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So... who did Trump actually screw over?

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posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement

originally posted by: XCrycek
More Americans have died of poor handling of CoVid crisis than at hands of all communists THROUGH OUT THE HISTORY.

3.9 million starved Ukrainians would like a word. Idiot.


Don't forget 1.7 million Cambodians, 6 million Jews (Hitler wasn't a communist so that doesn't count, right?) Stalin - 20 million, Zedong - 45 million, yeah the virus has killed more Americans for sure.




posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 09:45 PM
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He trusted Russia to the point where Putin is perfect and intelligence is not. To him.

a reply to: Arnie123

Repeat he took COVID 19 as a joke/hoax and more Americans have died because of it.

Unfortunately your denial of truth hinders your perception of reality to the point you don't see anything wrong. So...



posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

At least stormy wasn’t a minor. This Maxwell case is gonna be huge. One of us is going to look stupid. Oh god I hope it’s not me. What if it’s both of us?? Wouldn’t that be poetic justice?


Why would he look stupid?, does he support Maxwell? I bet not, Clinton? I'm betting the same..not.

Y'all need to figure out..not liking Trump, is NOT an endorsement, or love of Clinton, Biden, pick the poison of choice.




posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

I thought it was a hoax as well, ATS was ahead of the curve on the Chinese Plague, only a few of us took it seriously, fast forward to the pandemic, know one could have seriously known, however, thanks to Trumps swift China ban, it could have been worse and by extension, the early callouts here on ATS.

Secondly, local and state authorities dragged their feet and in some cases result in state overreach, these resulted in deaths.

Infact, Cuomo sent sick patients to nursing homes, resulting in even further deaths!

Even after all that, with bans and social distancing in effect and information available, cases still ticked back up and people still died.

That's not on the President.

That's just your partisan bias and general lack of education, try not to lead emotionally, bad look.



posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13
As President Trump said in his 11:37am Tweet today, CASES...CASES...CASES...That's all the FAKE news media's got left.



posted on Jul, 4 2020 @ 11:51 PM
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For example calling it the China Virus, or Kung Flu is very derogatory to Asian Americans.
a reply to: JAGStorm


Obama called the swine flu the 'Asian' Flu and it was acceptable because............?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: jamespond




Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. That doesn't screw anyone. If the Palestinians ever want peace, accepting reality might be a good first step.


Why is Trump the only one recognising it then? Because he's Israel's biggest boot licker imo. Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.



Palestine has no land. Palestine isn't a state. Again, reality must be faced on this issue to make any progress.


Palestine has plenty of land, otherwise how could Israel steal it in the first place!?!?



This doesn't even make sense. He says Iran can't have nukes and he also says North Korea can't have nukes. FIFY. Next time try to make a rational point.


Iran gets demonised by Trump even though they've never tested or even had a nuke. Kim Jong gets a free dinner, photos and beautiful letters. Laughably consistent that is



This has been beaten to death in numerous threads. He did know Epstein. He also cut ties with Epstein because Epstein is a lowlife. If it turns out Trump was involved in the Epstein fiasco, by all means, charge him. Right now there's no evidence of that.


Aww, he really can do no wrong in your eyes can he. Are you one of the ones that rushed out to buy bleach when the Prez said so? He was friends with Epstein so he must of known what he was up to. End of story. Trump even had Epstein's lawyer as Labor Secretary. Sorry but taking Trump's word on things isn't enough for me and it shouldn't be for you either.




No evidence of that either, in fact all evidence points to the contrary. He's under audit practically constantly, if he owed taxes the IRS would've come after him years ago.



Simple then, let's see him publicise his tax returns. Until he does that I'll be well within my right to assume he's hiding something.




So congrats, you are actively helping Trump get re-elected.


Haha, you keep telling yourself that!
edit on 08/06/82 by jamespond because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: nugget1



For example calling it the China Virus, or Kung Flu is very derogatory to Asian Americans.
a reply to: JAGStorm


Obama called the swine flu the 'Asian' Flu and it was acceptable because............?

I think Chinese virus, is not much different than Asian Flu, Kung Flu on the other hand, is a bit grade school-ish. I'm not lighting my hair on fire over it, but really.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:14 AM
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How's that wall coming?


Afghanistan? We're less active there now right? Globalist much?



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: BelowLowAnnouncement
a reply to: HalWesten
Was something lost in translation?

Unless those millions were also americans then it would seem that all those deaths are just a whole lot of strawmen.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 01:36 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

At least stormy wasn’t a minor. This Maxwell case is gonna be huge. One of us is going to look stupid. Oh god I hope it’s not me. What if it’s both of us?? Wouldn’t that be poetic justice?


