China Warn's of a New Virus From Kazakhstan, 1700 People Dead so far

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Jay-morris

I don't think Iceland has a bioweapons program

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No, but mostly all the main big players do. So why are people making out it's just China?

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: Guyfriday
Wait, is this just the Plague outbreak that China is again blaming on something else? Seems to me that the good old Chinese sees to have forgotten that another time in history a raspatory illness came from that place right before the plague started to go everywhere. Pepperidge farm remembers, Pepperidge farm remembers all.

So, what is it? Some of you are saying it's harmless, some of you are saying it's a plague (trump disciples) some saying its not that bad.So which one is is?

Even Lord Trump cannot make his mind up!

Well it's a bit confusing isn't it. On one hand we have the SARS Corona Type 2 virus which is a respiratory illness, then we have the a "Corona Virus" which is a common class of viruses which people are being misidentified as having the SARS Corona type 2 for either safety or political reasons, and finally we have the "Covid-19" which seems to encompass just about everything from athletes foot to seasonal allergies.

When it was pointed out the China was having an outbreak of Pneumonic Plague, I looked up the symptoms and there they were the same as what the media was telling us to watch out for with the "Covid-19", and then there was those pictures of people with discolored skin being admitted into the hospitals. That's when it started to make sense what was going on. In China they are having unseasonable rains flooding up food sources for rats after having a warmer than normal winter. This would allow the rat populations to grow out of control, then with the rains and flooding the rats move into cities infecting the people there. Thee fact that rat population explosion happened before the SARS Corona type 2 being released into the people of Wuhan is very telling, and it explains why some labs were reporting that the virus was a lab created one.

Now look at how the world responded; people were being told to shelter at home, businesses like pest control had to close up. The end results is global rat populations are up, controlling those populations is down, and more people are coming down with this illness. Now we are being told that the warmth allows the virus to spread faster through out the human body, so we should continue to stay indoors, but we also know that when flu and cold season hits us in the fall, that those are also going to be pushed off as being the "covid". Plague fleas go dormant during the colder weather so everything seems to be matching up with early plague like situation.

Did you know that during the time of the "Great Mortality" (aka the black death) unseasonable rains and rat displacement in China started the whole thing off. The Mongol invasion of China allowed it to spread, but the plague it self came from China. First there were reports of a respiratory illness, then months later there were people getting the "apple blotches", and finally reports of full blown Bubonic Plague were being reported with mass dying's taking place. So did China create the SARS Corona Type 2 virus to cover up the facts that they were starting to have an out of control plague outbreak? Now that it's been confirmed that China is indeed having an outbreak of plague, they seem to have "discovered" a new more dangerous respiratory illness we should all fear. Oh, and what about the reports of the Chinese plague? Where did that go in the media, and why isn't that being talked about? China seems to be in full panic mode.

originally posted by: Guyfriday

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: Guyfriday
Wait, is this just the Plague outbreak that China is again blaming on something else? Seems to me that the good old Chinese sees to have forgotten that another time in history a raspatory illness came from that place right before the plague started to go everywhere. Pepperidge farm remembers, Pepperidge farm remembers all.

So, what is it? Some of you are saying it's harmless, some of you are saying it's a plague (trump disciples) some saying its not that bad.So which one is is?

Even Lord Trump cannot make his mind up!

Well it's a bit confusing isn't it. On one hand we have the SARS Corona Type 2 virus which is a respiratory illness, then we have the a "Corona Virus" which is a common class of viruses which people are being misidentified as having the SARS Corona type 2 for either safety or political reasons, and finally we have the "Covid-19" which seems to encompass just about everything from athletes foot to seasonal allergies.

When it was pointed out the China was having an outbreak of Pneumonic Plague, I looked up the symptoms and there they were the same as what the media was telling us to watch out for with the "Covid-19", and then there was those pictures of people with discolored skin being admitted into the hospitals. That's when it started to make sense what was going on. In China they are having unseasonable rains flooding up food sources for rats after having a warmer than normal winter. This would allow the rat populations to grow out of control, then with the rains and flooding the rats move into cities infecting the people there. Thee fact that rat population explosion happened before the SARS Corona type 2 being released into the people of Wuhan is very telling, and it explains why some labs were reporting that the virus was a lab created one.

Now look at how the world responded; people were being told to shelter at home, businesses like pest control had to close up. The end results is global rat populations are up, controlling those populations is down, and more people are coming down with this illness. Now we are being told that the warmth allows the virus to spread faster through out the human body, so we should continue to stay indoors, but we also know that when flu and cold season hits us in the fall, that those are also going to be pushed off as being the "covid". Plague fleas go dormant during the colder weather so everything seems to be matching up with early plague like situation.

