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"The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended."

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posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 03:12 PM
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CHAZ CHAD whatever was chanting for the guillotine for anyone who disagrees with liberal left progressive, BLM, ANTIFA ideas.

That is where the liberal left is headed or beheaded for anyone who dares to express any conservative thought at all and definitely headed of you say in public you support Trump for President.

This is really and truly I believe what the Democratic Party has in store for conservatives. Already one BLM leader, a founder of the BLM movement, Khogali said she prays everyday that she won't kill white people. Look it up for yourself.

Biden says you are a criminal and terrorist and should be put on a government list of terrorists, if you are a Christian and say anything at all that does not fully support the LGBTQ agenda.




posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Iirc its not just about one guy standing on a inconsequential corner of London, its about an art gallery which was willing to host and promote speakers, who can be divisive (whether you agree with their views or not) such as Peter Brimelow and Brett Stevens, who has previously praised Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik, search for LD50 the name of the gallery


“I am honored to be so mentioned by someone who is clearly far braver than I,” Stevens wrote on Sunday. “[N]o comment on his methods, but he chose to act where many of us write, think and dream.”


If you seek division you cant complain when it finds you

I live in the North of the UK, we are far more affable with each other in general, but anyone wishing to promote nazis will probably have a difficult time, due to the casualties most families suffered during both wars in defeating nazisim

so while his message looks appealing to most sane people, context is key, you may still see him as the innocent party but understand there was more to it than that one video.



posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

The right to openly discuss ideas is a joke when there are people getting paid to steal ideas and inventions from peoples minds and add them to there thought repression tank. It's game over your either apart of there future system or you will be eliminated. I have been a victim watching this all take place everything is being inventoried and there shutting up shop.
Don't forget though everything is relative.

Forgot to add the Clinton's and Ogama aren't the first and they won't be the last.

Still remember when Ogama said "hack the united states infrastructure is an ACT OF WAR". Still nothing for the people.

HUMAN
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posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 03:41 PM
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This is an interview with one of the people who signed the letter that appeared in Harper's Magazine a few days ago.

The Harper's Letter (it's fairly short)




Canadian psychologist Steven Pinker is one of dozens of writers, artists and academics who signed an open letter in Harper's Magazine criticizing cancel culture — where prominent people face attack for sharing controversial opinions. Other signatories include J.K. Rowling, Salman Rushdie and Margaret Atwood. Pinker spoke to CBC News about why he felt compelled to sign it.


The Interview :

www.cbc.ca...


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall. My father taught me these words as a child and I am so glad he did.



posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: UpIsNowDown

As has been posted here...the man they are calling "Nazi Scum" is Jewish and against fascism.
His message is totally clear..."The right to openly discuss ideas must be defended".

He does NOT single out any one idea (over any other) for which the right to open discussion must be defended.



posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

He is in the middle of a divisive topic, one which some people dont appreciate, celebrating nazi culture and hosting nazi sympathiser speakers, he has to expect to recieve opposing voices

I am not defending anyone in the video, both sides have the right to their own opinion, not my time being wasted, so if others wish there 15 minutes of fame to be on youtube, let them do it, judging from the pictures at the time he was on his own, not that determines who is right/wrong but it would seem the people of London spoke and they did not want the gallery to promote nazi culture, like I said 2 world wars were fought defeating them, its hard for some families to accept people who did not give their own blood then standing in favour of them.






posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: av8r007
a reply to: underwerks

You cannot serve two masters is the problem, you will always love the one and hate the other. Just as so, being a leftist and an American is serving two masters. You cannot be free and also be a leftist, the sad fact is you've been enslaved by an ideology and cannot even recognize the danger before you. The left looks more like Nazi germany today than any wild leftist imaginations about Trump could ever be.




Says the guy that just authored a thread wanting to lock up those meanie leftists for having an opposing opinion. I guess you don't do irony.



posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
WATCH:
twitter.com...

This man in the video (London?) stands alone on the street, quietly and peacefully, holding his sign (stating the OP title, above).
Soon, he is beset by Antifa-like protestors, shouting him down, calling him "NAZI SCUM"...THREATENING HIM...AND FORCING HIM TO GO AWAY.

"The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended."

Who'da thunk such a message would be so controversial?
Since when is saying: "The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Must Be Defended."...Nazism and 'Hate Speech'?

FOLKS...this is where we're all heading.
The idea of even defending the open and free discussion of ideas...is now being shouted down, silenced and called 'Hate Speech'.

To those here on the Left...I ask---What is your idea about this?

Do you support what these people have done?
Are you AGAINST 'The Right To Openly Discuss Ideas Being Defended'?
(See what I'm doing here--defending and encouraging the right to openly discuss ideas?)

If you answer "NO" to any of the above questions...you need to speak out against Marxist groups such as ANTIFA and BLM.



