What would the next four years look like

If Biden wins this upcoming election?

I didn't place this in the mudpit, because I want serious answers.

I've got my own opinions, which I will share as the thread develops.

To start with I feel like the far left will will vindicated and there will be four years of smugness coming from that.

But maybe they won't feel vindicated. Maybe it won't be enough. Biden doesn't exactly represent what they've been pushing for.

What about all the current investigations into Burisma, Bidens, Obama, and Hillary? Will they just stop? It could continue. The same people will be in the Supreme court.

Will Trump continue to be the target of Democrats and the left?

I don't know. I'm just kind of mulling over things, and would like to read some other people's opinions. Especially if they are more knowledgeable in the matter.

Please no trolling. Also, this isn't about what will happen if Trump wins the election. I just want us to talk about what will happen in the following four years during a Biden/who friggin knows presidency.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Please no trolling. Also, this isn't about what will happen if Trump wins the election. I just want us to talk about what will happen in the following four years during a Biden/who friggin knows presidency.

I'm not so sure it matters who's at the helm, aparently the potus has no real power anyways, the governors of each state hold the cards so potus is a distraction.

The ruling class have their guy in no matter what we think is supposed to happen, so to me it seems to make no difference, the rich get richer and t h e poor get poorer, I have no doubt t h at trend will continue until critical mass is reached, then it all gets burned down.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well, I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I've been telling everyone for years that governors hold more sway than the president does, and for years I've had people tell me I'm wrong.

Well, like I also say all the time. There's what people are legally allowed to do, and then there's what people actually do.

Can I get more specifics from ya though? I want to hear what you have to say.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Specifics, sure. At the current rate of decline the U.S will become a failed state, China will continue to grow as a global player, Russia will also become stronger and gain ground regionally.

I would not want to be in the U.S for what happens next if Biden does in fact win and I'm on the fence at this point it will be a disaster, the trump supporters will lose the plot and act out, I suspect the fallout will be far worse than any leftist could dream up.

In my opinion Biden is so much worse than trump, it's surreal we've even reached this point, the only logical conclusion is it is a planned failure which will result in the military on the streets and um well I'm not qualified to postulate further.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Interesting.

What do you suppose our military would do? It's not like they are just going to pack their bags and say oh well.

As far as China getting more power. I'd say that's a possibility. Russia maybe as well. I think it's too soon to say for sure. It could be that we're really in the lead up for an actual WW3.

Going back to the US. If shtf we'd be at a potential disadvantage if we do in fact have a CW2 and also potentially have to deal with a WW3. The CW2 would have to be quick and ugly to be able to focus on WW3, because I just don't see the US just sitting out of a WW.

With the current level of technology and globalisation. I don't see another world war being a drawn out series of battles, so the US can't afford to wait until the last minute like the last one.

Which I guess the US didn't really wait until the last minute with supplying arms to Britain and all.

But, I really want to focus on just the US.

I can see Biden actually maintaining four years as president. He may not actually be removed. Even if he does indeed begin to really suffer from dementia I feel like the White House and media would just hide it from us, keep him out of public, and have the WH press secretary deliver updates or something.

Biden can be a puppet and everytime the Democrats want to pass an executive order or have Biden's approval they could probably just get him to sign whatever they want him to. Then, do a photo op of him because in a photo he won't have to say anything. Hell, even in a video they could just tell him to keep his mouth shut.

Edit to add:

Also, when the hell are we going to hear who is going to be the VP? We've got less than half a year to go until November. Are they really going to wait until last minute to make an announcement? That's what really perturbs me. I have no doubt they know who they want, it's just that it's probably they know it's going to be a very unlikeable person.

I guess at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they actually tried to wait until the actual election.

I thoroughly believe Biden will have to step down within 1-2 years handing over the reins to is VP likely Kamala Harris or Stacy Abrams . Till that happens Biden the special interest puppet will rarely be seen in public, when he does there will be empty words and promises, rampant unemployment will continue, businesses will not return of will leave for greener pastures. UBI will be the first on the agenda, considering the job prospects and the economy it will have to be. Somehow I don't see that as the start of a utopian society, but it will quell any potential dissent till they can tighten their grip with COVID monitoring leading to mandatory vaccines, rolling shutdowns, and again other unforeseen issues.

