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posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its just google algorithms at play.

Amazes me how some of you think that a giant like Google really cares that much to deliberately target ATS.


It's not about your feelings.
I can replicate the site slowdown and fix it by changing from their server.
They are throttling the site.
Don't take my word on it...try for yourself.
Download the 1.1.1.1 app on phone or change your dns to 1.1.1.1 on your pc.
The site will function like it should.
I don't buy the google dns is slow excuse..this is intentional

It's time to drop the hammer on Google
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posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
It's an actual problem. Google "delisted" more than 1 million of our pages.


^^^ The green lines indicate known Google algorithm updates. The graph represents our actual performance in how often we show in search results, and how often people click. Since May, and the most recent change, they killed us.


Or maybe just maybe people started getting fed up with this place being overrun with shills so that you couldn't even discuss Covid-19 without being labeled as a traitor and a commie.. But yeah.. Google..


Bitter much? You act as if ATS has banned you and everyone else posting anything that isn't pro-Trump. That is certainly not the case.

As far as the traitor and commie comments go, didn't your parents ever teach you the old saying about sticks and stones? People have called me all kind of stuff on here and the worse it is the bigger victory I see it as. I just have a good laugh and say well i guess i got under their skin.

Grow up!


edit on 20-6-2020 by MRinder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:30 PM
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Just saw this thread from OtherSideOfTheCoin titled ATS is Dead which is a very harsh analysis of the situation. The thread was closed for site bashing and I can see why, but I didn't get a chance to respond so I'm going to do it here since OtherSideOfTheCoin is following this thread.

Unfortunately I agree with the arguments that a paid membership system wont work, and a website like ATS doesn't look very attractive to buyers because what we talk about here triggers nearly every censorship system ever made. Society is being convinced that the type of free speech we have on ATS is a very dangerous thing.

We are becoming increasingly paranoid about bots and fake news controlling what people think, so social media platforms are being forced to roll out increasingly draconian censorship algorithms and demonetizing anyone and everyone who isn't completely family friendly, especially opinions they disagree with.

Having said that I think there are definitely people out there who would be willing to invest in ATS, modernize it, update the software, overhaul the advertising strategy, etc. There's definitely enough members on ATS to make a profit if done correctly. I'm betting 90% of us would unblock ads to save ATS.

I think the primary thing people want is security and peace of mind, because we've seen cases of dodgy ads in the past. Admittedly I'm guilty of blocking ads on most sites and it's primarily for security reasons. Even if we solve the problem of people blocking ads, there's still the problem of getting ads if Google wont provide them.


originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

ATS has went from being the top conspiracy web forum in the world with a weekly online radio show, various video projects and celebrity guests to a toxic far-right political cesspit.

I know that some of you don’t like that label but in the current climate that’s what ATS is, it’s a site that no business, celebrity or politician is going to want to be associated with. We are toxic, like it or not.


You paint a picture suggesting it's entirely the fault of ATS for being too far right, but I would ask why should a website be punished for the political leanings of its members. Who would want a typical celebrity or politician here anyway besides a few of the cooler celebs? Why should it be our job to pander to that crowd?

Is it really such a bad thing that one place on the internet not be a leftist echo chamber? I know you dislike it with a passion, to the point where you're applauding the death of ATS. As far as I know ATS is still the top conspiracy website on the internet and there's very deep reasons many of us here distrust mainstream celebs and politicians.


Truth is it’s not really anyone’s fault, ATS is just a dinosaur that has yet to move with the progressive times, it’s a site that isn’t just technologically behind the times but culturally.

Well I'm so sorry that ATS isn't a progressive woke paradise, I guess anyone who doesn't share your political beliefs should be exiled from modern society. The truth is there's actually quite a large number of progressives on ATS otherwise we wouldn't have such vigorous and heated debates about politics so often.

You say on the 2nd page of the thread that ATS has "gone from being predominantly anti-government to pro-government", but we were never anti-government, we were question-government and question-authority, because that's the type of people that conspiracy topics naturally draw in, but yes there is a healthy dose of anarchistic people too.

The reason many people now show strong support for the government is because for the first time since they remember there is a guy in power who isn't a mainstream politician, a guy who will carry out the will of the people. You may strongly disagree with that view but we all have a right to form our own beliefs based on our understanding of the world.

I would also argue that a great deal of Trump supporters are still very much anti-authority, we dislike self-proclaimed authority figures such as the MSM and most mainstream politicians. We gravitate more towards the underdogs who question mainstream authority, which is why Dems like Tulsi Gabbard are surprisingly popular on the right.

