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posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 09:28 AM
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The lowest denominator of the black community will not leave. According to the left they don't know how to get an ID or much less a passport. See where I'm going with this?

I would love to see the betters of the black community to finally hold thug America accountable. Thug culture is ruining everything.

side note - thug music is at a low frequency which is not very harmonic. Do some research if you don't know what I mean.




posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: LeoStarchild

Do you mean to say,
Thug music is nothing more than "oogaboogah, buuga, booguhbooguh!" ?

That's all it has ever sounded like, to me.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: a325nt

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

In crap, I mean rap, they all say the same thing.. catch my drift..

As far as the frequency thing, you would have to research it yourself as its a bit above my pay grade to explain it. I mean I understand it just hard to explain.

*Keep in mind this is my opinion made from research. Its what sounds most logical to me to why thug culture and music breeds ignorance.
edit on 7-7-2020 by LeoStarchild because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 11:48 AM
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We have it good here compared to many other countries. Our poor are helped, but those who abuse the system of welfare lose their rights to get help. I know quite a few people who abused the help systems who got banned from it and they all complain about how poor our help system is in this country.

This woman is right, go live in China or many South American countries and see how bad it is. If someone from Mexico or Guatamala wants to come here, make it affordable and let good people in that will appreciate our society. Illegal immigrants are breaking the law coming here, make it so the good ones can legally immigrate, lower the cost of becoming a resident alien so the good ones can move here.

I have known quite a few people who came here legally, they like it, they follow the laws and are good people. They work and they have it better here than where they come from. I also know some that are Jerks or cause chaos, we got enough of our own people who cause chaos, we need good civil people to immigrate so they can make the jerks a minority again.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

This lady is right. There are plenty of people trying to leave totalitarian regimes, and the one place most people choose to migrate to is the U.S. If you want to destroy the U.S, you want our history erased and re-written, etc, perhaps it is time for you to leave. Go move to China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. Live there, and allow those whom want to escape left-wing totalitarian regimes have a chance at a better life you don't want.


So the party I went to on the 4th were one time immigrants from Bulgaria and Romania that came here from the Communist regime with basically nothing to their names while not able to speak a word English 25 years ago. They really know Socialism/Communism and want nothing to do with it. They are living the dream today and are really pissed with all this wokness that is going on and see a huge threat to their way of life if the Democrats take everything to get a new America...



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Spider879

You do realize - I hope - that if blacks were moving to Africa then their population numbers would dwindle even further than 12%, right? Especially at the rate they kill each other in black neighborhoods.

Yes but some don't care they are willing to make that break, if for nothing else but a piece of mind, the testimony of most they are in a place where they ironically don't feel "Black" .. Just human, and they don't feel the need to justify their existence, now I'm certain the majority of Blacks will stay in America for the time being, because of 500 yrs or so in this hemisphere, but they are having that conversion a new.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Spider879
Look the O.P and others raised the question and gave their answer, however I'm not even gonna front it is a question worth pondering.

[ b] Frederic Douglas

What is America To Me.

In his speech, Douglass acknowledged the Founding Fathers of America, the architects of the Declaration of Independence, for their commitment to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness":

“Fellow Citizens, I am not wanting in respect for the fathers of this republic. The signers of the Declaration of Independence were brave men. They were great men, too, great enough to give frame to a great age. It does not often happen to a nation to raise, at one time, such a number of truly great men. The point from which I am compelled to view them is not, certainly, the most favorable; and yet I cannot contemplate their great deeds with less than admiration. They were statesmen, patriots and heroes, and for the good they did, and the principles they contended for, I will unite with you to honor their memory…. 

"…Fellow-citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here to-day? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?"

I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us.

FREDERICK DOUGLASS"What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?"

