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posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: network dude

I never understood how Americans are fine with spending billions for their military spreading misery and death , fine with spending millions so your oversized, overreaching secret services can violate every right of citizens.
But spending a little so people who have disabilities, mental problems, chronical ills can live in dignity?
Hells no! That's where you have to draw a line!


why not find someone who wants to fix the issues you feel are important and help them run for office? Mental illness in this country is treated like a joke, some work needs to be done there. But I'm not sure this forum has the tools to fix it.




posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Well that response was triggered by "they want socialism!"
So the issue is your thinking.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Granby

originally posted by: Metallicus
An armed population won’t be put in camps, however, we must defend our Constitutional rights if we want to keep our freedom. Also, I totally agree with your views on BLM. I have been verbally attacked as a racist for not supporting the Marxist, BLM organization. The fact is we can all support black folk without supporting the destruction of our nation.


hhahahaahah

more tough talk

meanwhile you armed crusaders are cool with citizens being snatched up.

So much for the right not to get scooped up for no reason.

Keep talking loud on the internet.

Stop with the lies and misinformation. It’s already been explained to you once in the other thread you were spouting the same nonsense in. If you think what you say is true then your not paying attention.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:39 AM
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Sorry, but numbers won't back a civil war. There are just not enough blacks or whites that would be willing to fight.
You would have to be a moron to not realize this is a giant psyop.
There is probably a giant think tank perceived threat of people waking up to the unfair treatment of the masses.
The corrupt, non-working, scumbag ruling class are taking a dump in the pool, so you don't notice we are swimming in their pee.
Diverting brexit from becoming govexit
The downside to the information age is truthful information to the controlling groups.
It's all getting so gd boring, I had a good summer planned.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Granby

Lmao. Don't act dense.
They were probably scooping up agents.
The gov is funding and allowing blm.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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Many Democrats want all White People to pay for their Ancestors' "crimes".

And the same Democrats want all the DACA People to get a pass for all their Ancestors' (mostly Parents) "crimes" !

Baffling policies 🤓



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:46 AM
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Many Obama Cages have been removed by the Trump Administration. 😎



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: network dude

Well that response was triggered by "they want socialism!"
So the issue is your thinking.


we have a disconnect in communications.

I have no idea what you mean. This thread is about how segregating us by race is a bad idea.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: network dude




This was a terrible thing. We took a group of people who had done nothing, and only because of their nationality, we put them in prison camps. We segregated them due to their ethnicity and charged them with the sins of others, simply because of where they came from.


It was indeed a terrible thing

Slavery was a terrible thing

I have an Armenian friend that's still pissed about the Armenian genocide - even though it happened to her relatives, not to her. I know someone that has family that was brutalized by Qaddafi - should he let that go?

My grandfather lost his entire family with the exception of one uncle in the pogroms in Ukraine. Every one of my grandparents came through Ellis Island fleeing poverty, war and persecution. All of them from different parts of Europe. They learned to forget and not forget

The list is long. They always say we should never forget - and you want us to forget. Not our monuments, but our actions

People don't forget, families don't forget, each generation remembers

BLM is remembering that what was past still affects the present. I get that you want people of color in this country to stand down, settle down, and calmly and gratefully acknowledge how wonderful everything is now. Except, it isn't equally wonderful for all people

I think your need to play victim is a terrible thing




edit on 7/20/2020 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: network dude

It's all on the line brother!



It can't be anymore clear.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: carsforkids

Yeah..this whole thing is an establishment campaign.

Pick us or the nazis



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




This was a terrible thing. We took a group of people who had done nothing, and only because of their nationality, we put them in prison camps. We segregated them due to their ethnicity and charged them with the sins of others, simply because of where they came from.


It was indeed a terrible thing

Slavery was a terrible thing

I have an Armenian friend that's still pissed about the Armenian genocide - even though it happened to her relatives, not to her. I know someone that's family was brutalized by Qaddafi - should he let that go?