Conservatives are much more opposed to big government than people on the left, they're more opposed to laws which control how they live, they're more opposed to strict lockdown laws which prevent people working, which is also relevant here because Covid-19 was cited as one of the reasons ATS took such a hard hit.


Find a new echo chamber.

It’s quite frankly sad to see how many of you seem to be reliant on this site for some kind of cyber self-esteem boost

I'm absolutely certain it has far more to do with friendships and the community we have formed since almost the very start of the internet. It's about having a place to share our feelings and opinions without instantly being censored for wrong-think. If we wanted a self-esteem boost we'd use a platform where more than a few dozen people will read our ramblings.

But don't worry that will happen if ATS dies, many members here will move onto using more popular forms of social media to share their opinions and that will influence more people. That's certainly what I plan to do, I put a quite a bit of work into my writings here even knowing barely anyone sees them, if ATS dies I may as well switch to something more popular.
edit on 20/6/2020 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)


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posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: XCrycek

Do you work for google ? Don’t be naive. It’s free speech that these giant corporations don’t like . Especially a free speech site such as this . The last thing the owners of our planet want is for people to start getting together and talking about how bad we’re getting screwed over by the government, corporations, banks , irs, big pharma , the war machine , big oil , . They want us to fight each other and they done want us talking about how we’re getting screwed over by them . That’ll be tougher for them to continue their objective of complete control . It’s very simple for me to see and without a place like this they’ll have a lot easier time of implementing it



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

The guy who craps in the pool because they have no friends and unpopular opinions comes to mind.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: Thenail

Exactumundo.
What's next, is the scary part.
Thieving, non-producing, ruling class control freaks infested with blackmailed outside influence controlling societies that would/are doing harm to everyone to keep up the bs.

Plandemics, race wars.
What tf is next?
Releasing actual bioweapons, nuking your own people?



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
It's an actual problem. Google "delisted" more than 1 million of our pages.


^^^ The green lines indicate known Google algorithm updates. The graph represents our actual performance in how often we show in search results, and how often people click. Since May, and the most recent change, they killed us.


SEO algorithms are constantly changing, hence why there are several companies selling SEO as a service.

Google, very publicly btw, rolled out an update.
Several business have watched their rankings plummet.
Why? Engagement. Due to covid, who's traveling now? Who's attending concerts? Not surprisingly, a lot of those sites have started to plummet.

Also, you're presenting an incomplete picture and those that think this is "magic" or that someone is sitting somewhere pulling levers may think you're being targeted.


Whats your bounce rate?

Are you aware that not having a ssl cert hurts your rankings?

Whats the average time on site for organic traffic?

What percentage of your entry simply point to a competitor like Twitter?

You don't have a site map do you?


Of the pages un indexed, how many have had any relevant hits over the past 6 months?

As someone who I assume has been actively involved with the development of this site, you should know that EVERYBODY is dealing with seo changes and I can't know why you would present this in the manner that you did.

As if you're being targeted because "free speech". You know thats not the case, so why do it?



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its just google algorithms at play.

Amazes me how some of you think that a giant like Google really cares that much to deliberately target ATS.


It's not about your feelings.
I can replicate the site slowdown and fix it by changing from their server.
They are throttling the site.
Don't take my word on it...try for yourself.
Download the 1.1.1.1 app on phone or change your dns to 1.1.1.1 on your pc.
The site will function like it should.
I don't buy the google dns is slow excuse..this is intentional

It's time to drop the hammer on Google


Use https://__._/wiki/Alternative_DNS for independent DNS servers.

Edit: of course the leaks of wiki are still blocked. Well just use your fav search engine to find them.
edit on 20-6-2020 by Dumbass because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder


I don't think it has anything to do with conspiracy theorist suddenly like an authority figure being popular amongst them. I think it has to do with the change in demographic of conspiracy theorists when it changed from an obscure niche community into a public "see me question this on social media" community. Which if you ask me is deliberately done to effectively shut up the movement.

I think most is discussed in private groups nowadays.

Not ATS their fault btw.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Dumbass
a reply to: ChaoticOrder


I don't think it has anything to do with conspiracy theorist suddenly like an authority figure being popular amongst them. I think it has to do with the change in demographic of conspiracy theorists when it changed from an obscure niche community into a public "see me question this on social media" community. Which if you ask me is deliberately done to effectively shut up the movement.

I think most is discussed in private groups nowadays.

Not ATS their fault btw.


Yes, lets look at ATS for example: How many actual conspiracies are discussed vs just echoing "news"?