Why would he look stupid?, does he support Maxwell? I bet not, Clinton? I'm betting the same..not.

Y'all need to figure out..not liking Trump, is NOT an endorsement, or love of Clinton, Biden, pick the poison of choice.





It's such a bizarre way of thinking in my mind to think because I dislike trump I must support the other side, regardless of how many times I point out that all those politicians are crooks, it makes no difference it's always back to you love Biden or Clinton etc.

It's almost as if rock logic is a sport for Americans.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 02:07 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
It just seems very tribal, and I suppose thats kinda how TPTB like it, nice and divided..someone/thing sure feeding off all this. Obviously the amount of info/propaganda, good or bad, thrown at us daily, hourly is a really effective at stoking fires.

At the same time, America has live through some very divisive times previous.

Maybe if there was more than the pretty much 2 party system, there might be a bit less of, you are one, or the other.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: jamespond
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: jamespond




Jerusalem IS Israel's capital. That doesn't screw anyone. If the Palestinians ever want peace, accepting reality might be a good first step.


Why is Trump the only one recognising it then? Because he's Israel's biggest boot licker imo. Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.



Palestine has no land. Palestine isn't a state. Again, reality must be faced on this issue to make any progress.


Palestine has plenty of land, otherwise how could Israel steal it in the first place!?!?



This doesn't even make sense. He says Iran can't have nukes and he also says North Korea can't have nukes. FIFY. Next time try to make a rational point.


Iran gets demonised by Trump even though they've never tested or even had a nuke. Kim Jong gets a free dinner, photos and beautiful letters. Laughably consistent that is



This has been beaten to death in numerous threads. He did know Epstein. He also cut ties with Epstein because Epstein is a lowlife. If it turns out Trump was involved in the Epstein fiasco, by all means, charge him. Right now there's no evidence of that.


Aww, he really can do no wrong in your eyes can he. Are you one of the ones that rushed out to buy bleach when the Prez said so? He was friends with Epstein so he must of known what he was up to. End of story. Trump even had Epstein's lawyer as Labor Secretary. Sorry but taking Trump's word on things isn't enough for me and it shouldn't be for you either.




No evidence of that either, in fact all evidence points to the contrary. He's under audit practically constantly, if he owed taxes the IRS would've come after him years ago.



Simple then, let's see him publicise his tax returns. Until he does that I'll be well within my right to assume he's hiding something.




So congrats, you are actively helping Trump get re-elected.


Haha, you keep telling yourself that!




Why is Trump the only one recognising it then?

Know US presidents please before you post from ignorance .
Every US president back to , I think Carter ? , has acknowledged Jerusalem as Israel 's capitol and has been signed off on by each.
Yes , even Obama ,
In fact , Clinton had drawn up plans to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. It was postponed due top security reasons.

Research
Learn
Don't go by what you neighbor tells you .
They are wrong.
edit on 7/5/20 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: EnigmaChaser

Leftists believe that government is the saviour of all.

Because Trump has not enacted socialized medicine, has not made college free for all, has not created UBI, has not enacted the Green New Deal, he has harmed people.

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Yes because free health care and school is such a horrendous thing.

More Americans have died of CoVid than in any war combined since 1950's. More Americans have died of poor handling of CoVid crisis than at hands of all communists THROUGH OUT THE HISTORY.

I bet plenty of lives could've been saved if healthcare was available to all and the president wasn't such a clueless prick.

One week he says he would never wear a mask, now he's saying that wearing masks is a good idea.

WHAT A #ING IDIOT.

But yeah... Socialist bla bla bla commie bla bla bla..



Err... lots of things have killed more people than the world wars combined...


Sure they have. But nothing has been handled as bad as CoVid. Jesus f christ.
Trumps handling of CoVid is the worst response to a crisis ever. What a clueless jerk.
How can you expect the guy to be fit to handle a crisis if a bunch of teenage girls can troll this dumb mother#er in to believing that 1 million people would attend his rally? How? Kim Young Un made a fool of this clueless #tard. It all makes sense now.


You sound like a teenage girl.

You also sound like you can't think for yourself because the data shows we're not doing as bad with Covid as the media is pretending.

If Biden were president, we'd have more dead because he wouldn't have done the travel restrictions. We'd also have taken a bigger economic hit because he would've tried to implement one-size-fits-all measures across the country from the federal level on down, which would make no sense. We know this because he said so.

Learn to think for yourself. You've been lied to.


