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WuhanFlu ---- Kentucky couple put on house arrest with ankle monitors....

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posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
I have had it and I am on every risk factor, old, overweight, late stage Lyme and on and on and I am fine like all the others i know that have had it.Not many other things going round that cause you to loss your sense of smell and taste for days. it is NOT a death sentience in fact we have had some way worse flues in the past without all of this.
If you cannot see there is a plan well

Weird
you had it and survived?
I was told it was 100% lethal
I guess its all over then. man do I have egg on my face
I imagine once they find out you survived Covid, the world will be shocked and we will usher in a new era of happiness and accountability.


Was that being sarcastic?




posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
Even if it could be argued legal it has never been policy for any health authority to seize people when acceptable self-quarantine is possible.

The states have the right
I have posted the wording repeatedly.
Not my problem if you don't like it. Call your congressmen to have it changed I guess
I am just posting what rights they have.

It actually doesn't even have wording requiring someone to be sick, just that they can take whatever measures they desire to protect the public in a health crysis. If you want to get technical, the wording is soo loose that states could go full dystopian hellscape every flu season, so luckily they seem overall reasonable.


You posted a few general paragraphs and 0 laws. I'd ask you to post real sources, but we know where that goes.

WRONG. For example in Washington.

WAC 246-100-040



(1) At his or her sole discretion, a local health officer may issue an emergency detention order causing a person or group of persons to be immediately detained for purposes of isolation or quarantine in accordance with subsection (3) of this section, or may petition the superior court ex parte for an order to take the person or group of persons into involuntary detention for purposes of isolation or quarantine in accordance with subsection (4) of this section, provided that he or she:

(a)Has first made reasonable efforts which shall be documented, to obtain voluntary compliance with requests for medical examination, testing, treatment, counseling, vaccination, decontamination of persons or animals, isolation, quarantine, and inspection and closure of facilities, or has determined in his or her professional judgment that seeking voluntary compliance would create a risk of serious harm; and



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Xtrozero

Shame they aren't familiar with GPS spoofing


Anyone with 300 bucks and an hour or so of spare time can learn how to do it


Well until their GPS has SAASM and then they are screwed



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe
It was in the link you provided.

"Linscott tested positive, although she is asymptomatic."


All it means is that the person has the virus and therefore a carrier, but won't get symptoms of fever, headaches, nausea, dry cough... etc etc etc whatever the new symptom of the week is.


Not the prettiest example but here you go...

Example: a person that has herpes may not or have had a flare up in years thanks to medications. they're still a carrier as that virus will always be. So the patient can still pass it on to another person if precautions aren't taking place.

This couple decided not to sign the paper because of the way it was worded. That's their right, I don't give a damn what the state decided was constitutional. This is an arrest! Their rights as non-criminals were taken from them. And the Sheriff is an ass for not protecting and serving law abiding citizens.

Dear Andy Beshear, Hardin County Health Department and Sheriff John Ward!

edit on 20/7/20 by argentus because: removed a couple of platoons of bird fingers.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

Once again, it doesn't matter
they could have decided not signing was enough to warrant more forced measures
again, states rights as authorized by the constitution of the US

You may not like it, but it is what it is.


I believe you might be only partially correct, not black and white as your words suggest...When was the last time the supreme court ruled 100% on anything.. There becomes a point of over stepping and then that goes to court.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

This unfortunate woman thought she was doing the right thing.
And is now imprisoned in her home, along with her husband.


Is it better that she was unaware and spreading it?
If she just disagreed with wording I would be agreeing with you however she was a carrier.

First they came for those infected with coronavirus...


OK, let's put it this way for you, since you seem to be among those who are cautiously approving of government overreach when dealing with this *ahem* "pandemic."

When the government takes heavy handed action like this, they cause your side far more consternation and damage than not... why is this? Simple, who in their right mind would go and get tested for COVID, absent symptoms, if they know that throwing a positive test WILL upend their entire life and remove them from being in control of their own decisions, movements, and actions, replacing self choice with government edicts? Who would put themselves through that Unconstitutional nightmare? In other words, if these stories become more common, a LOT fewer people will go get tested and those not getting tested represent people who would likely have been extremely careful and mindful, likely even self quarantining, had they been tested and told it was positive... but they don't wish to totally surrender their basic human Right of choice over self.