In the interest of discussing ideas, I want to finally state openly how disgusting it is to watch an entire nation who should all be on the same side, fighting for the same home and the same values that our forefathers died together to protect, reduce all of our challenges and conflicts to a childish game of "left vs right" which only feeds the division and animosity we are supposed to conquer as a community. But every chance you get, you have to turn around and be the first to lay blame before "the other guys" can make you look bad. Have you ever thought that maybe you ain't so woke after all? You're still playing the game. You're still on the team, still carrying the banner and puffing your chest proudly because you are just so damned clever and you need "them" to know it. They might wise up and abandon their crusade to join yours. And yet at the end of the day we are all sneetches, whether we wear stars or not. Why do we have to fight each other. Who gains from it. Not us. No one here has gained anything from mud fights. Get outside the dichotomy and really take a good long look at the wizard behind the curtain, who so cleverly made us participate in this madness. The time for "sides" is over. Either you want peace or you dont.



posted on Jul, 10 2020 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT


Try holding up a sign that says that here on ATS and see where it gets you.....LMAO.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

So looking into this. Found this on reddit.

www.reddit.com...


The place being protested was the LD50 gallery in Hackney, London. They and owner Lucia Diego describe themselves as "neo-reactionary" but they are in fact supporting literal fascists and white supremacists and were trying to become the organizing spot in London for such groups to give them legitimacy and attempt to convert white progressives to their cause through the art world:

In the summer, it held a “Neo-reaction conference” which included a talk by Brett Stevens, a white supremacist who has lauded the “bravery” of Anders Breivik - the Norwegian white supremacist who killed 77 people in 2011.


It would appear that this isn't just some random guy holding a sign. But a guy who is known in the community to support white supremacy and fascism.

If the man holding the sign is Brett Stevens then he wrote the following on his website.


In the summer, it held a “Neo-reaction conference” which included a talk by Brett Stevens, a white supremacist who has lauded the “bravery” of Anders Breivik - the Norwegian white supremacist who killed 77 people in 2011.

Mr Stevens' writing was said to be an inspiration to Breivik.

After the attack, Mr Stevens, who edits a far-right website called Amerika, wrote: “I am honoured to be so mentioned by someone who is clearly far braver than I, no comment on his methods, but he chose to act where many of us write, think and dream.”


"...chose to act where many of us write, think and dream."

Does this mean he only wishes he could kill non whites? And this guys writings inspired a white supremacist to kill 77 people?

I'm not going to say he's a white supremacist.

But he's a white supremacist.
edit on 11-7-2020 by grey580 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: grey580

Update,

Apparently the guy holding the sign is DC Miller.

Looks like DC Miller defended the right of Brett Stevens to freedom of speech at some point in time. I don't feel comfortable about anyone supporting a white supremacists freedom of speech.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 12:39 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: grey580

Update,

Apparently the guy holding the sign is DC Miller.

Looks like DC Miller defended the right of Brett Stevens to freedom of speech at some point in time. I don't feel comfortable about anyone supporting a white supremacists freedom of speech.




Well this DC Miller character is somewhat of an ass too it seems.


In this, the first of what will be a series about those emails, Hatewatch exposes the racist source material that has influenced Miller’s visions of policy. That source material, as laid out in his emails to Breitbart, includes white nationalist websites, a “white genocide”-themed novel in which Indian men rape white women, xenophobic conspiracy theories andeugenics-era immigration laws that Adolf Hitler lauded in “Mein Kampf.”

source

Eta.

My bad definatly not the same people.
edit on 11-7-2020 by hopenotfeariswhatweneed because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I was looking at this. I'm not sure if Stephen Miller is DC Miller.

Might be two totally different people.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: grey580

I might be wrong but from what I can gather they are one and the same.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Stephen Miller

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DC Miller



I'm not sure.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: grey580

I'll go with I'm wrong then.



posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: grey580

Ok this seems to be the dc Miller in question here.




posted on Jul, 11 2020 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

He's in the article.

www.hackneygazette.co.uk...



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 12:55 AM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Breakthestreak


Well , Once the " Discussion " Ends , then the Head Butting Begins to Determine the Leader of the Herd , and for the Survival of the Species .......



This is it in a nutshell.

If you won’t have a conversation, then we can’t solve this civilly.

If we can’t solve this civilly, then we have to solve this another way.

If you want to solve it another way, because you won’t have a conversation that considers alternate viewpoints, then it’s going to get personal and physical.

If that happens, the left loses big time.

So here’s a funny thought... why does the left think that if it comes down to physical confrontation they’ll win? And why do they think they can keep their behavior up this way with no consequences?

The arguments of the left aren’t fact-based. They don’t scale anything. It’s pure emotion. That’s a weak place to be building an argument from - no one cares if you don’t have the data to back up your stance. The left doesn’t have that - truly.

If their arguments are hollow and have little basis of support - be it historically or with current data - they better have a lot more firepower if it comes to blows.



posted on Jul, 12 2020 @ 03:53 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

This is exactly what socialists/communists/anarchists have done in other countries where they ruled/rule.

Antifa/BLM, etc are like the Chavistas of Venezeula. Like Chavez, democrats want to disarm the law abiding, to then arm civilian loyalists like Obama spoke when he was POTUS. Remember Obama called for a civilian force as well armed, as well prepared/trained as police officers... Loyalists to him/the socialist/communist revolution the left want in the U.S. They will do this if they are allowed.

For a few years now Chavistas are the ones armed, and when the opposition make protests only the Chavistas are the large majority that are armed and kill protesters in the streets... This is what the far left wants in the U.S.


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