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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Same thing here in Hillsborough county. Even with the county-wide mask order, most of the younger people still aren't wearing one. It's a damn shame. If everyone would just suck it up and wear a mask for a few weeks this thing could be over.

Yeah..... okay *rolls eyes*

I have worn a mask maybe two times (had to go into a Costco and unfortunately it was a requirement. This whole thing is overblown. If you're healthy you should be fine. If your prone to illness quarantine yourself if it makes you sleep better at night. By next year this whole thing will just disappear off the face of the earth.




posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 06:10 AM
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It's almost like the state governors want to depopulate the their states. Mask wearing should be mandatory with heavy fines for not doing it. Pass out free masks. Paid for by state governments. I would like to see these state boarders sealed off, no one leaves. The stupid arrogant selfish people are spreading the disease. A lot of elderly pay the price for the stupidity of others. America is starting to look really dumb and selfish. President Trump is losing all respect. He needs to do his job, not campaign.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 07:25 AM
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a reply to: openminded2011

I can only say that I wear a mask as mandated by our authoritarian PA Governor and his lackwit Secretary Of Health. INDOORS in businesses. Outside, the mask comes off and stays off. I can't say I practice social distance but that was never effective anyway under at least 20 feet indoors. The masks aren't effective either but both serve as security blankets and I guess we have to have something to make us feel safe and being told what to do feeds a child like need for security. But my county was hit by the virus back in March and April and I've had it. Its still having some new cases but the rate continues to drop. And while this virus is extremely contagious( hence my skepticism of any real benefit to safety measures other than self isolation and total lockdowns and shutting down all businesses) it also runs the gamut of deadly( mostly in the elderly and those with compromised health conditions) to very mild to almost not even noticeable. If its finally hitting your area, there will be new cases no matter what and a major outbreak of them. But we can't give in to fear and ignorance and stop living.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: Annee

No bother Annee, same to yourself for returning the favor, and extending the courtesy of good manners to others.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




Now look at us today. They took the most drastic action ever, and int he process destroyed any chance of compliance with masks. Among a population that already distrusts authority, authority needs to make sure they do their jobs and get it right. As we see today...trying to call a mulligan after you've already completely blown it worse than anyone could even imagine is just going to be a disaster.


I know this has been said before, and probably better, but it's hard to remember anything but what we choose to remember

When reports were first coming out of China, nobody knew what this was going to do. It's why at the first hint of a serious pandemic isolation is a surefire way of containing a complete unknown

They weren't wrong, and had we done it right, and stuck with it longer we'd be in a better place right now. Other countries around the world did the same but better and they're in a better position now. There's a resurgence happening all over, and it isn't a second wave yet. We're still dealing with the first wave, and until there's a vaccine there's going to be more of this to deal with

There were protocols in place that might have helped, people whose jobs were to directly deal with this exact situation, but they were dismantled and fired not too long before this thing hit. We went in crippled by our national politics of blame and obfuscation

Our culture doesn't do masks, and in the beginning it wasn't well understood how this was spreading. I think people expect science to be all knowing and infallible. It's a process. We also have to have a population that's on board, and we didn't. Not completely

Economies suffer during a pandemic, even in the past before science existed to help understand what they were dealing with it brought ruin. Managing large populations requires either an authoritarian approach, or the complete voluntary cooperation from the people. We didn't really have either

All of us have been affected, and obviously some worse than others. All over the world. It's a tragedy, honestly, there's no way around it. I understand your anger, but the economy was always going to suffer. Even with masks

We're in shock Tex. Worldwide - and maybe especially here because we feel like we're invincible

As I told a friend of mine recently, we just need to grieve the sh!t out of this, pick ourselves up and carry on

I know that doesn't really help



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Excellent post.

And you’re absolutely correct.

Mature adults should understand that sometimes compliance is the correct thing to do.

The “you (gov) can’t tell me what to do” crowd — are acting childishly in this situation.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Annee

A star for the compliance part, not the excellence part


And yes, childishly, but also probably normal and to be expected. I try to factor in the loss, the fear, confusion, anxiety and anger

I do think that on some level we are in shock - which doesn't help us reconcile ourselves with reality

This is still relatively new if you really think about it. It's only been 4 months of actually dealing with it directly. Hopefully we do better going forward



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Annee

A star for the compliance part, not the excellence part


And yes, childishly, but also probably normal and to be expected. I try to factor in the loss, the fear, confusion, anxiety and anger

I do think that on some level we are in shock - which doesn't help us reconcile ourselves with reality

This is still relatively new if you really think about it. It's only been 4 months of actually dealing with it directly. Hopefully we do better going forward



Thanks


I’m all for questioning. I’m not a “jump when spoken to” — that’s for the military — which currently is by your choice.

But, at some point, in reality — Denial becomes Blind Ignorance.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: cognizant420

Greater mind than yours or mine seems to think there is a least a possibility where a vaccine is concerned.

As to the viability or longevity of any such vaccine, that remains s to be established.

I certainly don't see a working vaccine materializing this side of 2020 just down to the manner in which such things are produced, nevermind the complicated and timely medical trials that are required so as to mitigate any unforeseen side effects, like death for instance.