"...Would to God, both for your sakes and ours, that an affirmative answer could be truthfully returned to these questions! Then would my task be light, and my burden easy and delightful. For who is there so cold, that a nation’s sympathy could not warm him? Who so obdurate and dead to the claims of gratitude, that would not thankfully acknowledge such priceless benefits? Who so stolid and selfish, that would not give his voice to swell the hallelujahs of a nation’s jubilee, when the chains of servitude had been torn from his limbs? I am not that man. In a case like that, the dumb might eloquently speak, and the 'lame man leap as an hart.' 

But such is not the state of the case. I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice, are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you, has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn..."

—Frederick Douglass, July 5, 18
nmaahc.si.edu...


I want folks to keep in mind that it is the African Americans who are among the most American of us all, they stubbornly stuck it out, they paid the price but constantly received less, but situation and historical setbacks made a lot of them feel like they are strangers in a strange land.

edit on 7-7-2020 by Spider879 because: Fix stuff.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
twitter.com...

This lady is right. There are plenty of people trying to leave totalitarian regimes, and the one place most people choose to migrate to is the U.S. If you want to destroy the U.S, you want our history erased and re-written, etc, perhaps it is time for you to leave. Go move to China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. Live there, and allow those whom want to escape left-wing totalitarian regimes have a chance at a better life you don't want.


This is the kind of immigrant I have zero problem with.

She is absolutely correct. 99% of the people protesting have never experienced oppression.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
Actually some are doing just that, and there is a current debate among members of the various AA communities, as a possible and even reasonable idea, but this debate is nothing new, and is well over a century 's old,.

Why black Americans are moving to Africa
nypost.com...

Do we stay within the states, Marcus Moziah Garvey build the largest international organizations to effect that purpose, it was called the Back To Africa Movement. the belief back then that the white community was inherently hostile to Blacks living in total freedom among them, keep in mind this was late 19th to early 20th cent. America, slavery was gone , reconstruction was scuttled by White supremacist and replaced with Jim Crow..lynching was common.

Marcus Garvey and his organization, the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), represent the largest mass movement in African-American history. Proclaiming a black nationalist "Back to Africa" message, Garvey and the UNIA established 700 branches in thirty-eight states by the early 1920s. While chapters existed in the larger urban areas such as New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, Garvey's message reached into small towns across the country as well. Later groups such as Father Divine's Universal Peace Mission Movement and the Nation of Islam drew members and philosophy from Garvey's organization, and the UNIA's appeal and influence were felt not only in America but in Canada, the Caribbean, and throughout Africa
nationalhumanitiescenter.org...
.


Another group of prominent African Americans, W.E.B Dubois lead the opposition , the U.S gov't at the time hated the idea of Blacks in power but hated the idea of them leaving enmasse, J Edger Hoover 's cut his teeth on the dismantling the movement which he saw as dangerous, so from within the confines of the U.S using AA informants he was able to bring him down, W.E.B Dubois among the founders of the NAACP sprang to national prominence..however in his later yrs , he was so disappointed that he admitted Garvey was right, and moved to the Newly Independent state of Ghana were he died.

Today this old conversation is taking place, one side saying we have built up this nation from its infancy, through blood sweat and tears and it would have come to naught should we pack up and leave now.

The other voice said we can't stay here as we are universally hated, and our contributions counted for nothing.
2019: Year of return for African Diaspora


www.un.org...


In the heart of Accra, Ghana’s capital, just a few meters from the United States embassy, lie the tombs of W. E. B. Du Bois, a great African-American civil rights leader, and his wife, Shirley. The founder of the US-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People moved to Accra in 1961, settling in the city’s serene residential area of Labone and living there until his death in August 1963.

Mr. Du Bois’s journey to Ghana may have signaled the emergence of a profound desire among Africans in the diaspora to retrace their roots and return to the continent. Ghana was a major hub for the transatlantic slave trade from the 16th to the 19th centuries.

In Washington, D.C., in September 2018, Ghana’s President Nana Akufo-Addo declared and formally launched the “Year of Return, Ghana 2019” for Africans in the Diaspora, giving fresh impetus to the quest to unite Africans on the continent with their brothers and sisters in the diaspora.