My grandfather lost his entire family with the exception of one uncle in the pogroms in Ukraine. Every one of my grandparents came through Ellis Island fleeing poverty, war and persecution. All of them from different parts of Europe. They learned to forget and not forget

The list is long. They always say we should never forget - and you want us to forget. Not our monuments, but our actions

People don't forget, families don't forget, each generation remembers

BLM is remembering that what was past still affects the present. I get that you want people of color in this country to stand down, settle down, and calmly and gratefully acknowledge how wonderful everything is now. Except, it isn't equally wonderful for all people

I think your need to play victim is a terrible thing





how much would it take to erase the pain and anguish some folks from the 1800's caused? I can write a check or something, but I have to know the amount and who to make it out to. Oh, and I will need some kind of guarantee that this payment clears me of all the sins of whomever owned slaves.

You don't need to break it down, just give me the total.
edit on 20-7-2020 by network dude because: ?



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Those interments were overseen by the father of the modern Democrat party, FDR... the same FDR who was also the original champion of the Kept Voter welfare state.

Everything evil the Democrats accuse conservatives of are essentially their own sins, clumsily projected onto the GOP. Slavery? A Democrat institution before the Civil War... the KKK? The militaristic arm of the Democrat Party... Interring inconvenient opponents? Has only been done by Democrats... War? Far more American involvement in wars have been started by Democrats, including WW2, Korea, and Vietnam... Collusion with foreign enemies? Clinton & China, Obama and the Ukraine, Obama meddling in Israeli elections... the list is endless.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: network dude




how much would it take to erase the pain and anguish some folks from the 1800's caused? I can write a check or something, but I have to know the amount and who to make it out to. Oh, and I will need some kind of guarantee that this payment clears me of all the sins of whomever owned slaves.

You don't need to break it down, just give me the total.


You obviously don't understand what your own thread is about

It's your OP - if you think you can defend it with flippant sarcasm you're wrong

edit on 7/20/2020 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude




how much would it take to erase the pain and anguish some folks from the 1800's caused? I can write a check or something, but I have to know the amount and who to make it out to. Oh, and I will need some kind of guarantee that this payment clears me of all the sins of whomever owned slaves.

You don't need to break it down, just give me the total.


You obviously don't understand what your own thread is about

It's your OP - if you think you can defend it with flippant sarcasm you're wrong


LOL, come at be bro! LOL!!!

Look, you obviously have a hard on for opposing me, no matter the topic. So here goes:




BLM is remembering that what was past still affects the present. I get that you want people of color in this country to stand down, settle down, and calmly and gratefully acknowledge how wonderful everything is now. Except, it isn't equally wonderful for all people


First off, you know zero about me, so stuff your self riotous holier than thou attitude in the trash.
Second, BLM has been hijacked. Their initial meaning (as told by those who were interviewed) was to highlight police violence against Black people. About 4 seconds after the Floyd video was released, the entire world was behind them. We (the collective US) would have done anything that made sense to wright this obvious wrong. And for once, people were admitting there is a problem, although not all cops are bad, just like not all people who are leftists are dumb.

But currently, at BLM protests, there is an element of chaos. Pasty face white kids ate up with SJWism, feel they need to burn sh!t and break sh!t to help the cause. (I don't believe that, I think they are trying to dismantle the system in a big hurry) BLM's message turned into "get rid of the police", and while they were screaming that, asshole lefties were trying like hell to explain that what they really mean is something totally different. Defund the police doesn't mean "defund the police" at all.

And now, on to your last point. It seems everyone is aware that racism is a real issue, and it needs to go the way of the dodo. Some of us realize that anyone can be racist. And society as a whole has been moving towards that mindset as a toxic one and something that should be pointed to, ridiculed and removed from our sight. It won't happen over night, but it has made huge strides compared to the actions of the past. So I don't see the wholesale destruction of the US as a viable option to fix racism.

And I live my life trying not to be a racist, I taught my kids not to be racist, and I sure as hell don't need someone who knows nothing about me trying to force some label on me because of history. I am responsible for my actions, just as everyone else is responsible for theirs. If the SJW's would spend a bit more time correcting their own issues, they might realize that trying to manufacture hatred is a piss poor idea.