Did you know that during the time of the "Great Mortality" (aka the black death) unseasonable rains and rat displacement in China started the whole thing off. The Mongol invasion of China allowed it to spread, but the plague it self came from China. First there were reports of a respiratory illness, then months later there were people getting the "apple blotches", and finally reports of full blown Bubonic Plague were being reported with mass dying's taking place. So did China create the SARS Corona Type 2 virus to cover up the facts that they were starting to have an out of control plague outbreak? Now that it's been confirmed that China is indeed having an outbreak of plague, they seem to have "discovered" a new more dangerous respiratory illness we should all fear. Oh, and what about the reports of the Chinese plague? Where did that go in the media, and why isn't that being talked about? China seems to be in full panic mode.

Sorry, but that did bot answer my question. What Trump refers to as the plague, is not a plague, plain and simple. We have people in people saying it's not bad at all, and their freedoms are bring taken away over something thst most people recover from. Then we have people saying it is bad. Do who is right?

Even Lord Trump cannot make his mind up, but of cause he called it the plague to p#as off Gina, that's all.

So calling this virus a plague, is plain and simply not right.

a reply to: Jay-morris

During cold and flu season you can get a cold or the flu or both. So why does the idea that an illness like SARS Corona Type 2, the cold, and the Pneumonic Plague confuse you? A person can say that on one hand it's a plague, because it is, then turn around and say that the SARS Corona Type 2 is spreading, because it is, the finally say it's just a cold, because it is.

Like I said it's very confusing because depending on the situation it can be true. It's going to depend on which illness the people talking about is being presented. Are you going to quarantine yourself voluntarily because of a cold? If it might be the dreaded "Covid" you might. Now let's say that you came down with plague (which I hope you never do), then how do you react?

The plague is the plague, and it's spreading. China is having an outbreak of it as we type this, but refuses to acknowledge it. The rest of the world will have to deal with the fourth great mortality soon enough, but for now we have this SARS Corona Type 2 virus and other illnesses to deal with. So sorry that it doesn't answer your question in the way that you like, but if it's a miscommunication between us, then please point out the confusion in my answer so that I can clarify it better.

a reply to: Guyfriday

Sorry, but you are not making any sense. The plague lord trump is referring too is covid 19. Has both to do with the small outbreak in Mongolia of the plague, which can be treated easily with anti biotics. And it's not the first time the plague has infected people recently. It has happend a few times over the last decade, but lime I said, it's easily treated.

a reply to: Jay-morris

I don't think the other major powers use human test subjects in their bioweapons program, said subjects won this prize for the crime of being Muslim, or simply for not being Han.

Despicable country run by actual monsters.

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Jay-morris

I don't think the other major powers use human test subjects in their bioweapons program, said subjects won this prize for the crime of being Muslim, or simply for not being Han.

Despicable country run by actual monsters.

American government tested '___' on its own soldiers and was giving place people Syphilis without their knowledge!

Learn your history!

a reply to: Jay-morris

Yes I know that. Horrible.

However I am on about things that are happening today, not things that happened 60 years ago.

The Chinese Communist Party is genocidal. The American government is not.

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Jay-morris

Yes I know that. Horrible.

However I am on about things that are happening today, not things that happened 60 years ago.

The Chinese Communist Party is genocidal. The American government is not.

How do you know it's not happening today? Are you saying the American government are not working on bio weapons? Are you really saying that?

And are you saying if this was a bio weapon, then China let it free on purpose? Are you saying that?

a reply to: Jay-morris

I don't know. But nobody has said it has or provided evidence it is. I assume it isn't.

I'm saying given that the Chinese Communist Party murder people for their organs on order, and have no problem testing bioweapons on undesirable elements of their own populace, I wouldn't put it past them.

a reply to: Jay-morris

What if it isn't a weapon and some sort of forced evolution via genetic augmentation, like when everyone is infected with the program then a subroutine gets installed altering the genes forcing one result or another?


Obviously I am just effing around here but I truly don't believe any of this stuff is a bio weapon, what is the point of potentially infecting your entire standing military? Is it like the movie Braveheart when Longshenks tells the sgt to fire arrows into his unit and is asked "but sir wont that hit our men?" and Longshenks replies "well it will hit theirs too."

a reply to: Ohanka

I don't know. But nobody has said it has or provided evidence it is. I assume it isn't.

Governments around the world have labs where they can do such things. And giving the horrible things they do, why would they not be secretly doing this?

I'm saying given that the Chinese Communist Party murder people for their organs on order, and have no problem testing bioweapons on undesirable elements of their own populace, I wouldn't put it past them.

So, the Chinese Government are randomly killing innocent people for organs right? Is thst what you are saying?

And you did not answer my question. Do you think China released this "bio weapon" on purpose?

originally posted by: autopat51
now that its started, its never going to stop. it will be one thing after another from here on out.

Remember the goal of the leftists, the liberals, the socialists, the communists is to have a world wide population of only 500,000. The environmentalist lefties have been championing this goal for a long time. That means hundreds of millions must die.

