It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Federal judge working on Deutche Bank case regarding Epstein attacked. Son killed

page: 3
42
<< 1  2    4  5 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 12:58 PM
link   

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: hangedman13
Considering how much shady crap has gone on with anything Epstien, I am not willing to drop this shooting as connected. Too much of a coincidence for me. Yes, the husband being a defense attorney adds a wrinkle to that theory. That wrinkle is as unproven as it being connected to his wife case. I mean at this point we all expected something to happen to Maxwell, that would be a stretch to pull off now wouldn't it? What better way to throw a wrench in the works? Intimidate a judge and if you want the conspiracy to that....Judge shopping. Trying to get the evidence looked at by a "friendly" judge. Lets face it anything dealing with Epstien is high profile and has the potential to incriminate lots of powerful people.


The dead suspect was apparently a attorney also, and had a case with Salas in 2015.


2015 seems like an aweful long time to "settle a score" by murder. Doesn't add up at all.




posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:11 PM
link   
a reply to: TXRabbit

If she back's off now her son has died in vain, she has to forge ahead and bring his killers or at least the interests that funded them to justice one way or another.

May God keep her safe and make her husband well, they will grieve for there son but if they don't get him - and the other victim's of these people of whom he is just the latest - justice then that grieving will be all the more bitter.

Whoever did this, whatever agency foreign or domestic is behind this hit has made a serious mistake, they intended to send a message saying we can get you no matter who you are but instead they have sent a declaration of war upon justice and shown a willingness to hide the sin's of evil men with bloody hand's burying them under a mound of innocent bodies.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:29 PM
link   
And you would think the Fed Ex driver would know his target was an older female judge and not a young man. This was an obvious hit job by a hired amateur who failed and was hit himself to close the loop. Seth Rich style.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:34 PM
link   

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Suspect is dead of suicide by gunshot wound....*shocked face


Apparently he was a attorney who had a case under the judge in 2015. No name yet.

Convenient suicide again...


This is actually true!!!!
I assumed it was a joke.

edition.cnn.com...

Why bother wearing a disguise?
Obviously the guy thought he wasn't going to be committing suicide that week.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:37 PM
link   

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Suspect is dead of suicide by gunshot wound....*shocked face


Apparently he was a attorney who had a case under the judge in 2015. No name yet.

Convenient suicide again...


This is actually true!!!!
I assumed it was a joke.

edition.cnn.com...

Why bother wearing a disguise?
Obviously the guy thought he wasn't going to be committing suicide that week.


I rarely joke here....too many take it seriously.

And my guess is they had a "Ring" type doorbell and Salas would probably recognize him.

My conspiracy mind makes me wonder if this was actually about her husband though. I am not so sure Salas was the intended target.

This guy shot and ran.....if Salas was the target I would think he would have continued inside to find her, or ask for her signature for whatever fake package he was delivering.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:38 PM
link   

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: hangedman13
Considering how much shady crap has gone on with anything Epstien, I am not willing to drop this shooting as connected. Too much of a coincidence for me. Yes, the husband being a defense attorney adds a wrinkle to that theory. That wrinkle is as unproven as it being connected to his wife case. I mean at this point we all expected something to happen to Maxwell, that would be a stretch to pull off now wouldn't it? What better way to throw a wrench in the works? Intimidate a judge and if you want the conspiracy to that....Judge shopping. Trying to get the evidence looked at by a "friendly" judge. Lets face it anything dealing with Epstien is high profile and has the potential to incriminate lots of powerful people.


The dead suspect was apparently a attorney also, and had a case with Salas in 2015.


2015 seems like an aweful long time to "settle a score" by murder. Doesn't add up at all.


It doesn't add up to me either.

I am wondering if the intended target was actually the husband.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:38 PM
link   
Hm, Deutsche Bank, you say?

I wonder if perhaps it may be related to this:

U.S. Maps 1MDB Fraud Trail From Kuala Lumpur to Hollywood

 


Also of interst, to me at least, is this:


Earlier Monday, unidentified officials told ABC News that an attorney who had a case before Salas in 2015 had been found dead near Liberty, New York, of what appeared to be a self-inflicted wound. The news network reported a FedEx package addressed to the judge was also found in the attorney’s vehicle.
emphasis mine

Suspected gunman dead after killing federal judge’s son, injuring her husband, reports say




edit on 20-7-2020 by jadedANDcynical because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:45 PM
link   
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Yeah, it could even be kiddy gangster stuff and they got the right guy.

My tinfoil hat is making me wonder whether Mr Salas was a Anthony Weiner type.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 01:46 PM
link   

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Hm, Deutsche Bank, you say?

I wonder if perhaps it may be related to this:

U.S. Maps 1MDB Fraud Trail From Kuala Lumpur to Hollywood

 


Also of interst, to me at least, is this:


Earlier Monday, unidentified officials told ABC News that an attorney who had a case before Salas in 2015 had been found dead near Liberty, New York, of what appeared to be a self-inflicted wound. The news network reported a FedEx package addressed to the judge was also found in the attorney’s vehicle.
emphasis mine

Suspected gunman dead after killing federal judge’s son, injuring her husband, reports say





The husband that was shot, Mark Anderl, was a TOP sex offender attorney in NJ.

