Does the Coming Liberal Take Over of America Scare You ?

a reply to: AlienView

It's sort of a catch-22. If the liberals did win and take over like it seems they would, it would be good and bad. Bad because we all know what their goal is, but good in the sense that that will be what it takes for the normal people to finally have the initiative to get up off of their ass and do what this country has been needing to do since politics got so polarizing that I couldn't even disagree with a democrat without being called a racist. That means secede and let the left have their own rules in their own government in their own land.

Everything scares me. Things are just plain rotten right now no matter how you look at it. It's not just the Democrats. It's everything. This society has always been a stinking mess. Frankly, the misanthrope in me does not see humanity as being capable of doing anything that isn't rotten to the core.

What I don't like (and what most people don't like) is abrupt changes that don't improve my circumstances in the slightest. I also don't like gradual changes that will eventually leave me swimming in a pot of boiling water.

Anyway, liberals, conservatives. They all suck in their own ways. They pretty much all have world domination as their ultimate goal and just have different ideas about how to get there and what flavor of world domination they want at the end. I'm an individualist at heart but I'm also a weak individual so I'm an impossible contradiction. I'm only truly happy when people leave me alone but I can't support myself and can't fend for myself so I need to beg for the help of people I can't stand and don't want the conditions they place on that support.

I don't think the liberals/socialists really want to help people like me. They just want to use our desperation to get power and control. They want to make us dependent upon their system and then they want to gradually ramp up the absurdity of the stipulations and conditions

The conservatives obviously hate people like me because they see me as a lazy bum (Which I am but I was born this way so # them anyway).

The US mainstream media is gearing up to start another wave of panic. This will be for H1 N1 swine flu 2.0.

Be aware: www.bbc.com...

originally posted by: AlienView

The Liberals keep moving further left - Going from being reasonable Socialists to out and out Communists.

They are three different things.

I'm not arguing with your point (although I disagree). I'm questioning the way you frame your argument. Start with a false premise and the whole thing is fatally flawed.

a reply to: Willtell


I NEVER KID with you Willy Boy , I Figured you Out LONG AGO on here . You Cannot accept a TRUTH even if it Slapped You in the Face . I Also have Questions about your Degree of Patriotic Feelings towards the U.S. , I am Pretty Sure you HATE US . Sad Really , what a Terrible Mind to Taste ........

President Donald Trump - The man who wanted to 'make America great again', his way and accrding to his political beliefs,
did have a chance. After all as he keeps pointing out - the economy was booming with unemployment lower than ever,
until, until disaster in the form of a Worldwide pandemic wrecked the economy, of not only the United States, but the rest of the World as well.

Even before the pandemic, Trump's inabilty to even see the Liberals point of view, nixed his Presidency and just continued the same old politcal warfare between ideologies that has been going on for many years - and keeps gettiing worse.

Now let's flash back to 1929 and the Great Depression - because like it or not, and even though it is being caused by a
diseanse - The economy is in a mess with unemployment beginning to rival the Great Depression.

I read that while Herbert Hoover, the President who was in power when the depression started, did not believe government had the right to stiep in and try to end it - He was a true Republican.

Trump is also a true Republican, and even though he gave in to the stimulus money - you could bet that he and the
rest of the Republican Pary were not happy to do so.

Back then, during the Great Depression,Frankiin Roosevelt won the Presidency and began a series of government programs
to get us out of the depression - they helped, but unfortunately it was only WWII that actually brought the depression
to an end.

Now Joe Biden is old and no Franklin Roosevelt, and Democrats so called Liberals have gone too far left for most people
in this country - And to restate my initial premise, I'm scared of them gaining full control.

So while this super crisis pandemic depression is going on, I'll say it again, our best bet is to let Biden have the Presidency
and concentrate on trying to prevent the Democrats from taking Congress, especially the Senate.

And even if you'r an Atheist - Pray that it all works out

a reply to: Trueman

At the end of the day, the blame lays at someone's feet, and someone is justified in their actions...
Those who do not stand in love, fold in the presence of truth.
If these commies steal the election, what ever is left of them are going to be writing books for years to come on how to execute a Revolution CORRECTLY and with gusto.

originally posted by: AlienView
President Donald Trump - The man who wanted to 'make America great again', his way and accrding to his political beliefs,
did have a chance.

But how do you know that's what he really wanted? The man is clearly not only a pathological liar (like most politicians) but is also a politician and a business man. He is also clearly mentally unstable. Which such people usually do things that don't make any rational sense and live in their own distorted realities.

originally posted by: AlienView

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
If people are going to vote for liberals after all the lies and what they put this country through, something is seriously wrong with their minds.

Delusional, I guess liberals like the swamp.

