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Seattle Police union leader sounds the alarm - They are coming through the door

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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy



I'm a protester now.

No you're not.
You're a supporter. Obviously.



Yes.

I support law and order.

My bad.




posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

What do driving laws have to do with gun ownership?

Or was that a squirrel?



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Phage


Hmm... Ever hear of Car Jacking ?



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Yes.
What does it have to do with speed limits and other driving laws?
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posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 11:58 PM
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I blame city leaders for how police treat people. They allow law enforcement to get away with bullying people daily. People try to film the police at night, police all over the nation shine flashlights into cameras, you shine a light back, they will claim it's interfering with police investigation. How many times have we seen 8-10 cops show up for person filming out in public. If police departments are willing to waste resources like that, it's time to slash budgets.

Police are nothing but revenue generators for the state.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: a325nt

So says every criminal whom complains about "police brutality..."

Perhaps we should go back to the ways of the old Wild West... See a criminal trying to rape a woman, or trying to rob a bank? Hang the criminal in the closes tree, or light pole...

You asked for it for not wanting the police in New York so you and your buddies can commit all crimes you want...




edit on 12-7-2020 by ElectricUniverse because: add comments.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 02:55 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Didn't say that now did I?

Those laws + speed limits were created during a time when vehicles were far less reliable and with many less safety features.

Seat belts? Same traffic. Using my personal safety as an excuse to conduct a traffic stop which is often used as a pretext for other enforcement activity is a problem. The fact it was passed using lies and false promises is reason enough.

Liberty indeed. Forget about it, get back in line, take your medicine, wear your mask and listen to your life supervisors. While you're at it, why not stretch a 6ft piece of rubber over your head and put on a padded helmet? Safety right? Because protecting YOU from YOURSELF is naturally the business of the government.

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posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns

I participated in a pro-police protest today.

When they held up a sign that said, "Honk If You Support Police". . . . I honked.

I'm a protester now.



The best kind of protestor!


I suppose I have gone all activist myself these days



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Sounds to me like he's protesting police brutality.

You know, brutality harassment and abuse against police officers



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 03:01 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: JBurns


I am with our police no matter what.


Really???

Justine Damon

Daniel Shaver

Tony Timpa

All of the above killings are okay with you?

Police Kill Too Many People—White and Black

How about these???



Those are exceptions to the rule... Black criminals kill more people than all other races together in the U.S. And white officers killing unarmed blacks constitutes about 3% of 0.95% of all homicides committed by whites against blacks in the U.S.

Black criminals on the other hand account for 57.14% of all murders in the U.S. against other blacks...

In case you never took math 57.14% is a much higher number than 3% of 0.95% of homicides committed in the U.S...

Should we defund black criminals?...





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posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 03:13 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Can't let a pesky thing like numbers, objectivity or reality get in the way of a good narrative!

Those darn statistics, always destroying those made up narratives

You are spoiling it

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posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Yeah, apparently some people still don't know that some of the best ways to lower crime in general is to have police officers well trained, and well prepared instead of de-funding them, or even abolishing them...



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 04:07 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: JBurns

So it's just about the numbers? As long as more Black people are killing people, everyone else gets a free pass? Especially cops? Or just cops? Are you aware that you are more likely to be killed by a cop than a stranger? But of course that would never happen, right? Because you'll comply, right???

The bottom line doesn't change with all the numbers you can crunch: Some cops are cruel and sadistic cold-blooded murderers, and you're okay with that. In fact, you're defending it. You actually seem to be good with it -- not just "okay" with it. Okay. Good to know.

I know you think you're oh-so-clever... but murder is murder. All the statistics in the world don't change the reality. Make any excuses you want for the murderers.... and then look around and pat yourself on the back for contributing to even more deaths. Because, no, it's not okay to make excuses for cold-blooded killers. And folks do have a right (and an instinct) to protect their own lives. If this is the best they can do, because of people who make excuses for cold-blooded murder by cops, then this is what they do.

Good job!!!

But don't pretend to be any kind of Constitutionalist or patriot. Because real patriots don't make excuses for murderers. Especially not those hiding behind a government gun.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I disagree with your starting comment. You make it sound as if every cop who kills is automatically free to go.
May I remind you that the cop who started the whole BLM craze has actually been arrested,a waiting court.
Also it makes it sound as if all police can't be trusted at all. Which simply is a non truth.
Someone here said that whenever they get stopped by police, they get found guilty even if it's made up.
Well, my counterpoint is that in my 50+ years I had mostly good run ins with police and the twice I didn't, was kind of obvious to see where they came from.
Meanwhile millions of cops around the world are doing a really important job.
Maybe something smells fishy and yes, just like everywhere there are crooked ones and we need to make sure the police won't get politicised. But this idea that because a handful of nutters infiltrated the police, we must get rid of them is inane.