I am betting he was the intended target.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:06 PM
link   

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
The husband that was shot, Mark Anderl, was a TOP sex offender attorney in NJ.

I am betting he was the intended target.


I wonder if he did any work in New Hampshire?



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:33 PM
link   
a reply to: Vasa Croe




Apparently he was a attorney who had a case under the judge in 2015. No name yet.

Where did it say that in any of the posted articles? I have read nothing in any of the links that the shooter was an attorney! We do get the story of how the dead son was going to pursue a career in law,but nothing on the shooter. Let me correct myself here, the ABC article claims he was a attorney. But none of the other sources have made that claim.
edit on 20-7-2020 by hangedman13 because: New info
SO far it is only a claim, based on something that anonymous sources have said. Since it's so early in the investigation that cannot be taken as a fact, yet.
edit on 20-7-2020 by hangedman13 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:38 PM
link   
a reply to: Android86

Yes, check any big city street during the nightly firebombings, mortal attacks, arsons, murders, rioting and looting. You'll find a whole mess of those traitors and spies.

Seems our government is *finally* going to "handle" them though



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:44 PM
link   

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

The husband that was shot, Mark Anderl, was a TOP sex offender attorney in NJ.

I am betting he was the intended target.


From the second link in the article you replied to....


The news network reported a FedEx package addressed to the judge was also found in the attorney’s vehicle.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:46 PM
link   

originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: Vasa Croe




Apparently he was a attorney who had a case under the judge in 2015. No name yet.

Where did it say that in any of the posted articles? I have read nothing in any of the links that the shooter was an attorney! We do get the story of how the dead son was going to pursue a career in law,but nothing on the shooter. Let me correct myself here, the ABC article claims he was a attorney. But none of the other sources have made that claim. SO far it is only a claim, based on something that anonymous sources have said. Since it's so early in the investigation that cannot be taken as a fact, yet.


Keep reading....it will be available soon.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:46 PM
link   
a reply to: JBurns

Please don't feed the trolls.

I respectfully ask all that you NOT make this thread political. There's plenty of toilets on this site for that.
Thank you



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:48 PM
link   

originally posted by: TXRabbit

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

The husband that was shot, Mark Anderl, was a TOP sex offender attorney in NJ.

I am betting he was the intended target.


From the second link in the article you replied to....


The news network reported a FedEx package addressed to the judge was also found in the attorney’s vehicle.


Yeah....I read the package was addressed to the judge. Just not sure the judge was the intended target.

If this was planned in such detail as to have a package addressed to the judge and have a fedex uniform to deliver it in, then, logically, I would think the killer would have entered the home after incapacitating the male threats and take out the target.

Which is why I think the husband may have been the intended target.

I would say since the suspect was a attorney, he possibly had cases with both husband and wife in the area.
edit on 7/20/20 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 02:57 PM
link   
a reply to: Vasa Croe

My guess is that the perp was expecting the judge to answer the door. When it wasn't, and he'd already started shooting, panic-mode set in and he fled.

Another assumption would be that if he was trained to do this, he would have done as you said and finished the job.

I've never killed anybody let alone hurt someone physically so I can't really attest to the emotions or state of mind involved.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:09 PM
link   


Keep reading....it will be available soon.
a reply to: Vasa Croe

As you quoted me after my two revisions, you should realize that I added on that I found the reference. However I have seen it attributed to ABC news when being mentioned. Which in conspiracy terms means very little. Disinformation to draw attention away from the real motive? It is a possibility you must admit. As we are not privy to the investigation we can only speculate on the case with what we are told. Lets face it other than the add on of the shooter being an attorney that had a case before the husband there is no other information about the suspect. I'd be curious after they name the shooter if there was any sudden wind falls he received, that and how he acquired the gun used. Not like getting a hand gun is easy in either NY or NJ, at least not legally.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:09 PM
link   

originally posted by: TXRabbit
a reply to: Vasa Croe

My guess is that the perp was expecting the judge to answer the door. When it wasn't, and he'd already started shooting, panic-mode set in and he fled.

Another assumption would be that if he was trained to do this, he would have done as you said and finished the job.

I've never killed anybody let alone hurt someone physically so I can't really attest to the emotions or state of mind involved.


This is where we may disagree.

He planned this....bouvht or made a FedEx outfit and made a package with her name on it. This is very calculated and took planning to some extent.

He would have known when the door was answered that it wasn't her. As a FedEx delivery type, and with the package addressed to her, he would need her signature.

Now the Ring doorbell may have captured the interaction, but doubt we will ever see it. If he asked for her and a signature then it would make sense she was the target.

If he didn't, then my interest is piqued as to whom the target actually was.

Sure....she is a federal judge, just got handed the Epstein case, blah blah blah.

There is no way this is connected to Epstein unless someone knew well before the case came.....this shooting took planning and a disguise....

I think Salas is the "obvious" story, but the real motive was her husband.



posted on Jul, 20 2020 @ 04:11 PM
link   
Timcast does a good review of it...





top topics



 
42
<< 1  2    4  5 >>

log in

join