DELUSIONAL

- How many people has Trump hired and fired since being President? - Just like his TV game show
- your fired!

And how many are in jail ? - Like his own personal lawyer Michael Cohen, or.......

Paul Manafort - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Paul_Manafort
FCI Loretto. Notes. Paul John Manafort Jr. (/ˈmænəfɔːrt/; born April 1, 1949) is an American former lobbyist, political consultant, lawyer, and convicted felon of tax and bank fraud. A long-time Republican Party campaign consultant, he chaired the Trump Presidential campaign team from June to August 2016.

And don't forget Roger Stone:
Again from Wikipedia
Roger Jason Stone[a] (born Roger Joseph Stone Jr.; August 27, 1952) is an American conservative political consultant,[3] lobbyist, author, and convicted felon. In November 2019, subsequent to the Mueller Report and Special Counsel investigation, he was convicted on seven counts, including witness tampering and lying to investigators. On February 20, 2020, he was sentenced to 40 months in federal prison.


Hell, he's drained the swamp and replaced it with a cesspool

Unless you want to tell us it's all part of a vast Liberal conspiracy to 'frame' people connected with Donald Trump?

You can stay in your Conservative delusional World up to election day - But Trump is going to lose and probably lose big.

What I'm afraid of is all this corruption is going to give the Liberals too much power

You see Liberals are not corrupt - But being the righteous bastards many of them are, and if they win both the
Presidency and Congress, We, we who believe in the United States and its Constitution are also going to lose
- We will lose the United States and the Constitution

There’s much I don’t like about Trump, but my choices are: vote for Biden, waste my vote on a third-party candidate, or not vote at all. Either Trump or Biden will be our next president, and I prefer Trump over Biden. The lesser of two evils, like everyone I vote for.

originally posted by: ErEhWoN
a reply to: Scapegrace

A bloody civil war could erupt if the radical Left keeps pushing its agenda.

A bloody civil way HAS erupted.

It's the blood of the many more births attributed to People of Color. Conservatives are predominately of one ethnic region. The Left, predominately People of Color, from many ethnic regions.

Conservatives awash with the taste of defeat, once again. Will they ever the learn the world is Progressive.

It might be inevitable given how deeply divided we are.

It is a minority that are 'divided'. And their numbers dwindle with every dawn that breaks. 40 years from now, America will be a very different place for conservatives.

Very different indeed.

It’s very different for all Americans because of immigration, not because of African Americans, who’ve comprised anywhere from 10-13 percent of our population since 1870.

According to Pew Research, just over half our population growth since the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is due to immigrants and their descendants. This has drastically changed our demographics.

The United States was 90 percent white in WWII and still 85 percent white in 1965. Now it’s 60 percent white, but I, a white man, am supposed to be perfectly OK with that, otherwise, I’m a racist. If you know of any place or ethnic group in the world where the majority inhabitants were delighted to be replaced, let me know. Ask Native Americans throughout the Western Hemisphere how they feel about it.

Pew projected that immigration will account for 88 percent of our population growth between 2015 and 2065. That’s more than 100 million more people in America solely because of immigration. That oughta be great for the environment, right?

I guess we’re going to find out if the United States can remain a First World nation without having a white- or East Asian-majority population. There has never been one that didn’t have either.

originally posted by: ErEhWoN
a reply to: PhatalError

I Am Irish/Hawaiian/Portuguese ethnicity. Basically a mutt mix of some severely pooped on races. I am very right leaning.

Welcome to life as a Unicorn on the wrong side of history.

Racism is only a thing because people want something from nothing and are ashamed to admit their own failures.

So white cops pulling over black drivers to harass/beat them is that fault of blacks because they want something from nothing?

Racism is a thing because of ignorance. Period.

How about you actually set your mind on changing the status quo by setting an example rather than getting high and drunk and complaining about how the world doesnt cater to you.

Don't drink.
Love getting high.
Don't complain.
I cook, so don't need catering.

Chickens are coming....

Did you miss my thread about black-on-white violent crime stats? Any rationale, honest person reviewing DOJ interracial crime stats can see that blacks violently victimize whites by a 5.5-to-1 ratio — about 550,000 times in 2018 versus 95,000. That’s for rape, sexual assault, aggravated assault and robbery. The homicide and nonnegligent manslaughter ratio isn’t quite as bad: 3.4-to-1. You gotta stop kidding yourself that black people are victims in America. They do so much better here compared to any black-majority nation with the possible exception of the Bahamas. I have so many stats from credible sources to support my position. But none of it ever changes the minds of liberals or progressives.

originally posted by: PhatalError

originally posted by: Scapegrace
I have no idea who the next president will be. Anything can happen in the next four months.