Learn to think for myself? You're the one repeating what every Trump boot licker has been saying for the past 3 and a half years.
"he's doing so much better than Hillary would". He is doing so much better than "insert whatever you want here".
No he is not. He is a clueless idiot who thinks that being a president is the same as running reality TV.
Trump is good at running his mouth when things are doing well.
But handling crisis.. What a #ing disaster.
God forbid someone attacked the USA while this mother#er is in the WH. Imagine Washington being nuked and this clueless retard saying how he knows "nukes better than anyone"


Noted how you couldn't refute anything I said.

Yes, learn to think for yourself. I know it's hard, and at this point you're probably addicted to being told what to be mad about. You are constantly lied to and for some reason you find comfort in that. Sad.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
The LGBT crowd might complain about Trump's views that transgendered people shouldn't serve in the military.

Personally, I don't care if a dude wants to cut his dick off and pretend to be a girl. He will factually be a man his entire life. If pretending otherwise makes him happy, hey, freedom. However, it's definitely unwise to allow people who are already mentally ill into a profession that is notorious for causing or exacerbating mental health issues.

Does that mean we need to outright ban them from serving? In a perfect world, maybe we could have them go through some robust mental health evaluation to find the ones that are mentally stable enough for service. But they would just whine that that's discrimination too so we're kind of in a box on that.


I think he didn't want them serving in the military not because of who they are but they just wanted the free healthcare to cover their surgeries which in turn the liberals were screaming that he's tans phobic, he's not. Guess who would be paying for all those extremely expensive surgeries, we would.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:54 AM
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Trumps use of China in reference to the virus is to point to the nation of origin, a political point, not to a racial one, people of asian ethnicities. People made fun of how you look before? Guess what, every single person who’s posted here has had that happen in their lives. Because a take on his words states his words are derogatory in intent, you agree it could be and therefore is worthy labeling racism (which allows for unilateral damnation by society to purge this evil), again because someone else stated his intent for him, and because it could be interpreted as derogatory, he is worthy of being labeled a racist which once labeled he is an evil of the world we must not have. Damn this is a scary good level of mind control. a reply to: JAGStorm



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13

Repeat he took COVID 19 as a joke/hoax and more Americans have died because of it.


Hilarious you talk about "denial of truth" when you push a debunked lie like this. Even Washington Post said this was fake news.

Where the hell do you get your information from that you still think he called the virus a hoax, months after that was debunked?

You might want to get up to speed on the issues before you post.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: liliththedestroyer

originally posted by: face23785
The LGBT crowd might complain about Trump's views that transgendered people shouldn't serve in the military.

Personally, I don't care if a dude wants to cut his dick off and pretend to be a girl. He will factually be a man his entire life. If pretending otherwise makes him happy, hey, freedom. However, it's definitely unwise to allow people who are already mentally ill into a profession that is notorious for causing or exacerbating mental health issues.

Does that mean we need to outright ban them from serving? In a perfect world, maybe we could have them go through some robust mental health evaluation to find the ones that are mentally stable enough for service. But they would just whine that that's discrimination too so we're kind of in a box on that.


I think he didn't want them serving in the military not because of who they are but they just wanted the free healthcare to cover their surgeries which in turn the liberals were screaming that he's tans phobic, he's not. Guess who would be paying for all those extremely expensive surgeries, we would.


I'm sure there's a degree of that angle. I did 13 years in the Air Force. There are plenty of people who join just to get their free college and try to skate through and never deploy, constantly on medical waivers and whatnot, doing anything they can to not pull their weight. And the services have gone so soft because of PC nonsense we actually allowed it.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: nugget1



For example calling it the China Virus, or Kung Flu is very derogatory to Asian Americans.
a reply to: JAGStorm


Obama called the swine flu the 'Asian' Flu and it was acceptable because............?


Because not only is their outrage completely illogical, it's also fake. And they're entirely aware that it's fake. They're just hoping to fool enough simpletons with it to get votes.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: jamespond


Why is Trump the only one recognising it then? Because he's Israel's biggest boot licker imo. Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine.


As usual, you guys are completely uninformed on the issues you pretend to care so much about. Jerusalem has been recognized as Israel's capital by both Democrat and Republican presidents and Congresses for decades. It is also recognized as such by numerous countries. The only reason most of them don't move their embassies is because of fear of Palestinian terrorism.


Palestine has plenty of land, otherwise how could Israel steal it in the first place!?!?


Simple, they're not. Palestine has no land. Palestine is not a state. You've been lied to. Israel is not "stealing" Palestinian land because that land is not Palestine. It's part of Israel. Israel conquered it in a war and allows Palestinians to live on it. Pick up a history book for Pete's sake.

The rest of your post is equally misinformed. Not worth going over it point by point. You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about and it's obvious you have no interest in learning. You value your ignorance.

And yes, you are helping Trump.



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