when a thread about seeds gets this heated.

seeds



posted on Jul, 29 2020 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: Aliquandro
I thought this was about seeds?

ATS has devolved and got so argumentative lately, I mean when a thread about seeds gets this heated.

seeds



It's because the "always trumpers" are getting nervous with the upcoming election.

On topic, it's a bizarre story alright, I'm still hoping for a giant beanstalk to grow up into the heavens.



posted on Jul, 30 2020 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Jay-morris

Stop attempting to derail the topic of this thread. If you want to talk about Iraq, or any other war make a new thread and stop talking bulls#it already. I have investigated that topic for far longer than you have, so get off your damn high horse and stop talking crap. Get on topic...



Obviously you are talking absolute rubbish, and cannot reply to my posts with any intelligence on the matter.

What I have posted on this thread has everything to do eith the subject matter because it brings forward the fact that people like you will believe every BS media story about China, and you eill post bow bad and evil they are, and need to be stopped, while ignoring the horrible things our own governments have done.

If you started a thread about this, you would not last five minutes because off you lack of knowledge, and the fact you are completly brainwashed!

People on this thread have clearly shown thst this is nothing, but you refuse to believe that. I and that says alot about you.



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