At that event, President Akufo-Addo said, “We know of the extraordinary achievements and contributions they [Africans in the diaspora] made to the lives of the Americans, and it is important that this symbolic year—400 years later—we commemorate their existence and their sacrifices.”



This was a highly successful event, and 2020 promise to be even bigger as more African nations rolled out the welcome mat with promises of land citizenship and business opportunities, that's until a lil virus called Covid 19 poured cold water over it.



Didn't Lincoln want to send the freed slaves back to Africa at one point?



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Spider879
Actually some are doing just that, and there is a current debate among members of the various AA communities, as a possible and even reasonable idea, but this debate is nothing new, and is well over a century 's old,.

Why black Americans are moving to Africa
nypost.com...

Do we stay within the states, Marcus Moziah Garvey build the largest international organizations to effect that purpose, it was called the Back To Africa Movement. the belief back then that the white community was inherently hostile to Blacks living in total freedom among them, keep in mind this was late 19th to early 20th cent. America, slavery was gone , reconstruction was scuttled by White supremacist and replaced with Jim Crow..lynching was common.

Marcus Garvey and his organization, the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), represent the largest mass movement in African-American history. Proclaiming a black nationalist "Back to Africa" message, Garvey and the UNIA established 700 branches in thirty-eight states by the early 1920s. While chapters existed in the larger urban areas such as New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, Garvey's message reached into small towns across the country as well. Later groups such as Father Divine's Universal Peace Mission Movement and the Nation of Islam drew members and philosophy from Garvey's organization, and the UNIA's appeal and influence were felt not only in America but in Canada, the Caribbean, and throughout Africa
nationalhumanitiescenter.org...
.


Another group of prominent African Americans, W.E.B Dubois lead the opposition , the U.S gov't at the time hated the idea of Blacks in power but hated the idea of them leaving enmasse, J Edger Hoover 's cut his teeth on the dismantling the movement which he saw as dangerous, so from within the confines of the U.S using AA informants he was able to bring him down, W.E.B Dubois among the founders of the NAACP sprang to national prominence..however in his later yrs , he was so disappointed that he admitted Garvey was right, and moved to the Newly Independent state of Ghana were he died.

Today this old conversation is taking place, one side saying we have built up this nation from its infancy, through blood sweat and tears and it would have come to naught should we pack up and leave now.

The other voice said we can't stay here as we are universally hated, and our contributions counted for nothing.
2019: Year of return for African Diaspora


www.un.org...


In the heart of Accra, Ghana’s capital, just a few meters from the United States embassy, lie the tombs of W. E. B. Du Bois, a great African-American civil rights leader, and his wife, Shirley. The founder of the US-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People moved to Accra in 1961, settling in the city’s serene residential area of Labone and living there until his death in August 1963.

Mr. Du Bois’s journey to Ghana may have signaled the emergence of a profound desire among Africans in the diaspora to retrace their roots and return to the continent. Ghana was a major hub for the transatlantic slave trade from the 16th to the 19th centuries.

In Washington, D.C., in September 2018, Ghana’s President Nana Akufo-Addo declared and formally launched the “Year of Return, Ghana 2019” for Africans in the Diaspora, giving fresh impetus to the quest to unite Africans on the continent with their brothers and sisters in the diaspora.

At that event, President Akufo-Addo said, “We know of the extraordinary achievements and contributions they [Africans in the diaspora] made to the lives of the Americans, and it is important that this symbolic year—400 years later—we commemorate their existence and their sacrifices.”



This was a highly successful event, and 2020 promise to be even bigger as more African nations rolled out the welcome mat with promises of land citizenship and business opportunities, that's until a lil virus called Covid 19 poured cold water over it.



Didn't Lincoln want to send the freed slaves back to Africa at one point?