I'm sorry sir, testing is now mandatory in the US, report to your nearest testing station and register. This is your final warning.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: drussell41

originally posted by: Boadicea
Not one of these people can find out if they tested positive for the antibodies or for the virus... and are being told they have no "right" to the specifics of the testing because they did not pay for it.

This does not bode well to me.


Why on earth would they want to withhold that information? This makes no sense. Any guesses?

And "no right" to information about the test?

So, like, was it even a real test?


They are waiting to say Pos or Neg depending on when the numbers are supposed to rise.


Surely this thing isn't that coordinated, is it?



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

Thank you.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: panoz77


I'm sorry sir, testing is now mandatory in the US, report to your nearest testing station and register. This is your final warning.


And then, when you get a false positive and they put you in a room or building with people who genuinely have it, they kill you via the virus.

A university hospital did something along these lines with me and MRSA. These bastards really do not care if they kill you.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: SaturnFX

That guy is very likely suffering from many many health problems look at him he is what 400 lbs? Most People who have died (of) Covid die of many other health problems no covid which is likely in all of our systems.


Not sure if you have seen the global mortality rate spike to crazy high numbers these past several months when compared to any other year out there....something is killing people at crazy high rates.

HAARP???
Aliens?
Give me something to work with...A different thread someone suggesting quarantine was globally making everyone murder their spouse or something which accounted for the heavy spike in people dying..that your angle also? a ten thousand fold spike in domestic murder covered up as covid patients?


Have you deeply investigated the numbers? I am not saying there is no virus and clearly there is more than one thing happening here. Clearly you trust the governments of the world CDC, WHO and I do not.
Things do not add up. In our large county with everyone not wearing masks but in places that require like Walmart we have had zero deaths.



CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through April 4, 2020, there have been:
USA 39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses
www.cdc.gov...



The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths.

www.medscape.com...



Coronavirus Cases:
14,802,959
view by country
Deaths:
611,788
Recovered:
8,827,688

www.worldometers.info...?



Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.

The new figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other groups were published Dec. 13 in The Lancet medical journal.

www.medicinenet.com...
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posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

The only way these house arrest laws can be legally permitted is if the Covid19 becomes over run and threatens national security. This would involve the evacuation of government officials and so much more. We're not there, nore will be.

This is absolutely an abuse of authority. 😠😠😠😠

So help me God if Child Services show up an take that child to the hospital to serve out it's quarantine in a bubble though she is fine and needs to be with mom.

God Fricking Damnit this is making me angry!

(Breathe in through the nose.... exhales slowly)

Bigburgh from Pittsburgh 😥😥😥😥
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posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah
Take no tests and don't volunteer for s#.


in a nutshell. don't make it too easy for them.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: drussell41

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: drussell41

originally posted by: Boadicea
Not one of these people can find out if they tested positive for the antibodies or for the virus... and are being told they have no "right" to the specifics of the testing because they did not pay for it.

This does not bode well to me.


Why on earth would they want to withhold that information? This makes no sense. Any guesses?

And "no right" to information about the test?

So, like, was it even a real test?


They are waiting to say Pos or Neg depending on when the numbers are supposed to rise.


Surely this thing isn't that coordinated, is it?

I think it is actually. For instance what do you get if you put Covid cases in a rest home? Higher numbers.
Looking to good? Do way more testing sounds so bad when the numbers suddenly increase.
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posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Bigburgh




All it means is that the person has the virus and therefore a carrier, but won't get symptoms of fever, headaches, nausea, dry cough... etc etc etc whatever the new symptom of the week is.


Blue toes!





Thread on communist subversion via stoking racial tension since 1928:

1.

Communist Revolution In America divided into 2 phases:
-Violent & Non-violent
-Violent phase to stoke chaos, anarchy & government crisis
-Non-violent phase most important & done under banner of socialism.

video
edit on 20-7-2020 by SeaWorthy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
Even if it could be argued legal it has never been policy for any health authority to seize people when acceptable self-quarantine is possible.

The states have the right
I have posted the wording repeatedly.
Not my problem if you don't like it. Call your congressmen to have it changed I guess
I am just posting what rights they have.

