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Russian bounty should receive the same “retaliation” as the Iranian bounty on US president?

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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: neutronflux




You do understand innuendo in its self is not a actual and tangible threat?


Tell it to the widows, the children of, the parents, family members and friends of the soldiers killed in Afghanistan.



So. There is no proof of any tangible increase of military threat against US troops that can be measured by troop movements, increased in actions against US troops, increases in military equipment, or an increase in forces opposing US troops?

Got it.


No, you don't "got it".

"Tangible"? Is intel tangible? Are a record of payments and a confessed middleman tangible? Are soldier's testimony tangible? Are dead bodies tangible?


You don’t get the logic do you?

Because of the alleged bounty, did it increase any activity against us troop? Or was there no appreciable change in military activity against US troops.

Placing a “bounty” on US troops does not make it a credible threat. Especially if you cannot show it caused an increase in enemy combatants and / or equipment for the area of concern.

For the sake of logic, I am placing a 10 dollar bounty on all citizens of Mars. Pretty useless bounty if it doesn’t have the manpower and equipment to carry out the action.

Can you show the alleged bounty caused an unexpected increase in actual activity against US troops? Can you show the alleged bounty caused increase troop movements, troop massing, increased action against US troops missed by normal released threat assessments for the region?


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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: xuenchen
These "bounties" may all be planted BS because the NWO-Globalists/American-Democrat Alliance is trying so desperately to get Trump voted out, they are using "any means necessary" which means ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. All tricks and sacrifices are fair game to these power mongers 🥶🥴🥶


"May all be"? The best you have is just speculation?

Really, if the Democrats were as nasty as you believe, surely they'd simply have Trump assassinated and problem solved.

But they aren't like that. They are reasonable people who are concerned about the damage that this rogue is doing, and the dangers he posed to the country from day one of his Presidency.

The US has a very major crisis brought upon it by the Coronavirus. It is also undergoing major social upheaval. The economy is tanking. Trump stripped out all the funding that was there for contingency (he funneled some of that into his so-far useless wall) and then a natural disaster hit. His response was to further cut funding to contingency agencies.

Trump is also the major contributor to the division of America, ideologically. He doesn't unite the United States.

Trump is doing very little in several situations of national emergency. He is a bad President. He is ineffective. He isn't doing the job of defending the People and Constitutional US from all threats domestic and foreign.

The general public couldn't see what was going on in those early days, but Congress could and they wanted him gone. If you were a patriotic American, you would want him gone, too.

Now, look at what he has actually wrought.


“They are reasonable people”

Yeah, your post is garbage



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Then the second part of the opening post. What has Trump not done that has happen historically in past circumstances of US citizens having bounties placed on them?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:28 PM
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Course the morbidly amusing thing about all this is that the very same people condeming him for not doing "something", are the very same people that just a bit ago were crying that he was a war monger about to start WW3.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 09:04 PM
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There seems to be no credible evidence that the Russians put a bountyon US soldiers. It was mentioned months ago but ignored since there was no credible evidence and the US was in middle of a pandemic. Don't the Democrats understand that a president should be focusing on the pandemic instead of starting to threaten the Kremlin when we have sick sailors on our aircraft carriers?

An investigation needed to be done on the accusations against the Russians if there was any real evidence they did, but evidently preliminary investigations did not verify it was real. The Democrats want Trump and his administration chasing their tails. When this pandemic finally breaks and the riots settle down, then maybe they can take a look at these false accusations more and see who is making up this crap.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux LOL reading from those crap magazines your following media soap opera,all these leaders work together,to form a 1 world government,joke played on us



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 07:15 AM
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This story is horsecrap.

If there is a death that we can point to as receiving said bounty, take action. If not....its all politics



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux




Because of the alleged bounty, did it increase any activity against us troop? Or was there no appreciable change in military activity against US troops.

Placing a “bounty” on US troops does not make it a credible threat. Especially if you cannot show it caused an increase in enemy combatants and / or equipment for the area of concern.