Yes, some ended up in the Dominican Republic, others even before Lincoln, jumped started the African state of Liberia.
edit on 7-7-2020 by Spider879 because: Fix stuff.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879

I want folks to keep in mind that it is the African Americans who are among the most American of us all, they stubbornly stuck it out, they paid the price but constantly received less, but situation and historical setbacks made a lot of them feel like they are strangers in a strange land.



Now this here bothers me.....

In reality the American nation is made up of immigrants from many countries no

one ever says Irish/American, or Italian/American, or Chinese /American, or any

other Nation/American..... they are all referred to as Americans except

for the African/black American?


WHY IS THIS? Maybe that is the cause of racist/friction?.....








edit on 7-7-2020 by eletheia because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: HalWesten

Yep, nobody wants America to become the shathole she crawled from the depths of.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: LSU2018

Word!

We have these pampered privileged idiots who have more freedom than anywhere else in the world complaining about their poor souls being soooooo oppressed. lulz

For contrast:

Those who are truly oppressed, such as the poor citizens of Hong Kong are being arrested for criticizing the CCP and flying the flag of the United States of America which to them is a symbol of freedom and democracy.

These poor oppressed Marxists should take the place of every person living in Hong Kong and we should grant those people a spot in their place!


I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. Same for South Africa farmers being murdered and driven off of their land by those in the north.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

I've actually seen several testimonies from blacks who went immigrated to Africa and came back to America with a whole new outlook on the country and their true equality here. But it's not enough to make a difference in the black population.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: eletheia
It's the opposite IMO, the hyphen is the result of , not the cause of racism and friction, the names or hyphens started with Negro at its politest, then colored then Black and finally African Americans, then again depending on where one lives in the states, the hyphen is used by other ethnic groups especially Irish and Italians this is true in communities back East.

But no matter what, hyphenated or not, America have not truly come to grips with it's past ,a past some wished to white wash and sanitized in order to maintain the national myth, which carries bad baggage of the past over to it's present.

edit on 7-7-2020 by Spider879 because: Add content.



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Spider879



I've actually seen several testimonies from blacks who went immigrated to Africa and came back to America with a whole new outlook on the country and their true equality here. But it's not enough to make a difference in the black population.




Well it's never easy to adjust to a new reality elsewhere, however, the nations these American tend to travel to are English speaking, with similar infrastructure as Florida or California and are among the rising lions of Africa.

Cities and locations like the above have made relocating much easier, not much different than many places in the states.
edit on 7-7-2020 by Spider879 because: Add content



posted on Jul, 7 2020 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: LeoStarchild
a reply to: a325nt

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

In crap, I mean rap, they all say the same thing.. catch my drift..

As far as the frequency thing, you would have to research it yourself as its a bit above my pay grade to explain it. I mean I understand it just hard to explain.

*Keep in mind this is my opinion made from research. Its what sounds most logical to me to why thug culture and music breeds ignorance.

Yes have to admit some rap is crap, but that's also true of other forms of pop culture, and Rap, is a world wide phenomenon, surpassing Rock and Roll , it also have many sub genre, each very different from the other, but hey U Do U😉

Oh yeah when is decent white folks gonna take charge and handle their thugs!!..see how that reads??.., or do you believe you don't have any??... 😤



posted on Jul, 8 2020 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: LeoStarchild
a reply to: a325nt

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

In crap, I mean rap, they all say the same thing.. catch my drift..

As far as the frequency thing, you would have to research it yourself as its a bit above my pay grade to explain it. I mean I understand it just hard to explain.

*Keep in mind this is my opinion made from research. Its what sounds most logical to me to why thug culture and music breeds ignorance.