The thing is COVID 19 is not a joke, don't think many people are laughing if we are honest given the implications and tragic set of circumstances the pathogen has brought about worldwide.



So far those "greater minds" seem to know little more than many on these boards. Vaccine? Oh they will miraculously come up with one and people will flock in droves to get it. Your nearest community center, nearest town hall, Walmart, schools, Home Depot....just watch. But if you are wise, think Trojan Horse. They of course will mandate it, so when they do lookup the Nuremberg Code. It will be rammed down our throats if they have their way. By then the world will just about be a police state.

I will sooner die than comply when that time comes.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:38 PM
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There was an "anti mask league" during the 1918 pandemic too, bleating on about constitutional rights.

Imagine being so utterly thick that you claim it's your constitutional right not to wear something that increases your safety. Same as the utter tards who get angry at having to wear helmets on their bikes. All fun and games until your face meets the asphalt.

We humans may progress technologically, but we sure don't progress any other way. There is always that 10-20% of utter morons.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: BiffTannen

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: cognizant420

Greater mind than yours or mine seems to think there is a least a possibility where a vaccine is concerned.

As to the viability or longevity of any such vaccine, that remains s to be established.

I certainly don't see a working vaccine materializing this side of 2020 just down to the manner in which such things are produced, nevermind the complicated and timely medical trials that are required so as to mitigate any unforeseen side effects, like death for instance.

The thing is COVID 19 is not a joke, don't think many people are laughing if we are honest given the implications and tragic set of circumstances the pathogen has brought about worldwide.



So far those "greater minds" seem to know little more than many on these boards. Vaccine? Oh they will miraculously come up with one and people will flock in droves to get it. Your nearest community center, nearest town hall, Walmart, schools, Home Depot....just watch. But if you are wise, think Trojan Horse. They of course will mandate it, so when they do lookup the Nuremberg Code. It will be rammed down our throats if they have their way. By then the world will just about be a police state.

I will sooner die than comply when that time comes.


Darwinism at its finest.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: BiffTannen

Yes, that's lovely doom porn but that's about it.

Like i said COVID 19 is a public health concern and nothing to do with the removal of illusory freedom.

The world has always been a police state of sorts.

Anyhoo stay safe, and dont die.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

You call people who evaluate risk differently than you morons?

In 1918 we didn't have ventilators, antibiotics, antivirals, steroids, treatment capacity, etc. Its not 1918 anymore. And COVID is definitely not the Spanish Flu.

I would lke to add, since you called people who disagree with you morons, that your statement is incorrect. Wearing a mask does absolutely nothing to protect you. It protects others. You are going to breath in whatever air is available, and if you aren't filtering it for virus, then the mask does nothing but keep you from spitting out viruses yourself.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper
Covid is real... The reaction is a hoax!


You are absolutely correct, but such sophisticated analysis is beyond the critical thinking skills of many, especially when they've been terrorized by Fauci and MSM.

The virus is real, but the crisis is contrived.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: fencesitter85
There was an "anti mask league" during the 1918 pandemic too, bleating on about constitutional rights.

Imagine being so utterly thick that you claim it's your constitutional right not to wear something that increases your safety. Same as the utter tards who get angry at having to wear helmets on their bikes. All fun and games until your face meets the asphalt.

We humans may progress technologically, but we sure don't progress any other way. There is always that 10-20% of utter morons.


Yes, and it seems most of them have been elected to office.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: Rezlooper
Covid is real... The reaction is a hoax!

The virus is real, but the crisis is contrived.


Is it really?

I know, that I, have no way to determine that through personal knowledge or experience.

What is your expertise?

What facts bring you to this conclusion?



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




You are going to breath in whatever air is available, and if you aren't filtering it for virus, then the mask does nothing but keep you from spitting out viruses yourself.

I agree, for the most part.
This is a reason to not wear one?
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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Salander

I suggest you ask any medical healthcare professional who has experienced the situation where COVID 19 is concerned first hand or anyone who works in the care home industries whether or not this crisis is contrived.

They don't work for Fauci and MSM, and they understand the virus is very real nevermind the implications involved.



posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 08:50 PM
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I am going to from now on call covid-19 COVID-1984 this fear and hysteria, is what is literally, going usher in socialism/fascism, there is a profound current correlation to how this occurs, with present and historic times. I know the cognitive decadence, is to tough on the mind, to focus on the similarities, emotional thought vs critical thought, it’s easier to train animals with emotional thought, fear, stimuli, etc. logical thinking is harder to for animals to do, because reality, is harder to accept, without emotional thought, and it makes animals uncomfortable. Evidence based thought and teaching people how to think is taboo, indeed in 2020.
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posted on Jul, 13 2020 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Salander

I suggest you ask any medical healthcare professional who has experienced the situation where COVID 19 is concerned first hand or anyone who works in the care home industries whether or not this crisis is contrived.

They don't work for Fauci and MSM, and they understand the virus is very real nevermind the implications involved.


It's much easier to ask the thousands of people who have tested positive for COVID-19. Ask the healthy factory workers who have tested positive and getting a free paid vacation. Go to the source for 1st hand experience.

Eventually most will find out that peanut allergy or seafood is more dangerous than COVID-19.



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