Hydroxychloroquine Still Doesn’t Do Anything, New Data Shows

a reply to: TheRedneck

And this is the guy who just tried to chastise me for not being "adult."

Criticizing you for relying on known partisan fronts like the AASP is a matter of fact. We can be adults and hold up acceptable standards at the same time. Otherwise, what's the point of this forum?

I ignore nothing.

I wholeheartedly believe that you think that.

When I heard that, I went out to my shop and tried something. I set up two lenses and tried to see the rings of Saturn during the day. Not sure what the focal length on them was, so I just set them a little ways apart. My experiment failed... I couldn't see anything but blurry sunlight! So I guess you didn't really build a telescope after all, since it's obvious from my experiment that it's not possible.

You understand that people do actually build their own telescopes Redneck? This isn't some hubble sized thing. It's a back yard telescope. I'm a little confused as to how you can doubt this? It really isn't a big deal. Most amatuer astronomers buy already manufactured pieces, like myself. I'm uncertain why you had to go out of your way to disprove this?

I do both. I go to a doctor and get his opinion

Right. My point still stands below.

When I'm sick and I'm uncertain of what to do or what to take, I go see a doctor. Simple. I don't go onto WebMD or whatever else there is on google because I understand that I'm incapable of getting the nuances, subtleties, histories behind certain treatments, symptoms. It would take me days, at the least to, comprehend a fraction of these. Days I do not have, and cannot afford, if I'm sick. So I go see a doctor. Somebody trainined in that specific area. I'm both humble and wise enough to do this.

It's your life though.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

if the American Association of Surgeons and Physicians is a "partisan source" there is nobody left to provide data which we can rely on. Your doctor is likely a member. Mine probably is as well.

So, we discount all surgeons and all physicians and who do we have left? People in government.

You understand that people do actually build their own telescopes Redneck?

Oh... my... GOD!

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OK, you don't get it. Fine. Play your games.

It's your life though.

Exactly. It is up to the patient and doctor to determine the best course of treatment for the patient... not for you, and not for some biased experimenters conducting flawed experiments! No one on this thread has suggested that anyone be required to use any treatment. You have spent 8 pages trying to convince people that they shouldn't use a specific treatment.

How about living your life and not trying to scare everyone else into living ending theirs the way you want them to?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Your doctor is likely a member. Mine probably is as well.

Odds are not.

Membership in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a conservative-libertarian group of private-pay doctors, increases by about 10 percent a year, says Jane Orient, executive director of the organization, which has 5,000 members.

www.reuters.com...

So 8,900 now. Maybe? Out of how many MDs? More than a million? Pretty far from 50:50, I think.

The association has promoted a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Phage

That mob sound more like witch doctors than actual MD's.

a reply to: Phage

Well, that settles it. We can't be listening to any doctors now. They might be conservatives!

Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

TheRedneck

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know medical doctors had to get your approval to be MDs.

Don't worry about it though. Phage doesn't think we should listen to them anyway.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Thanks for missing the point.
As usual.

Chances are, your doctor is not a member of the AAPS. Lucky you. And me.

a reply to: Phage

Are you sure? My doctor is a physician.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Do you know what the word "chances" means. It has to do with probabilities. AAPS seems to be a pretty small organization.


Of course, you could always ask him.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know medical doctors had to get your approval to be MDs.

Don't worry about it though. Phage doesn't think we should listen to them anyway.

TheRedneck

I'm not going to listen to medical advice from doctors that are clearly anti science, if you want to that's your choice.

a reply to: Phage

Do you know what the word "chances" means.

I know what the word "physician" means.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

How about the word "Association?"
It means "Club", in this case. Be sure to ask your doctor if he's (or she) is a member of that one.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I'm not going to listen to medical advice from doctors that are clearly anti science

What makes it so funny is that you probably think that makes sense...

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

More smilies!

They are awesome when logic fails.

a reply to: Phage

How about the word "Association?"
It means "Club."

You mean like a big stick?

I did not know that.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

You mean like a big stick?

No. More like a cult.

a reply to: Phage

More smilies!

They are awesome when logic fails.

I agree. That's why I am using them in this thread.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yes.
When you cannot provide logic...more smilies!

a reply to: Phage

No. More like a cult.

Oh. So now doctors (physicians) are both anti-science and members of a cult.

Yeah, smileys are definitely appropriate.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

So now doctors (physicians) are both anti-science and members of a cult.

Not all of them.
But a very tiny minority, quite probably.
Those AAPS type.