I see parallels between the United States and the late Roman Republic. The imperial era was preceded by instability caused by civil wars and political power struggles. We’re becoming more and more destabilized by our own relatively bloodless civil wars and the impasse caused by an almost perfect balance of power between left and right. Neither side can govern effectively.

A bloody civil war could erupt if the radical Left keeps pushing its agenda. The radicals believe their time has come. But if the heavily armed right feels threatened enough, there could be a very one-sided bloodbath. I also see parallels with the Spanish Civil War; radicals and reactionaries ruthlessly killing each other.

It’s not hard to imagine a dictatorship replacing our republic in the near future. It might be inevitable given how deeply divided we are.

Honestly imo, it needs to be an independent libertarian. Someone like Jo Jorgenson. We as a collective need to get past the bipartisanship of it all. Find a middle ground. Stop the whole left vs right mentality and start thinking about what benefits our country as a whole regardless of partisanship ideals.

I don’t know if anything can heal the divide at this point. I could possibly vote for a compromise candidate, but it seems to me conservatives are much more willing to compromise than the Left. And voting for a third-party candidate is a total waste. The only way it can affect an election is by denying votes to either the Republican or Democratic candidate.

originally posted by: UKTruth
It's not a liberal takeover.
It is a Marxist takeover.

At this stage, it is impossible to stop. The people who know what is coming are preparing - ensuring that they are not targets. They are drifting into the shadows because they need to keep themselves and their families safe.
The people who are really going to regret what is coming are those conservatives that still think that the Marxists are not going to win in November and those moderates and real liberals who are so anti-Trump they don't know what they are ushering in.

America is already gone, some already know it, others will find out the hard way.

I have this growing feeling of dread you may be right. For more than 50 years they’ve undermined the traditional values that made America so good for so many. We have the power to stop them utterly, to destroy them. We have the guns but are too decent to use them. Hundreds of millions of firearms and trillions of rounds of ammo. And the skill and confidence to use them. It was an extreme Leftist (and nationalist), Mao Zedong, who said political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. He was right.

originally posted by: AlienView
Trump is also a true Republican, and even though he gave in to the stimulus money - you could bet that he and the
rest of the Republican Pary were not happy to do so.

I totally agree with this.

True Republicans talk about keeping spending and debt in check but instead blow money just like the drunken slobs that they are. They haven't found a whore they aren't willing to make it rain dollars on, bless their small government hearts.

I will never be worried about liberalism or leftists as long as Trump is the president.

Let's see what happens in November

My fellow comrades greetings from Moscow we love Trump too.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: AlienView
Trump is also a true Republican, and even though he gave in to the stimulus money - you could bet that he and the
rest of the Republican Pary were not happy to do so.

I totally agree with this.

True Republicans talk about keeping spending and debt in check but instead blow money just like the drunken slobs that they are. They haven't found a whore they aren't willing to make it rain dollars on, bless their small government hearts.

No elected official seems to give a damn about national debt. We’re leaving a mountain of it to our children and grandchildren. Servicing it will eventually consume so much of the budget there won’t be enough to pay for existing programs, let alone new ones.

originally posted by: Scapegrace

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: AlienView
Trump is also a true Republican, and even though he gave in to the stimulus money - you could bet that he and the
rest of the Republican Pary were not happy to do so.

I totally agree with this.

True Republicans talk about keeping spending and debt in check but instead blow money just like the drunken slobs that they are. They haven't found a whore they aren't willing to make it rain dollars on, bless their small government hearts.

No elected official seems to give a damn about national debt. We’re leaving a mountain of it to our children and grandchildren. Servicing it will eventually consume so much of the budget there won’t be enough to pay for existing programs, let alone new ones.

WHAT NATIONAL DEBT OWED TO WHO

A group of bankers that live off it - That live off the debt based economic system !!!

We owe them nothing and they will right off every last dime of it to keep thier Monoply game going.

Any Republican that tells you about the naional debt - like money is holly - and then panders to the Christian Rgiht to
get votes is more of a hypcrite than those Democrats that believe eliminating the Second Amendment will make us safe.

As a representative from the Federal Reserve said on the air a couple of months ago - We will not let the economy collapse we will just print more money.

You can bet they will - Their money is only worth the power 'We the People' give it
- Without us it is not worth the paper it is printed on

a reply to: AlienView

WHAT NATIONAL DEBT OWED TO WHO

Owed to us, mostly.


A little dated, the total has probably gone up somewhat.
source

We will not let the economy collapse we will just print more money.

Yes, as an emergency measure this can be helpful. But it also has consequences in the the long term. Kicking the can, so to speak. Certainly not a fiscally conservative point of view.

Not at all the facisy right wing scares and bothers me