Whatever happened to Trump's Taliban party at Camp David? An escalation of violence? Shattered peace agreements?


Trump eventually scrapped the event after a Taliban car bomb killed a US soldier and 11 others last week. But that decision came after heated debate within the administration over the venue for the summit -- an outgrowth of larger, more substantial disagreements over the wisdom of negotiating with the Taliban at all.
The President told reporters Monday that discussions with the Taliban are "dead, as far as I'm concerned."


According to John Bolton, Trump knew of the Russian bounties for 6 months when he made that statement.

www.cnn.com...
www.salon.com...


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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: neutronflux




Because of the alleged bounty, did it increase any activity against us troop? Or was there no appreciable change in military activity against US troops.

Placing a “bounty” on US troops does not make it a credible threat. Especially if you cannot show it caused an increase in enemy combatants and / or equipment for the area of concern.


Whatever happened to Trump's Taliban party at Camp David? An escalation of violence? Shattered peace agreements?


Trump eventually scrapped the event after a Taliban car bomb killed a US soldier and 11 others last week. But that decision came after heated debate within the administration over the venue for the summit -- an outgrowth of larger, more substantial disagreements over the wisdom of negotiating with the Taliban at all.
The President told reporters Monday that discussions with the Taliban are "dead, as far as I'm concerned."


According to John Bolton, Trump knew of the Russian bounties for 6 months when he made that statement.

www.cnn.com...
www.salon.com...



So you are against working for peace?

Is your hatred for Trump so bad that you would rather have war with everyone as opposed to peace?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Everybody knows that you don't negotiate with terrorists. Trump was being incredibly naïve.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Between 2015 and 2020, how many US troops per year were killed in combat? Do you even know the number?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

What does that have to do with Russia paying a bounty on American soldier's heads? What does that have to do with Trump's apparent incompetence and/or ignorance of that matter, while cozying up to Putin?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: neutronflux

What does that have to do with Russia paying a bounty on American soldier's heads? What does that have to do with Trump's apparent incompetence and/or ignorance of that matter, while cozying up to Putin?





Well. Two things.

One, the manner of combat death makes it plausible or not if there was indeed a bounty.

Two, is there an actual up tick in combat deaths to show the bounty was a credible threat.

So. Again. By year. What were the number of actual US soldiers killed in combat in Afghanistan. Are we talking hundreds each year?
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

Everybody knows that you don't negotiate with terrorists. Trump was being incredibly naïve.



He is not a student of history or politics, and I think this shows that inexperience. In business you engage with anyone who is willing to engage. If some cash can be made, great. If not, fine. But you still engage them...there will almost always be something of value to be gained, even if its just a moment of exposure to a third party.

In politics, what you are referring to is known as "appeasement". We have seen how grandly that strategy fails, and why both the D's and R's have always had a very firm stance against negotiating...because its just appeasement with a different name.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

You keep talking about those killed in action. What deaths are evidence of being the result of a bounty, and how many are we talking about?
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The Afghanistan theater isn't about business. American troops are not trying to sell real-estate or designer shoes. It's war.

It's not about politics so much as religion and the Taliban's desire for us to butt out and leave.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:37 AM
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Seventeen service members died in Afghanistan in 2019, the highest number since 2015, according to a year-end tally compiled by the Department of Defense and reported by Army Times.



Peace talks between the United States and the Taliban came to a halt in September when President Trump canceled a planned meeting with Taliban and Afghan leaders.

thehill.com...



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

For 2019, how many were killed in combat vs a vehicle accident for example?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The Afghanistan theater isn't about business. American troops are not trying to sell real-estate or designer shoes. It's war.

It's not about politics so much as religion and the Taliban's desire for us to butt out and leave.



We are not waging war we have been waging a police action since day 1 in afganistan, wee came close to actually waging war in Iraq but then also fell into a police action.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Tell the Taliban this isn't a war...only a police action.




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