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Dem Party Targets Mt. Rushmore As Racist Symbol of White Supremacy

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posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: cognizant420

Do you actually know what you are saying? It sounds like a load of rubbish.

Here is what you said.




I would say we conquered the people and the land belongs to the people of usa.


Russia has conquered The Crimean Peninsular and it is now their territory. Yet The U.S. was not happy.




the U.S. State Department said: “We do not, nor will we, recognize Russia’s attempted annexation and call on President Putin to end his country’s occupation of Crimea.”


www.theatlantic.com...

So yes you are a hypocrite x 100





posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:21 AM
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There will be ANTIFA and BLM Terrorists there. But so will the military and national guard.

www.politico.com...



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Would it be too harsh for me to say... Go for it!

Hand then a few sticks of dynamite and tell them to have at it. Make sure to give it to the most retarded looking champ in the crowd and tell them that the only way they can achieve this is by unity. They must all go together to accomplish this ... heh... historical moment!
edit on 30-6-2020 by StallionDuck because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: alldaylong

I wouldnt say we stole the land. I would say we conquered the people and the land belongs to the people of usa.

Anyone who thinks differently is still going by the bs history taught in grade school. It's not reality.


So any future invasion by any country that occupies land, The U.S. should keep it's nose out of it then ?

I seem to recall The U.S. got all high and mighty when Russia occupied Ukraine.

As they say, all's fair in love and war.





Has it occurred to you that:

a) Time were different in the past. Conquering was a thing that every friggin Nation did. Not just whites.
b) The USA might have taken learning from the past as the reason they stop tyrants nowadays.
c) you are bothered about the wrong part of this post?

History is fluid and just because it doesn't fit in with the current belief system doesn't mean it has to be erased. It's history. As a matter of fact in just a few decades, people might have the same values as Victorians had and strongly believe they are right and then they have to put up all those statues again.
Why not just leave stuff and teach children about it?
I am still totally pissed off about those idiots who burned down all the libraries that could tell us about our own history.
Guess what, I wouldn't care if they would show us bad or good history. It would be better than emptiness and guesswork.
I am pissed off about all the statues they destroyed in the Middle East. That time it was another idiot non reason to do so. religion and being against the past.
Now it's perceived white supremacy.
Tomorrow it will be some other stupid non reason to destroy stuff some cretins disagree with temporarily.

I am pissed off about all idiots that destroy stuff rather than teach. The only reason I can come up with is that their reasons are worse than the actual history and they can't afford people to find out. There is no other reason for destruction of books, statues or music. Only the fear of losing out to the other side. Which shows me that none of the destroyers ever 100% believe that their cause is strong enough to survive all those historic facts.

If you are sure that you are right, you won't need to destroy anything.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

They get their own land - Their own rules - casinos... What more do they want?

I get the problems they went through having their land, like many, many other nations and peoples, taken away from them but that was the past. We can't live in the past.

I say this and there is a flow of native blood in my veins.

United or Separate. What shall it be?

I would LOVE to have land I didn't have to pay taxes on.

I would LOVE to be able to put a casino in my front yard.

I would LOVE to have my very own police department, schools, roads, and so forth that is out of government reach.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Hecate666




Time were different in the past. Conquering was a thing that every friggin Nation did. Not just whites


I only need to reply to that part of your post.

What do you think is causing all the civil unrest in The U.S. at present ? The very thing you have posted.

You are a prize idiot.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: network dude

The illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia occurred in 2014. Why are you trying to bring Trump into this?



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

I'm no hypocrite, russia had nothing to do with the north American continent being conquered. I could care less about other countries.

Call me all the names you want, but this land was conquered and its peoples subjugated.

How am I a hypocrite?



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Maybe Mount Rushmore is not the wisest of choices for a rally.

Right now our country is not in a good place. Why play into the madness and add fuel to the fire.

Where ever he holds his rally, his message will be well distributed, and both sides will have their chances to video and word edit sufficiently to sell their toxic mind goo.

This seems like another game being played on the people by both parties. They will keep escalating the insanity until we stop listening and playing the game, or until we wake up and realize their is no America left.


We the people need to start fighting for we the people, and we need to start fighting the right enemy. It is time for the ants to wake up.

"Those puny ants outnumber us a hundred to one and if they ever figure that out there goes our way of life! It's not about food, it's about keeping those ants in line." -Hooper'


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posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:56 AM
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Native Americans captured and owned slaves, practiced genocide and conquered lands from other tribes.
Why is this never mentioned?



