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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Wide-Eyes


To Bad the Native Britons are not allowed by Law to Own Personal Firearms . It would Solve a lot of your Problems there today through Organized Deterrence of Rebellions .

If we did then it would create a new one and then we would be just like America with their gun problem.

We can own guns btw but you need a valid licence and you can’t just carry them around in public places.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Of course criminals can get guns here in the UK.....but its not quite as easy as you'd imagine.

And the FACT remains that the vast majority, and I mean VAST majority, of criminals choose not to have guns for one reason or another.

There simply aren't anywhere near the number of guns in circulation here in the UK as there are in the US.....there is nowhere near a fraction of the number.
And then there is the added difficulty of getting ammunition.
I can assure you, it is rare as the proverbial rocking horse #, very hard to get hold of and very expensive.

After 13 years of debating this subject it still amazes me that any situation like this in the UK is met with the usual outcry from Second Amendment supporters from the USA.
I don't want to impinge upon your Right to Bear Arms and I understand why you both need and want it....but WE DO NOT NEED SOMETHING SIMILAR.

Comparing the two, again a cliche, really is like comparing apples and oranges .

In rural area's gun ownership is really quite common - with certain restrictions.
There is a need for guns in the countryside, both practical and recreational.

Hardly anyone living in an urban area either needs or wants a gun.

As is usual with these cases, we seem to get distracted with issues around gun ownership instead of getting to the heart of the matter; why are people going around seemingly indiscriminately killing people?
Why are so many people diasaffected, alienated and hateful?

Alas, it seems people are just intent on wanting to impose their own values, morals and opinions on others rather than accepting that some things are just different or that they don't want America's bizarre take on 'freedom' forced upon them.

We in the UK will do as we see fit, just as you in the US will do as you see fit......and that is as it should be.

Oh, this is already so nauseating that people like you hurry to appear in a sad thread like this and write these psychological scripts with your left hand and defend your Swedish model. Of course you speak for all Brittons, no one needs a defence tool, no one wants it. Go ask the families if they wanted a gun and tell them that they are "hateful" and that it's their fault these people are "indiscriminately killing people". Wear your labour party T-shirt so that they realize why it happened. It's not second amendment or nothing. Check the model in let's say Czech republic. Lot of guns and no Chicago. Why? Very little immigrants.

Btw reuters article says they were "observing social distancing in the park"
I dont think Karens would deserve this but I found it interresting. Maybe they harrased the guy for not social distancing, not having a mask?

a reply to: YarlanZey

the above applies to you too.
If you cant carry them then you cant use it in defence.
Germans disarmed their public in the same way. [slow clapping]

a reply to: alldaylong

How long is "some time"...?

Brought to a country where, supposedly, it'll be better. For most, if not the vast majority, it is better. Maybe not great, but better than where they were.

What sort of programs/help are available for refugees to aid in assimilation? I know here in the States that help is, as I understand it, some what hit or miss. Same in Britain?

a reply to: gortex

Via the Chunnel? Or just ferries/boats? Both? I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that airline travel is used as well??

So I guess this was a terrorist attack by a Syrian at the BLM protest? Imagine that, minorities killing minorities at a minority protest against violence and brutality, the irony is just too much.

a reply to: panoz77

A Libyan refugee who has been jailed for an undisclosed crime and then investigated by counter terror cops and let go as they couldn't prove he was s dangerous nutbag.

Now we will have to pay hundreds of thousands on trials and gaol and probably more trials when his sentence is up and it's time to deport him.

Poor Brittons fail to recognize a controlled opposition. Johnson is fake or weak or both.
Things should be and can be fixed fast. Dont wait for a strong national-socialist leader to appear cause you dont want that either and it will happen. They needed a hyperinflation in Germany and people are still too fat to think straight but it may change

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Oh, this is already so nauseating that people like you hurry to appear in a sad thread like this and write these psychological scripts with your left hand and defend your Swedish model.

My post was in response to someone who immediately tried to turn this into a gun control related issue rather than the 'terrorist attack' it now seems to be.

Swedish model?