The immediate issues addressed Biden will turn to Green Deal legislation, hammering what's left of our manufacturing into submission, look for automakers to abandon plants, and potentially leave altogether. Cities will be slammed with regulatory restrictions large areas become vacant, as the population scatters for work or more likely areas with lower costs of living

America's last remaining strength as a consumer nation will seriously be curtailed if not eliminated. Now vacant prime property will be bought up by foreign nations and entities, China, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere have to be licking their lips. We won't be conquered by guns but by greed and graft, as prime real estate can be had at fractions of their former value

The NWO will be advanced. Gun bans, higher taxes, military cuts to help pay for social programs, more abortion and public shaming for anyone who goes against the new agenda. There will be more cities and states turned into sh!t holes as the border is reopened to whoever can get here for we the tax payers will pay for everything to include Medicare for all.

Electric bills will jump after probably two years with some new green deal forced down our throats and CNN/MSN will be lauded as the one true news source and all good citizens should listen to their news (propaganda.)

The great Democratic Socialist state will be born but not by Biden as his V.P. will be the real power in that democratic controlled white house as the V.P. will probably be president within the first two years after Biden commits one too many fopauxs.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

What do you suppose our military would do? It's not like they are just going to pack their bags and say oh well.

The military follow orders like they have been trained to do, they don't make the rules or think for themselves, they do as they are told, anyone telling you otherwise is likely either delusional or working for someone else.

I'm concerned about the U.S and it's ability to project force, there is a lot of infighting and serious maintenance flaws.

Seems to me the big dog has become lazy and indifferent, nothing good will come from it.

To address your edit, I have no idea, I don't really understand the election process as it is.

If Biden wins Trump supporters will lose the plot?!?!?!?!?

Irony is lost

What a clown

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
If Biden wins Trump supporters will lose the plot?!?!?!?!?

Irony is lost

What a clown

So do you have anything intelligent to add to the conversation or is mud all you have to sling ?

a reply to: putnam6

I can see that happening, since foreign nationals have already been buying up a lot of real estate.

I can also see a case for UBI being one of the first things pushed out the gate from the get go.

Biden ain’t winning

If he does. Trump supporters and republican voters will accept the loss

Then the United States will follow the path that was planned before the last election. The disgusting U.N. agenda 21 and sOcIaLiSm. The political ideology of morons and dictators.

Even with the overt cheating of the leftists and the dEms, Trump will win with ease.

And “lose the plot” will be an understatement when that happens.

a reply to: 727Sky

Hmm. I don't really have anything to comment about that. I don't really disagree with anything you said.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well, I was in the military, and I always bucked the rules whenever I could get away with it. I never really conformed to the whole do whatever you're told to do, and don't think about it thing.

And I met a lot of people who were didn't confirm either. The military is a paycheck nowadays there isn't really a while lot of "blind devotion" anymore. Maybe just because I was in the Navy, and we're a rowdy bunch. But there were constant scuffles behind closed doors of petty officers and chiefs and officers getting into it.

Regardless, I don't see the military just saying screw it if Russia or China does come knocking. I think they're more likely to hold the borders as an internal battle happens.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

That's a reasonable view, curiously though what if there's no leadership, how does the military function without guidance, I'm not military obviously but I was always under the impression there is a chain of command.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Simply put probably the Pentagon.

The US has what is called Combatant Commands. There is one for every region of the planet. If there isn't a President to act as the Commander in Chief then the responsibilities and authority would probably go to the actual military commanders the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Right, curiously then who is that ?

Who would take the reigns assuming the shtf, who are the military commanders and the joint chiefs of staff, who decides they have the job. Oh man I have so many questions.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well, this is going to drift my thread, but start here.

www.jcs.mil...

This will tell you about the JCS council.

Basically if you've ever watched a movie or whatever where there is war going on or about to happen and there is a big table and the leader is at one end the Joint Chiefs of Staff are the people sitting at the table advising the leader what the best course of action would be.

In that link you can click any of the blue hyperlinks, and you can learn more about each person in that committee.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Here is a wikipedia page that breaks it down in a more informative way.

But to go even further. The Joint Chiefs of Staff are really just the old dudes who have done their time and either kissed a lot of ass or kicked a lot of ass to get to where they are.

The people in charge of combatant commands are called combatant commanders(go figure, right?)

