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Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

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posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse


Heck, against the west including socialist Britain.


SOCIALIST Britain

Yeah, kinda like America is a democracy
edit on 27-7-2020 by ForteanOrg because: he was falling off his chair laughing and hence his quotation went wrong




posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It's a trap..!!

If people plant them, they will grow into mutant plants and release a virus that will kill everyone..!!

Just kidding..


But then again, I wouldn't put anything past the CCP right now, given their recent track record..lol



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: strongfp




paper and two marbles. Or, it could be yea some strange form of warfare? I know you really want to nuke China and start world War three, but let's be real here...

Oh please... I’ve read many of EUniverse posts and the individual has experience. This person was warned us of what happens under communist rul hi e. You might want to take notice instead of just throwing out some half baked assumption. Maybe you could actually study the history of what has happened under communist rule. You could start with “The Gulag Archipelago”. www.britannica.com...
Meanwhile, China is still a communist force with a large military.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: Aliquandro

Amazon was used as an example, BUT is usually the first market-like place they hail from and you do not need an account to get anything.

Double check everywhere using a "marketplace", including Ebay, Sears (they had third-party sellers last year when I was pricing appliances) Walmart also has third-party. If you shop somewhere online and it has a thrd-party seller marketplace, check any and all of them very thoroughly.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Wow.

Talk about crapping your pants over nothing. Yeah, the seeds are gonna turn us commie, ooooo. Just because a poster posted it, doesn't make it remotely true. We've got plenty of half baked, gonzo-level posters, what's one more half-baked claim to the pile anyway?
You'd benefit from taking your own advice about not tossing those out.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Vasa Croe



Yeah, like you leftists, this Chinese source claims "it's all Trump's fault" but they have been talking about this for many years, decades actually, and that eventually that war would start.

China is not North Korea.


See, this is what people like you do not understand. Bow would a war they could never win benafit China? China's economy is based on trade with the West, esp with America.

So please explain why China would go to war with America? If anything, a war with China would benafit America more.

Seriously, stop talking nonsense.


Well: for one thing: China doesn't have to use going to war as a pre-election political tactic, like some other nations may be want to do ...



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
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Again, for the Nth time, we need to go into total war mode and surprise attack the commies. It's us or them, we either let them sneakily attack us in their terms or we eliminate them on ours. We can't let them get anywhere near an equal footing, no military technologically or economically


Good ATS readers : ask yourselves why 'someone' would come on public forums, beating the war-drums, and trying to influence you ?



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Thanks Jordan Peterson. I'll go re-read the hashed together near fiction account of prison camps in Stalin's USSR, written by an anti Semitic Russian nationalist, who held deep resentment for Stalin's Kulak culling... no biased there, nope.

We all know gulags existed, we all know the industrial revolution also had child labor, and entire blocks of families were working in the same factory down the road for near slave wages, for not even committing a crime. What's your point?
edit on 27-7-2020 by strongfp because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Oh please... I’ve read many of EUniverse posts and the individual has experience. This person was warned us of what happens under communist rul hi e. You might want to take notice instead of just throwing out some half baked assumption. Maybe you could actually study the history of what has happened under communist rule. You could start with “The Gulag Archipelago”. www.britannica.com...
Meanwhile, China is still a communist force with a large military.

Oh come on! It's not the first, and will not be the last BS thread he makes.

Please answer me this. Was it not evil what the American government done in Iraq and Libya, where thousands of innocent people lost their lives. Is it not evil the involvement the American government in Yemen, where again thousands of innocent people have lost their lives?

Now, before you call me a communist or a Chinese spy, I want to make something clear. I do not lime the CCP. They have done, and still do terrible things.

But what I cannot stand are people who completly ignore their own governments horrors, while pointing their finger at other governments.

You are brainwashed, and that is how you have been conditioned to act. Most people are like this, no matter what country they are from.

Blinded by patrioism means governments can get away with doing horrible things, including yours most probably.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: JBurns
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Again, for the Nth time, we need to go into total war mode and surprise attack the commies. It's us or them, we either let them sneakily attack us in their terms or we eliminate them on ours. We can't let them get anywhere near an equal footing, no military technologically or economically


Good ATS readers : ask yourselves why 'someone' would come on public forums, beating the war-drums, and trying to influence you ?