It actually doesn't even have wording requiring someone to be sick, just that they can take whatever measures they desire to protect the public in a health crysis. If you want to get technical, the wording is soo loose that states could go full dystopian hellscape every flu season, so luckily they seem overall reasonable.


You posted a few general paragraphs and 0 laws. I'd ask you to post real sources, but we know where that goes.

WRONG. For example in Washington.

WAC 246-100-040



(1) At his or her sole discretion, a local health officer may issue an emergency detention order causing a person or group of persons to be immediately detained for purposes of isolation or quarantine in accordance with subsection (3) of this section, or may petition the superior court ex parte for an order to take the person or group of persons into involuntary detention for purposes of isolation or quarantine in accordance with subsection (4) of this section, provided that he or she:

(a)Has first made reasonable efforts which shall be documented, to obtain voluntary compliance with requests for medical examination, testing, treatment, counseling, vaccination, decontamination of persons or animals, isolation, quarantine, and inspection and closure of facilities, or has determined in his or her professional judgment that seeking voluntary compliance would create a risk of serious harm; and

which is what happened here
hey, congrats on all your stars though, you aren't the only one ignorant of the law and so are demanding an echo chamber.
that and about 2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee when it comes to how things actually work though.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: SaturnFX

Once again, it doesn't matter
they could have decided not signing was enough to warrant more forced measures
again, states rights as authorized by the constitution of the US

You may not like it, but it is what it is.


I believe you might be only partially correct, not black and white as your words suggest...When was the last time the supreme court ruled 100% on anything.. There becomes a point of over stepping and then that goes to court.

Sure, but this won't be the case
its a global pandemic. government has a lot of rights going on here at this time.
If this was about the common flu, yeah, they might have a sympathetic enough court to say this was a bit extreme, but this ain't that.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: Bigburgh

I'm going to go out on a limb and say these States of Emergencies these tyrannical governors keep signing to go along with their poorly penned EOs are going to say they do have the power.

It's all mucked up to keep us in fear.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 05:59 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy
Have you deeply investigated the numbers?

Yes




I am not saying there is no virus and clearly there is more than one thing happening here. Clearly you trust the governments of the world CDC, WHO and I do not.

You say you don't trust the CDC, then proceed to link a bunch of things referencing the CDC.
You see how that can be a bit inconsistant, don't you?

Now, since you did that (and clearly trust the CDC then...screw the WHO btw, they suck), why not dig deeper and see why the CDC is raising the alarm for this novel coronavirus

I'll give you a hint
the seasonal flu has like 100% penetration into society. Lets take the highest number they have soo far of 650k deaths by the seasonal flu...sure, why not

Coronavirus has about what, a 5-10% if that penetration into society and already hit the highest number of seasonal flu. Imagine how big that number will get when its as widespread as the common flu

Do some math.
keep in mind, this isn't going away...this isn't dying out until fall...its going up and up.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe

This unfortunate woman thought she was doing the right thing.
And is now imprisoned in her home, along with her husband.


Is it better that she was unaware and spreading it?
If she just disagreed with wording I would be agreeing with you however she was a carrier.

First they came for those infected with coronavirus...


OK, let's put it this way for you, since you seem to be among those who are cautiously approving of government overreach when dealing with this *ahem* "pandemic."

When the government takes heavy handed action like this, they cause your side far more consternation and damage than not... why is this? Simple, who in their right mind would go and get tested for COVID, absent symptoms, if they know that throwing a positive test WILL upend their entire life and remove them from being in control of their own decisions, movements, and actions, replacing self choice with government edicts? Who would put themselves through that Unconstitutional nightmare? In other words, if these stories become more common, a LOT fewer people will go get tested and those not getting tested represent people who would likely have been extremely careful and mindful, likely even self quarantining, had they been tested and told it was positive... but they don't wish to totally surrender their basic human Right of choice over self.


I'm sorry sir, testing is now mandatory in the US, report to your nearest testing station and register. This is your final warning.


Will they count the lives of someone who tries that crap on my property as "COVID deaths?"



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
the seasonal flu has like 100% penetration into society.




Yeah, still I am unmoved.



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