You are so misinformed. Not all Rap music is Crap. You simply just don't understand where it comes from. Yes there is bad Rap music but you can't lump all Rap music into the category of "crap". If you knew anything about where it all started you would understand that it was a POSITIVE means of expression that spawned out of poverty to promote unity and peace not violence and hatred. Once mainstream got a hold of it, they exploited it for their gain. Now on the other hand....Pop music, AKA anything played on the radio/TV over n over n over is absolutely crap, all of it, not just 1 genre.



posted on Jul, 8 2020 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Spider879
Actually some are doing just that, and there is a current debate among members of the various AA communities, as a possible and even reasonable idea, but this debate is nothing new, and is well over a century 's old,.

Why black Americans are moving to Africa
nypost.com...

Do we stay within the states, Marcus Moziah Garvey build the largest international organizations to effect that purpose, it was called the Back To Africa Movement. the belief back then that the white community was inherently hostile to Blacks living in total freedom among them, keep in mind this was late 19th to early 20th cent. America, slavery was gone , reconstruction was scuttled by White supremacist and replaced with Jim Crow..lynching was common.

Marcus Garvey and his organization, the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA), represent the largest mass movement in African-American history. Proclaiming a black nationalist "Back to Africa" message, Garvey and the UNIA established 700 branches in thirty-eight states by the early 1920s. While chapters existed in the larger urban areas such as New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, Garvey's message reached into small towns across the country as well. Later groups such as Father Divine's Universal Peace Mission Movement and the Nation of Islam drew members and philosophy from Garvey's organization, and the UNIA's appeal and influence were felt not only in America but in Canada, the Caribbean, and throughout Africa
nationalhumanitiescenter.org...
.


Another group of prominent African Americans, W.E.B Dubois lead the opposition , the U.S gov't at the time hated the idea of Blacks in power but hated the idea of them leaving enmasse, J Edger Hoover 's cut his teeth on the dismantling the movement which he saw as dangerous, so from within the confines of the U.S using AA informants he was able to bring him down, W.E.B Dubois among the founders of the NAACP sprang to national prominence..however in his later yrs , he was so disappointed that he admitted Garvey was right, and moved to the Newly Independent state of Ghana were he died.

Today this old conversation is taking place, one side saying we have built up this nation from its infancy, through blood sweat and tears and it would have come to naught should we pack up and leave now.

The other voice said we can't stay here as we are universally hated, and our contributions counted for nothing.
2019: Year of return for African Diaspora


www.un.org...


In the heart of Accra, Ghana’s capital, just a few meters from the United States embassy, lie the tombs of W. E. B. Du Bois, a great African-American civil rights leader, and his wife, Shirley. The founder of the US-based National Association for the Advancement of Colored People moved to Accra in 1961, settling in the city’s serene residential area of Labone and living there until his death in August 1963.

Mr. Du Bois’s journey to Ghana may have signaled the emergence of a profound desire among Africans in the diaspora to retrace their roots and return to the continent. Ghana was a major hub for the transatlantic slave trade from the 16th to the 19th centuries.

In Washington, D.C., in September 2018, Ghana’s President Nana Akufo-Addo declared and formally launched the “Year of Return, Ghana 2019” for Africans in the Diaspora, giving fresh impetus to the quest to unite Africans on the continent with their brothers and sisters in the diaspora.

At that event, President Akufo-Addo said, “We know of the extraordinary achievements and contributions they [Africans in the diaspora] made to the lives of the Americans, and it is important that this symbolic year—400 years later—we commemorate their existence and their sacrifices.”



This was a highly successful event, and 2020 promise to be even bigger as more African nations rolled out the welcome mat with promises of land citizenship and business opportunities, that's until a lil virus called Covid 19 poured cold water over it.



Didn't Lincoln want to send the freed slaves back to Africa at one point?


Yes. He said we’d never work out our differences. Idiot.



posted on Jul, 8 2020 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: jidnum

I'm white, grew up with Public Enemy, NWA, Tribe called quest I could go on and on. I also listened to the 80's rock. I am a musician with many years singing and playing multiple instruments and I'm pretty good at math.

I do know where it all came from, and yes it was hijacked. sooooory

And whites do have thugs. sooooory

Lets try not to be cognitively dissonant




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