Oh boy, a resident china apologist.

I'm beating the war drums because the sneaky chinese intend to do us harm and challenge our global strategic, tactical and economic interests. We hold all the cards, don't need a better reason that that.

It's past time to put china back in it's place. And if we can do that while cooking some commies then that's just an added bonus.

I can say for certain chinas missiles would never touch US soil. We have the ability to fight and win a nuclear war, and our kill vehicles would eliminate the communists before they could even react



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Nothin

They won't go to war because they have no ability to project power outside its borders.

Same reason they're communists instead of a real country with a real government based on a real ideology. Pretty simple really.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I thought this was a weird story when I read it here and forgot about it the same day.

Until today when I received some weird looking seeds from china that I did not order.

The package is even labeled wrong. It says that it's a ring. Not a bunch of seeds.

I'm going to plant it in a pot and see what it is. I'll update here once it grows.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

Ironic since it was, and have always been people like you whom ignored the fact that it was Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations whom kept attacking civilians. Those American soldiers who have done wrong in Iraq, Afghanistan have been punished, and they don't speak for the whole Armed Forces of the U.S...

I wonder why tribes in Iraq, and other parts of the Middle East grouped with the U.S. military to stop Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations in the Middle East?...


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Dressed in black and waving al Qaeda flags, Islamist insurgents battled tribesmen for control of the Iraqi city of Ramadi on Friday, while in Fallujah they grabbed loudspeakers after weekly prayers to call for support.
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The late Thursday agreement, if it holds, is likely to draw comparisons to a decision by local tribes in 2006 to join forces with U.S. troops and rise up against al Qaeda forces who seized control of most of Iraq's Sunni areas after the 2003 U.S. invasion.
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“There is no way to let al Qaeda keep any foothold in Anbar,” said one tribal leader, who asked not to be named. “The battle is fierce and not easy because they are hiding inside residential areas.”
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Iraq army, tribes join forces against al Qaeda

But I digress, try and keep on topic instead of making up BS about me. i am not the topic of this thread...




edit on 27-7-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris
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You are brainwashed, and that is how you have been conditioned to act. Most people are like this, no matter what country they are from.

Blinded by patrioism means governments can get away with doing horrible things, including yours most probably.



Ironic since it is people like you whom are ignoring that Antifa, BLM, etc have been destroying buildings after looting them, attacking innocent people, murdering innocent people, and causing chaos in democrat hellhole cities.

Unless you have something intelligent to say make your own thread about me if you want... I am not the topic of this thread...



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns

Oh boy, a resident china apologist.


All you get outta that : is that the labels that you want to throw-around, are still stuck to your fingers.



I'm beating the war drums because the sneaky chinese intend to do us harm and challenge our global strategic, tactical and economic interests. We hold all the cards, don't need a better reason that that.

It's past time to put china back in it's place. And if we can do that while cooking some commies then that's just an added bonus.


So 'commie' lives, are less important than the USA's "global strategic, tactical and economic interests" eh ?
Politics above Human lives ? Really ?


I can say for certain chinas missiles would never touch US soil. We have the ability to fight and win a nuclear war, and our kill vehicles would eliminate the communists before they could even react


Might you have any disclosures to make ?
How much might you personally profit from a war ?
Maybe it's a : 'start a war, win an election' thing ?
Maybe you just like having other people commit murder for you ?
Why are you constantly inciting violence and murder ?
Is your God involved ?



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: EverythingsWrong
Seeds are a living thing.
Is it at all possible that a seed can be infected with a virus and on opening the virus is released or upon growing the virus is released.


That was my thought too. The seeds could just be a trojan horse.

You know often in the past I would learn of some new bug or plant pathogen, and it seemed that invariably the source was labeled as being "SE Asia", or thereabouts. Coincidence?



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

It's so poorly run that our most impoverished person living on the street is wealthier than much of the world.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

Working for "near slave wages" by choice is vastly different from being condemned to a gulag for not being a statist zealot.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: Nothin


So 'commie' lives, are less important than the USA's "global strategic, tactical and economic interests" eh ?
Politics above Human lives ? Really ?


Commie "lives" are worthless. An insect or blade of grass has more value than the communist. The communist is inherently useless, and is a net-loss to any society with the misfortunate of having it within. The communist is sneaky, subversive, invasive. It will lay low in a society until it sees the moment to strike, and then lash out with violence at that which it does not understand.