That is why the liberal left are encouraging mass gatherings where people are crowded together protesting during a pandemic. It is a form of genocide and they are blameless because as they say getting together in crowds of hundreds with many not wearing masks, not social distancing, and spending hours together, doesn't cause COVID 19 if you are protesting for BLM. Right, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn you can buy if you believe that.

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originally posted by: SaturnFX
Gonna keep an eye on this like everyone else I guess.

If its real, and not a different strain of Covid19, then either its one hell of a coincidence, or someone somewhere is playing with bio-warfare

You know the liberal left environmentalist goal, of killing hundreds of millions of people on the planet to achieve the goal of only 500,000 left alive.

Biowarfare is the way to go if you are a staunch liberal left environmentalist. For them the goal is more important than humanity.

Right now there are 550,000,000 people on the planet, that means 549,500,000 must die "to save the planet"

a reply to: Jay-morris

I'm not going to reply to your obfuscations for the Chinese Communist Party after this.

Yes, China do murder innocent people for their organs, on order. If they happen to be dissidents, Muslims, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Mongolians or other undesirable elements. This is well documented.

and like I said, I wouldn't put it past them.

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Jay-morris

Yes I know that. Horrible.

However I am on about things that are happening today, not things that happened 60 years ago.

The Chinese Communist Party is genocidal. The American government is not.

How do you know it's not happening today? Are you saying the American government are not working on bio weapons? Are you really saying that?

And are you saying if this was a bio weapon, then China let it free on purpose? Are you saying that?

Maybe, look COVID 19 mostly kills "inconvenient people" and those who cost society money and are "non-productive".

It mostly kills the elderly, the infirm, people with multiple health problems. What better way to rid their country and the world of what the Chinese consider "non-productive" people who eat resources?

China has an enormous elderly problem. They revere the elderly so the government couldn't outright kill off the problem elderly, but a virus, that's another story. The one child policy turned out to be a drain on young families where 2 adults had to support 4 elderly parents and their child. The one child policy was lifted and people still only had one child because they could no afford another child while so few young adults were supporting so many elderly adults. It is a huge problem in China, look it up.

I would not have put it past the Chinese to engineer the virus to do exactly that, take care of the elderly problem, and if it got a few younger people along the way, well society and the greater good for society was more important than any individual. That is how socialism/communism work, all for the society, the individual has no worth.

Several governors took advantage of that to clean up costly nursing home patients who were unable to pay and medicaid had to pay for them. All they had to do, like Cuomo and Whitmer was order nursing homes to take COVID 19 patients and voila thousands of expensive nursing home patients are no longer a financial burden on the state.

originally posted by: Ohanka
the Chinese Communist Party and Kazakhstan have very strained relations at the moment due to Kazakhstan objecting to the monstrous treatment of Turkic people in Uyghuristan.

Would not surprise me in the least if the Communist Party did this to them.

Good thinking. The Chinese want the world off their backs, what better way than to do this. I wouldn't put it past such an evil regime.

a reply to: Jay-morris

ANY virus that goes worldwide and kills off a decent portion of the world population is a plague.

COVID 19 is a plague on the world.

The definition of plague used as a verb is: VERB
cause continual trouble or distress

I would say COVID 19 is causing continual trouble and distress around the world, thanks China.

a reply to: Jay-morris

From my first response:

and finally we have the "Covid-19" which seems to encompass just about everything from athletes foot to seasonal allergies.

So calling something "covid-19" is the same as saying a person is sick. Also it should be noted that the treatment for plague is readily available in most countries, think about where these outbreaks are occurring, and also think about the reporting source. Do you really think China wants the world to know it has a problem?

Every year a few hundred people are infected with a plague due to interactions with wild life, those are reported though, and in most cases the people are able to get treatments. This situation in China is being called an "Outbreak" that sounds a lot like more then a few hundred people doesn't it? Then you have China once again magically conjuring up a new virus that can only explain away the illness by pushing it off onto another country.

Since your profile says that you are located in Brighton UK, serious question: "How's the rat population there?"

a reply to: Ohanka

I'm not going to reply to your obfuscations for the Chinese Communist Party after this.

What?

Yes, China do murder innocent people for their organs, on order. If they happen to be dissidents, Muslims, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Mongolians or other undesirable elements. This is well documented.

And where is your evidence (not western media fake news) the the CCP have randomly killed innocent people for their organs? Are you using the same media sources that said that chinese people eat babies too?

Most of these allagations came from members of the cult Falun Gong, but of cause, any negative thing said about China, people in the West will believe straight away.

Michael Millis who is vice-chairman for global surgery and director at the University of Chicago’s School of Medicine Transplant Centre pretty much debunked this myth. Pena said the number was pretty much the same as anywhere else, and was practically impossible.

But he is not the only one. Other experts have come forward and said it is not true.

Remember when the western media came out and said that chinese people eat babies? Everyone believed that too, until it was proved completly wrong.

and like I said, I wouldn't put it past them.

Then please tell me. How does this benafit China releasing this virus to the world?