Have a super day!
edit on 20-7-2020 by network dude because:




posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis




if you think you can defend it with flippant sarcasm you're wrong

Well how bout this then ?

How in the hell does anyone living in today's freedom loving
not by any means perfect America. But certainly the very best
mankind has ever offered this screwed up evil world. With all
the comforts of modern day living available to everyone's
finger tips. How can anyone take the sufferings of past lives
no matter how they are related. How do you equate their
personal sufferings into something your honey suckled candy
ass can use to bitch about. And then try justify your silly stupid
self victimization avenue toward socialism and the destruction of
all that comforts you? Nobody asked you to forget a damn thing.

In fact why don't you remember your people with pride and honor.
Instead of hate filled bitchy little violent tantrums.

Now how bout that? lol



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: network dude



Look, you obviously have a hard on for opposing me, no matter the topic. So here goes:

You starts a thread - you takes your chances. You and I see the world differently. I know you're feeling put upon, but since you always seem to defend the idea that people have a right to express their opinion - you are welcome to mine


First off, you know zero about me, so stuff your self riotous holier than thou attitude in the trash.

I don't need to know anything about you to disagree with what you wrote. I'm usually just playing off your self righteous attitude - but I get that I offend you


Second, BLM has been hijacked.

By the communists? Yes, the easy, lazy target. It's a racial shell game - now you can attack BLM and not have to be involved with any messy opposition to a group of black people. In fact - you can say how righteous they were! In the beginning, when they were allowed to be right about the death of one man

But, BLM isn't about the death of one man. Your thread is about history - and why can't we let it go? BLM threw a wrench into the status quo a few years ago - this isn't at all new


But currently, at BLM protests, there is an element of chaos. Pasty face white kids ate up with SJWism, feel they need to burn sh!t and break sh!t to help the cause.

Who Were the Freedom Riders?

You think it's wrong for pasty white kids to see what's at stake here?

The rioters are being dealt with. They knew what they were doing. Some of them wrong for the right reasons - some just hell bent on destruction. The protests have been mostly peaceful



And I live my life trying not to be a racist, I taught my kids not to be racist, and I sure as hell don't need someone who knows nothing about me trying to force some label on me because of history.

Did I call you a racist? No. I said you were wrong to paint yourself as a victim. Among other things


If the SJW's would spend a bit more time correcting their own issues, they might realize that trying to manufacture hatred is a piss poor idea.


It's a shame you can't see this for what it is. No doubt you will be all in when they do whatever is necessary to bring these kids to heel

LAW AND ORDER!

You have a nice day too dude


edit on 7/20/2020 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Spiramirabilis




if you think you can defend it with flippant sarcasm you're wrong

Well how bout this then ?

How in the hell does anyone living in today's freedom loving
not by any means perfect America. But certainly the very best
mankind has ever offered this screwed up evil world. With all
the comforts of modern day living available to everyone's
finger tips. How can anyone take the sufferings of past lives
no matter how they are related. How do you equate their
personal sufferings into something your honey suckled candy
ass can use to bitch about. And then try justify your silly stupid
self victimization avenue toward socialism and the destruction of
all that comforts you? Nobody asked you to forget a damn thing.

In fact why don't you remember your people with pride and honor.
Instead of hate filled bitchy little violent tantrums.

Now how bout that? lol


Wow

Now - that was a bitchy tantrum

Apparently I got on that last nerve of yours


Things are so nice and comfy here for everyone? We should all just shut up and not complain?

Bringing up the past really does mess with some people. The past is hard to argue with. Best we just let it go?



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

wrong for the right reasons. Like tearing down art in the dead of night.
It's only a little vandalism. It's not like any "real" laws were broken.

Maybe one day, someone will explain it to you in words you can understand, till then,
TTFN.


And I was speaking of the current movement to demonize white people as being racist due to the sins of the long dead.
But since you want it to all revolve around you, I can see how you would go that route.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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And I was speaking of the current movement to demonize white people as being racist due to the sins of the long dead.


This is the closest you've gotten to being in a real discussion. If you're up for it - so am I




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