Our interests, however slight, are infinitely more valuable than every communist unfortunately breathing air. I only regret we didn't eradicate them half a century ago when our people used to know how to properly handle the communist/socialist.


Might you have any disclosures to make ?
How much might you personally profit from a war ?
Maybe it's a : 'start a war, win an election' thing ?


Very little. My defense stocks are doing quite well though.

Has nothing to do with winning an election, and everything to do with securing our republic by advocating for the total destruction of communism, socialism, communists and socialists.


Maybe you just like having other people commit murder for you ?
Why are you constantly inciting violence and murder ?


It doesn't have to be other people. All it would take is an executive order or the like.

Again, not inciting violence and murder merely responding to the threat of communism which is far more insidious and dangerous than that which you mention. It is self-defense by a nation. The mere act of being a communist/socialist is an act of violence. Being a communist is a violent act, no different than shooting a firearm or throwing a punch. They are one in the same. Societies are justified defending themselves against this threat by any means neccesary with no limitations.


Is your God involved ?


Negative. My country/Constitution come first. Yes, that flies in the face of my religion but that is OK. Put it this way, if my religion and my country were in conflict with one another - my country would win.

Let me frame it this way: our battle is one of civilization against feral, unclean, violent communists. And should we win this war, the notion of a communist will only existin the past tense.
edit on 7/28/2020 by JBurns because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: strongfp

Yeah right... A scam in which the senders send FREE seeds?... Stop trying to cover for your communist comrades... No scammer will send "free seeds" to hundreds of people in two countries... This is a CCP stratagem, and some fools are naive enough to have planted the seeds of invasive species...


I don't think you understood what he was referring to. Its like money laundering, but instead of money, its reputation/ credibility. E-commerce has a paper (or, "e-paper") trail. If you want to make it look like you've fulfilled a bunch of orders, you need to actually ship something to someone.

They may not even be after reviews but that's the easy part. Thousands of burner email accounts to go with their thousands of orders. The order shows they shipped a TV, or a pair of skates, or a meat-grinder for processung dogs into sausages - whatever their filthy, scammy, communist hearts desire.

But remember, in this scenario, they're just building credibility. When you're oaying $39 for a piece of crap "fitness tracker" that costs $0.24 to produce and ship, do you want to pay it to a seller with 12,000 verified orders fulfilled and 11,000 5-star reviews (all written as if they were run thru 14 different languages on Google Translate), or from some new seller with 5 orders fulfilled and a 3-star average?

This isn't necessarily what was going on with these seed shipments, but to not pick up on the idea he was putting out there and jump to accusations of communist sympathizer is shockingly ridiculous and ignorant.

That aside, I see this as a possibility - it is known that China has massive fake review and fake orders-fulfilled operations. They take great pride in "tricking" people. In a society with no honor, using dishonorable tactics is not only acceptable, its applauded.

I'll consider this a possibility for the seed shipments, but certainly not the only possibility. The first thing I thought of is they're GMO seeds which will cross with ecologically important food plants, rendering them and future generations of the crop susceptible to disease, or with diminished yields, or toxic to pollinators.

It shouldn't be difficult to analyze the seeds to determine exactly what they are. The genome shoukd be able to quickly be sequenced by many university research labs. If it turns out they are harmful in any way, each seed sent should be treated as an act of biological warfare and responded to in kind.

If it is anything of the sort, we should make the assumption that the Wuhan Coronavirus is a purposeful act of biological warfare as well. China should then be responsible for all of the lives lost, health damaged, and economic costs. In short, China will likely need to sell every square foot of land, and all physical assets to pay their debt to the world, effectively ceasing to exist as a nation.

I believe the Chinese people should be given the opportunity to organize their own democracy / democracies if split into multiple nations, and should be held to a very high standard of human rights, fair and equitable business practices, and of course, paying taxes to the people of the nations affected by their biological war and intellectual property thefts intil all debts are considered settled.

I might be being ridiculous, but I,'m 100% serious.



posted on Jul, 28 2020 @ 02:00 AM
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originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: strongfp

It's so poorly run that our most impoverished person living on the street is wealthier than much of the world.



If you believe the propoganda sure.




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