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
Actually I think it’s an ugly scar on an incredibly beautiful natural piece of wilderness
Not saying it should be removed but I think it’s ugly


Ditto on both accounts. I personally think it's hideous to behold & ruins an otherwise very pretty landscape.

I DO have an issue with just blasting it into smithereens, however. Regardless of how visually ugly you & I or anyone else thinks it is, it was still a lot of work that went into carving it.

Carefully sectioned and removed to be reassembled elsewhere I can get behind, though, but it's a massive monument that would need a pretty big chunk of land to display. Maybe re-purpose defunct/fallow farmland somewhere in the Plains region? Make the best of both at once? IDK, it's just an idea to meet both sides in the middle that is probably both too expensive and too tedious to actually accomplish.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Hmmm...by the same logic, we probably shouldn't have inauguration events in front of the Washington monument either.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: alldaylong

The op was about American lands not foreign, I dont see why you want to try and change the subject here. This land was conquered, it no longer belongs to the natives except for a few small areas we granted to them.

And nothing about my post was hypocritical. Had the Russians done the same overseas somewhere I could care less.


They can't argue without straw man, putting words in your mouth. "OH SO YOU MEAN... X?"



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:03 AM
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Interesting that something as simple as "South Dakota's Mount Rushmore Fireworks Celebration 2020" has caused such a ruckus.
Independence Day celebrations are in no way a new occurrence.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I am not saying never.

I am saying walk away from the gas pump, before you light your cigarette.

Give things a chance to calm down and for people to find a place were they feel some security and normalcy. They are being hit too often and from too many places, to know what to think or what to do. They can't seem to walk away from all the constant hype.


As the President, maybe if he set an example, he could give the country room to breathe.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Native Americans captured and owned slaves, practiced genocide and conquered lands from other tribes.
Why is this never mentioned?



Because real history isn't allowed.




posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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Leftists, enabled by the Democrat establishment, are trying to uninvent America as an idea.

They HATE The Enlightenment. They hate all the bottom-up philosophy and natural law that underpins the US Constitution.

This is a communist revolution.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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Disclaimer: I have never been to Mt. Rushmore, I have no standing allegiance to any political party and I think running around destroying statues is mostly a waste of time currently being used by the mainstream propaganda machine to stir up tensions.

However I also believe Mt. Rushmore is not a typical case. I recall watching a great documentary on the subject years ago. Might have been the PBS doc but I am not 100% on that.

Regardless it opened my eyes to some of the deeper truths behind the history of the monument. I highly recommend anyone that truly has interest in this subject to further research how this all came to be.

Basically in a very brief nutshell, the black hills region was one of the mast major strongholds for Native Americans. Several tribes handed together in the region and after a few “wins” were completely stomped out. Like the US soldiers massacred women and children in the dead of night bad.

The Black Hills region, particularly the mountain that MT Rushmore is carved into is not just a sacred site for the natives either. It is their sacred site. It’s where all of the universe started. Where the Gods came down and where humanity began. It’s all very much alive to them in ways our culture just can’t process. I imagine it would be like Mt Olympus or Jerusalem Xs 10.

So after the US government wipes out the native population they officially hand over the sacred lands to the remaining few. Until of course gold was discovered in the hills a few years later. Then all bets were off and the US went back on it’s word.

Gutzon Borglum is the sculpture of MT Rushmore and seemed to be a devout racist towards everybody. He worked with the daughters of the confederacy, the KKK and even seemed to have a thing for disliking Jews. A truly top notch guy. He specifically targeted MT. Rushmore and the decided on Presidents specifically to insult the natives. He saw it as a way to remind the Sioux of who there conquerors were each and every day. That seems pretty messed up and vindictive and just all around evil in my mind.

Some say blow it up, some say change the faces etc. the reality is it was never “our” mountain to mess with. We conquered it, forced the Sioux to abide by our laws, broke our own laws to regain control of the region and then vandalized their God with faces of men that played integral roles in conquering their ancestors. Talk about salting an open wound....

The Sioux people still come to the mountain and cry.

It just seems like a much more messed up situation then our average run of the mill racist statue these days.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

The illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia occurred in 2014. Why are you trying to bring Trump into this?


Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dood, read the OP. no, read it for real.

Good lord, the drugs must be epic where you live.



posted on Jun, 30 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

When they blow this thing all to hell can I have Teddy R's pornstache? It puts Ron Jeremy's to shame.



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