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Wanted: Honest intelligent productive thinking to resolve the issue God exists or not.

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posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 10:51 PM
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Evidence is a body of facts that support a statement. God is not a fact.




posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Buzzkill.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TzarChasm

Buzzkill.


Thanks. You too.



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 11:25 PM
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God is not a fact.

I just fact-checked that statement.
It seems to be true, based upon the definition of Fact.

I would quote the definition of fact, but then, I'd be guilty of insipid regurgitation. See www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 5 2020 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: TzarChasm



God is not a fact.

I just fact-checked that statement.
It seems to be true, based upon the definition of Fact.

I would quote the definition of fact, but then, I'd be guilty of insipid regurgitation. See www.abovetopsecret.com...


Looks like we're finally getting somewhere.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm



Looks like we're finally getting somewhere.

Where I wanted to get was out of this thread.
It reminds me of Origins and Creationism threads, which I never enjoyed participating in.

I think that I summed up my opinion of this thread best when I wrote:



Even if you happened to be a University Professor teaching an advanced class in Metaphysics, you would only be able to have consensus among your students until they got their final grade in your class. Afterward, they would just go on with their own lives; praying to their personal gods, or going about their daily lives with no reference to a god at all.
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 03:27 AM
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originally posted by: pthena

When and how was this manifest? To manifest is to show plainly; to make clear or evident to the eye or the understanding.


What is appearing ever presently is what is showing plainly........those that see see....those that hear hear!

The truth is hiding in plain sight.

What is (God) is denied in favour of what was before or after.........
Before and after only appear in stories....but all stories appear in God.

God is the ever present aware space......nothing can happen outside of God.

Words and conceptual thought produce the illusion that there is more than there is.
What is there prior to words and stories about someone living a life?

I highly recommend listening to the video if you want to unlearn everything.....and then God will be unveiled.

God is not a concept......God is non conceptual.
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 04:00 AM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
Evidence is a body of facts that support a statement. God is not a fact.

Is what is actually appearing to happen a fact or a lie?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: Pachomius

One. That you have no right to dictate my faith to me.

Two. You obviously do not have any intention of honest dialogue.

Three. You will not answer one of the age old questions that pairs with god. Do you have a soul. Then in an attempt to dodge one of the most basic questions of existence, you falsely label it religion.

Four. Where did you say your god pulled building material for the universe.

Five. You claim your god is a doer? Then what has your god done for you.

Six. You claim your god cares not for worship? So your god could care less if I believe the universe was created without your god?

Seven. What proof do you have your god created the universe vs a process free of intelligence like the Big Bang.

Let’s see. Your god doesn’t require worship. You cannot cite if souls really exist. You have no real proof how the universe came into being. And you cannot show the universe came into being by a intelligent being you claim doesn’t care if it’s recognized as the creator. So, you effectively showed there is no benefit to debate if your god really exists. And not believing in your god has the same benefit as believing?

Got it.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux


Five. You claim your god is a doer? Then what has your god done for you.


That is hilarious......
There is no 'your god'.

What are you????

The body and everything that appears is just an appearance.....there is nothing that is 'yours'.
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:39 AM
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a reply to: Pachomius

All the while. You claim your god is in every existence. Without physical form? But you demand people to define your god in terms of this existence, in a language not equipment to accurately describe a multi reality / multi dimensional being. And somehow think you grossly impotent definition is adequate?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: neutronflux


Five. You claim your god is a doer? Then what has your god done for you.


That is hilarious......
There is no 'your god'.

What are you????


Just posting in the context setup by Pachomius




originally posted by: Pachomius

My God to His core credit is a doer and not just a talker.




posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:44 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux
So..... what are 'you'??



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:45 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
So..... what are 'you'??



What are you?



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:45 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

By all means go first.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux
The body and everything that appears is just an appearance......nothing is 'yours'.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:47 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux
The body and everything that appears is just an appearance......nothing is 'yours'.



Then this is my post, not your post? Strange.



posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Itisnowagain

By all means go first.


This 2 minute discussion will clear things up!!

Everything is being what it is.......nothing is done by something else.

There is not two.........there is just what is.
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

I don’t play that game. Build your own argument. And if nothing is yours, then why are you linking to some else’s content when you should be able to argue it as your own?
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posted on Jul, 6 2020 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Itisnowagain

I don’t play that game. Build your own argument. And if nothing is yours, then why are you linking to some else’s content when you should be able to argue it as your own?

Nothing is mine.........

What is appearing is just appearing on its own......there is nothing separately doing anything.

What is is alone........it is a movie (Lila/Maya.....the play of life).

Don't waste 2 minutes to find the truth.
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