Here's a wikipedia page for that:

en.m.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=Each%20combatant%20command%20(CCMD%2C%20also,by%20the%20Secretary%20of%20Defense.

Underneath them are the actual admirals or generals who run command their individual fleets, ships, regiments, corps, or whatever.

Then, in the Navy and Coast Guard the ships or smaller commands have captains or commanders. While the Army
and Air Force have a variety of Generals, the Marines have Colonels and Generals.

My memory of other branches rank structure is poor.

But a ship is made up of departments. Each department responsible for a specific thing that makes a ship functioning ship.

My department was Weapons. So, my department is what made a ship a fighting ship.

We had a Warrant Officer, but he left. Warrant Officers are badass officers you don't mess with. They know their #, and don't take # from anyone, except MAYBE the Captain.

As far as the regular commissioned officers go we had a few DIVOs, or Division Officer, each responsible for a specific Division in the Department. We had a Senior Chief in charge of the Department, and a Chief who was the Leading Chief Petty Officer, then a Chief in charge of each Division. Then, we had a 1st Class Petty Officer who was the Lead Petty Officer, then we were supposed to have a 1st Class Petty Officer in charge of each Division, but we were a Cruiser, and manning isn't like what it used to be so it is what is is, and it was up to me or my buddy to be the "Work Center Supervisor" for our Work Center.

I don't kiss ass, so my buddy got it, because he looooved to crawl up in the Chief's Mess booty cracks.

So, I became the RPPO, or the Repair/Parts Petty Officer. So, while he got all the credit, I was the one scheduling maintenance, assigning maintenance, ordering parts, and maintaining inventory.

We were both 2nd Class Petty Officers.

We were in charge of two more 2nd Class Petty Officers, and a 3rd Class Petty Officer.

Underneath the Petty Officer ranks are the Seamen(E-3), Apprentices(E-2), and Recuits(E-1). They are pretty much the people who are the unsung heros of the ship. They either love ya or hate ya, and that can be good or bad.

Either you spend all day hunting em down, or being there to to give them life lessons and how to deal with being an adult and guiding them through bad financial decisions and #ty relationships. After a while you gain their respect and they make your life a hell of a lot easier.

So, that's the military structure in a nutshell.

- Covid-19 will magically disappear
- The EU will gain new power of the UK because the US will work with them to shut the UK out of world trade
- Republican targets will be prosecuted on made-up charges and jailed for life. This includes President Trump and his family
- The President will also be financially ruined by lawsuits overseen by activist judges
- General Flynn will be rearrested and go to jail
- He will be one of many people who dared to stand up to the Marxists
- Social influencers online who supported President Trump will be targeted for financial ruin and/or jail
- ALL media outlets not singing the praises of the new left-wing govt will be closed down
- Massive immigration of poor people who will be grateful for just enough to survive and will keep voting Democrat
- All services will begin the journey to state control
- All freedom of expression will be gone
- People will start disappearing in the night never to be seen again and their friends or colleagues will be too scared to speak up
- Most of all, the majority of Republicans and Independents will stay quiet and just accept it so as not to be targeted

- Over a fairly short period of time, the USA will be transformed into a country of very very few elites overseeing 99.99% of the population in poverty, with middle class gone.

originally posted by: UKTruth

- Covid-19 will magically disappear
- The EU will gain new power of the UK because the US will work with them to shut the UK out of world trade
- Republican targets will be prosecuted on made-up charges and jailed for life. This includes President Trump and his family
- The President will also be financially ruined by lawsuits overseen by activist judges
- General Flynn will be rearrested and go to jail
- He will be one of many people who dared to stand up to the Marxists
- Social influencers online who supported President Trump will be targeted for financial ruin and/or jail
- ALL media outlets not singing the praises of the new left-wing govt will be closed down
- Massive immigration of poor people who will be grateful for just enough to survive and will keep voting Democrat
- All services will begin the journey to state control
- All freedom of expression will be gone
- People will start disappearing in the night never to be seen again and their friends or colleagues will be too scared to speak up
- Most of all, the majority of Republicans and Independents will stay quiet and just accept it so as not to be targeted

Yes, because all of that, or something close to it, happened during the Obama administration, didn't it?
Oh... wait. (Checks notes)
Nope, ignore that, it didn't.
Dude, get a grip.