Every job has it's crazies. I can provide a list of doctors and nurses that killed. The list for serial killer healthworkers will be long enough, add to that those who kill as a one-off or out of negligence or out of stupidity, and the list will be in their hundred thousands. Should we dismantle health services?
Why not get bothered about all the paedos who have infiltrated everywhere there are children?
Should we close all children's homes, choires, churches etc?

The very nature of the police is to deal with dangerous situations. Many cops get killed for no reason but being dehumanised by criminals, should we get rid of the population?

Civilised countries have a decent police system, helping millions of victims. Do they need an overhaul from corruption? Sure, but not lead by lefties, as their ideas are all en par with what children with no life experience or criminals dream of.
We need the police more than we need criminals.




edit on 12-7-2020 by Hecate666 because: grammar etc



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: a325nt
I'm not a socialist, I just can't recall a single police interaction in thirty years that worked out for me.
Every single time, it's me getting punished for doing something not that unreasonable, but against the law in their eyes.
Every. Single. Time.

Spend that money on the fire department instead. At least those guys are there to help. Or so I'm told. At least they're not randomly enforcing badly written rules on unsuspecting tax payers.


Translation:

"Yes, I knew what I was doing was illegal, but it doesn't matter because I didn't think it should be illegal. So I'm going to blame the people charged with enforcing the law, rather than myself for breaking the laws."

I'll be 49 this year. I've had multiple interactions with the police over the years. Multiple departments in multiple cities. Was arrested ONCE for driving with no license.

The rest, the only thing I did when dealing with the cop (I clearly was in the wrong most times) was:

1) be respectful
2) admit fault
3) not ask for special treatment
4) comply

Every time, I was let go with a warning.

Every time.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Hecate666


I disagree with your starting comment. You make it sound as if every cop who kills is automatically free to go.


No actually, I don't. Whether you are referring to my literal first comment in this thread, or the first sentence/paragraph in the comment you responded to. Nowhere have I suggested, inferred or accused all cops of being or bad or that "every cop who kills is automatically free to go." I have made very clear distinctions. Something that the OP itself did not, and something that the poster I last responded to did not.

As you acknowledge, not all cops are good cops, and not all cops who kill without reasonable cause are brought to justice. The best anyone has, "Well, hey, BLACK PEOPE KILL MORE." What adult even thinks like this??? Did their mommy never tell them that just because Johnny does it, that doesn't make okay for them to do it? Did mommy never tell them that two wrongs don't make a right? These aren't even complex concepts. Even children know this!!!

I would love to see one discussion that didn't focus on "BLACK PEOPLE KILL MORE." Even as posters are dancing on graves (presuming they want that long and it's not just a cold dead corpse). No respect for the sanctity of life, much less our absolute right to life. No respect for the law and those enforcers who are breaking the law. No one cares about crunching the numbers in actual departments to see if those departments and/or officers have a history and pattern of excess force (as Minneapolis does).

Lots of folks crying about "defund" the police, but have no idea what that really means. No idea what police reforms have been suggested/requested, or how it could actually HELP officers on the streets, or better training to keep both officers and civilians alive and well. No one wants to take a good hard look at "Killology" and the targets put on EVERYONE's backs, training officers that we are ALL guilty until dead.

I'm not going to make excuses for bad cops. And I'm not going to make excuses for the people who refuse to hold bad cops accountable... Nothing patriotic about that. In fact, exactly the opposite. Everything in our Constitution demands that We The People hold our authorities accountable, and that We The People demand our rights be upheld.

Giving tyrants with a government badge and a government gun a free pass to kill our fellow Americans isn't patriotic. It's betrayal. And quite possibly treason, aiding and abetting those factions (BLM, Antifa, Boogaloo Boys, etc) using the people's outrage at rogue police to bring revolution to our streets.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns


"This is coming into your neighborhood if we don't wake up and stop this socialist threat immediately"
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Socialists LOL, this massive Psyop that is going on in the west has nothing to do with socialism.

Defunding the police is not a socialist idea. Traditionally it's the socialists that fund services like health & safety and raise taxes.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
I'll stand with the good and honorable LEOs... and demand justice of the bad LEOs.

Exactly. A practical way needs to be found to completely and utterly destroy the 'blue wall of silence' that prevents good LEOs from ratting out the bad ones.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

Exactly. A practical way needs to be found to completely and utterly destroy the 'blue wall of silence' that prevents good LEOs from ratting out the bad ones.


Yes! And that's where we have to go to the top, because it's the top brass that enables the retaliation against Whistleblowers. When the top brass are honorable and noble, they don't allow that crap.

And that includes the police federations and unions. Thanks to union contracts, many cops have more "rights" than the people have, and have imposed very specific procedures and protocols to hinder investigation and prosecution.
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posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Phage

No, they do not. That's certainly the case here.

Supporting their members, it is the reason they exist. I may not like unions all that much-but that's mostly because of their "leadership"-not because of their reasons for existing...




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