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George Floyd Transcripts Released

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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: KnoxMSP
a reply to: charlyv

How many in/lb of force were exerted on his neck? You seem to know something I don't. I have been restrained that way as a young man in my wild days, if the officer was literally kneeling on my neck full force my face would have been smashed into the pavement.


I am merely stating an obvious fact.
The only 2 people that know how much force that was are the two of them... and one is dead.
How is the force going to be proved? Who knows.




posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: panoz77

That does not explain the knee on his neck.


It absolutely does, there is now evidence that he was in high stress and distress and couldn't breath before a knee was anywhere near him or his neck, it could now be argued that the officers knee was not restricting blood to the brain or to his airway (as he was talking the entire time a knee was on his neck). It now offers a valid defense that Floyd did from drug related breathing issues not related to a knee on his neck.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: panoz77




it could now be argued that the officers knee was not restricting blood to the brain

That could always be argued. It doesn't change what is readily apparent.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: KnoxMSP
a reply to: panoz77

Yea, they all seemed really remorseful. Not at all like men out to kill Mr. Floyd. Sad situation all around, but I think the original coroner had it right after all.


They seemed more than accommodating to Floyd for a LONG time, going out of their way to try and get him to comply peacefully, Floyd resisted the entire time. The officers were EXTREMELY patient with him, as shown in the transcript.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: panoz77

So he pissed them off.

Ok, no problem then.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: panoz77

So be it then. The whole case is the knee, and if it was necessary.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: panoz77

So be it then. The whole case is the knee, and if it was necessary.


No, the whole case is was it the knee that was the direct cause of his death i.e. Second degree murder, a contributing cause i.e. maybe negligent manslaughter/homicide or not a contributing factor at all? I think the officers were overcharged, and they will be found not guilty of second degree murder. Not sure if a lesser charge can be adjudicated if the charge is murder 2.
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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: panoz77

So be it then. The whole case is the knee, and if it was necessary.


No, the whole case is was it the knee that was the direct cause of his death i.e. Second degree murder, a contributing cause i.e. maybe negligent manslaughter/homicide or not a contributing factor at all? I think the officers were overcharged, and they will be found not guilty of second degree murder. Not sure if a lesser charge can be adjudicated if the charge is murder 2.


Holy # , we are saying the same thing. Cut it out.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555
I think it matters that he was already having breathing problems as a result of drug use which may have been the actual cause of death, rather than the idea that the officer was applying his full body weight to his neck. If the knee didn't cause the death, I'm pretty sure that matters.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: notquiteright

So, he wasn't in distress? He did not express this?
The officer took measures to relieve this? Even slight measures?

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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:56 PM
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After reading the transcript in full,
I honestly believe that from Floyd's previous interactions with the police, being shot, and for being pulled over while black, he was legitimately scared.
Sort of reminds me of John Coffee from the green mile.
A big scary looking guy, but honestly scared of his own shadow.

People act weird when they get scared.
And this is a prime example.

OP: I think the hooping comment referred to playing basketball.
Not the alternative.
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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Phage
I didn't say I agree with the officer detaining him on the ground for that long, just that I do think the actual cause of death matters, especially when many factors that possibly led to his death were self inflicted.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: panoz77




it could now be argued that the officers knee was not restricting blood to the brain

That could always be argued. It doesn't change what is readily apparent.

Apparent is in the "eyes of the beholder"



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: notquiteright

The cause of death matters, yes. As do actions taken which may have exacerbated the situation. His repeatedly said he was in distress.


especially when many factors that possibly led to his death were self inflicted.
This is yet to be determined.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: KnoxMSP


George Floyd , Americas Answer to Horst Wessel . The Dems are Channeling the National Socialist Party of Nazi Germany Day after Day ................



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

You don't see his knee on his neck with enough weight to hold him down? You don't hear him saying he is in distress? Other officer's don't say "maybe turn him on his side?"

That's quite readily apparent. Isn't it?

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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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To think this will change the narrative is epically naive.

People have made up their minds by the obviousness of their actions and they aim to keep the bonfire ablaze for whatever it's worth!!!

Any side of this "argument" is in completely uncharted territory, therefore all this to and fro is entirely fear based!

Pandora's Box has been opened.

Don't think so? Give it another month or two..as Doc said in "Back to the Future", you're going to see some serious snip.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Gothmog

You don't see his knee on his neck with enough weight to hold him down? You don't hear him saying he is in distress? Other officer's don't say "maybe turn him on his side?"

That's quite readily apparent. Isn't it?

Not for us to decide.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

You are correct, sir. As often.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Macenroe82

Definitely a possibility on the "hooping" usage, but due to my background, that is how I took it, when he was asked about foaming mouth, and drug use, and the tox screening showing he had a cocktail of drugs.

Now don't get me wrong I am all for the federal decriminalization of marijuana, it's the hard stuff I have a problem with. I have lost a few people in my life to hard drugs, and came close myself to going overboard at one point.
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