We make our own laws.....and in this instance the VAST majority of British people support current legislation and have no desire whatsoever to see any sort of relaxation of the relevant laws.

Wear your labour party T-shirt so that they realize why it happened.

This isn't America.
We aren't split down the middle on every single issue.
As out of date and unfit for purpose our party political system is party allegiance does not determine our every thought and opinion.

Opponents of any relaxation of our gun laws cross ALL political parties.....a concept alien to the USA it would seem nowadays.

As for me being a card carrying, t-shirt wearing Labour supporter; way wide of the mark.

Btw reuters article says they were "observing social distancing in the park"

So what?

I think they are just trying to imply it wasn't one of the 'illegal' raves or gatherings that have been reported.

Maybe they harrased the guy for not social distancing, not having a mask?

And maybe they didn't?

Maybe he's just a piece of # terrorist scumbag?

Or maybe we should just wait and see?

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

That's their choice to make, isn't it??

The majority of Britain's populace, the ones who can be bothered to vote, have decided. It's their country. Not mine. Not yours (?). Theirs.

Allow them their choices. Whether I agree with it,or not, and I don't, it's theirs to make.

a reply to: seagull

I question these "absolute majority" numbers. Their country it is but clearly it's being held hostage by the same two party "so that the other guy doesnt win" script Their leaders are in the lead with manipulation, mind control, number of CCTV cams and immigration in Canadian/Swedish style. There are enough Tommy Robinsons there but the system has it's hand over everything. They should protest against Boris along with the left-handed. People should call out Trump on covid hoax.

Have you heard what Boris said?

IF there are lessons to be learned. IF there are changes that need to be made to our legal system to stop such events happening again, we will not hesitate.

Are you laughing yet? After all those years and blood,
he
is
not
sure.
He will need a study and plenty of time I guess. The actors in their parliament will talk and talk like rhetoric class students. These fake intellectuals are posers and traitors.
I could care less but I dont. I care about people in China and North Korea too for some reason.

Edit: It's ok to engage in their affairs because their governments project policies internationally. Their crooked left-handed judges and police, everything. That's why countries comment on other countries internal issues all the time. That's why there are international election observers and human rights observers.

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Seriously dude, the average Brit is an a hole who'll fight anyone over nothing

No way that most of us should be armed.

The population would be down to 20mil in a month.

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

Just for the record: I don't mind you or anyone else commenting on UK issues, that's what this site has always been about.

I just think you are wrong in many of your observations.

Oh, and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is an absolute bell end.

originally posted by: panoz77
So I guess this was a terrorist attack by a Syrian at the BLM protest? Imagine that, minorities killing minorities at a minority protest against violence and brutality, the irony is just too much.

That is absolutely not what happened.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: gortex

Via the Chunnel? Or just ferries/boats? Both? I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that airline travel is used as well??

They use small inflatables to cross the channel , boats provided by people smugglers based in France.
They either make it across and disappear into the night or get picked up by the coast guard and brought to these shores.

Here's one of the many.

originally posted by: gortex

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: gortex

Via the Chunnel? Or just ferries/boats? Both? I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that airline travel is used as well??

They use small inflatables to cross the channel , boats provided by people smugglers based in France.

They are coming across just like our present day tax collectors, Royal family, TPTB did back in the day C'est la vie

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

It's an absolute majority of those who care enough to, well, care.

If you, or I, or whomever, don't care enough to make our opinions known, or acted upon, we've really nothing to complain about, do we??

a reply to: gortex

Of course, they do...

Now I feel like an idiot...I do insist upon forgetting just how narrow the channel is.


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a reply to: seagull

20 miles! LoL.

A bit more if you're dodging the Coast Guard but why bother?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Wide-Eyes


To Bad the Native Britons are not allowed by Law to Own Personal Firearms . It would Solve a lot of your Problems there today through Organized Deterrence of Rebellions .

Playing field leveled. "Community" (bobbies?) in England don't carry firearms. What would happen (if) in the United States we could employ local Police but restricted their ability to carry firearms...only swat was given that privilege. Police would become the equivalent of soft peddle porn 'security' (Paul Blart Mall Cops).