Why come here and read posts that just link to twitter or youtube when I can just go to twitter? Or just browse youtube?



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: kiro8lak

I believe its deliberate.

They will destroy all the serious conspiracy forums, even though unfortunately ATS's brand has been besmirched by Trump politics, it was still one of the serious sites with a brand.

The political problem is in fact one of the ways to destroy it and it has worked like a charm.

But yes, indeed, google and the other major platforms have been ordered or enlisted to do away with serious conspiracy memes and to allow the foolish like qanon to exist.

When they label conspiracy as ridiculous and right-wing paranoia, they have won.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

hey dude thanks for the reply.

Quite a few have messaged me with similar interest in that thread I have pm'd the mods asking if it can be reopened with staff keeping a close eye on it.

I don't think though its entirely fair to start hijacking this thread with another thats been shut by the mods as much as I would love to engage in more active discussion around it.

If it reopens I will be more than happy to discuss it further because you do raise some good points or feel free to u2u me if you want to discuss it further.

thanks.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Dumbass
a reply to: ChaoticOrder


I don't think it has anything to do with conspiracy theorist suddenly like an authority figure being popular amongst them. I think it has to do with the change in demographic of conspiracy theorists when it changed from an obscure niche community into a public "see me question this on social media" community. Which if you ask me is deliberately done to effectively shut up the movement.

I think most is discussed in private groups nowadays.

Not ATS their fault btw.


Yes, lets look at ATS for example: How many actual conspiracies are discussed vs just echoing "news"?

Why come here and read posts that just link to twitter or youtube when I can just go to twitter? Or just browse youtube?


I come here to enlighten myself with the opinions of the few that although might have an opposing view as mine still have valid points in their views which I can use for myself for a better understanding and growth in my world view.

Twitter and YouTube lack discussions. But if you read between the repetative posts and threads there are valuable contributions.

Those I seek, as an old school conspiracy theorist I learned the most from discussing with my personal opposition or by attacking / questioning the ones that agreed with me. Yes I say attacking as they should feel threatened and because of that build solid arguments to disprove my attack.

Mud throwing and simply blaming the other side is not part of that.

But let's stick to the thread topic.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:47 PM
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originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: XCrycek

Do you work for google ? Don’t be naive. It’s free speech that these giant corporations don’t like . Especially a free speech site such as this . The last thing the owners of our planet want is for people to start getting together and talking about how bad we’re getting screwed over by the government, corporations, banks , irs, big pharma , the war machine , big oil , . They want us to fight each other and they done want us talking about how we’re getting screwed over by them . That’ll be tougher for them to continue their objective of complete control . It’s very simple for me to see and without a place like this they’ll have a lot easier time of implementing it


Lol. People getting together? Your post would be correct if you posted it 10 years ago. People don't gather on ATS for those reasons anymore. ATS has been a pro government site ever since 2016. So cut the crap please. This place is overrun with big government shills.
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posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:48 PM
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Owners from ATS and other sites screwed by Google should get a lawyer and do a class action suit against Google.
In Europe, they go after Google and FB, but in the US they're coddled.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: XCrycek

It's a terrible thing when people voicing their opinions are blamed for censorship and not those censoring.


People have been jumping the ship - ATS for 5 years now. You should at least know that "Fluffy Bunny"



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: XCrycek

It's a terrible thing when people voicing their opinions are blamed for censorship and not those censoring.


People have been jumping the ship - ATS for 5 years now. You should at least know that "Fluffy Bunny"


Doesn't change my point.

You and others are blaming people expressing themselves for the demise of ATS.

It's as if you're angry that we don't agree with you and therefor should be silenced.

Your views stink of authoritarian fascism.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Owners from ATS and other sites screwed by Google should get a lawyer and do a class action suit against Google.
In Europe, they go after Google and FB, but in the US they're coddled.


Google is a private company. What would you sue them over? Can i sue ATS for "censoring" some of my posts?



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Another thing is websites like ATS have members sharing information
world wide.TPTB want to control all information so only their version
of the truth is told.I feel the closer we get to this election,the worse
it will get.



posted on Jun, 20 2020 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: XCrycek

It's a terrible thing when people voicing their opinions are blamed for censorship and not those censoring.


People have been jumping the ship - ATS for 5 years now. You should at least know that "Fluffy Bunny"


Doesn't change my point.

You and others are blaming people expressing themselves for the demise of ATS.

It's as if you're angry that we don't agree with you and therefor should be silenced.

Your views stink of authoritarian fascism.


No one is silincing you. People started leaving ATS when it became a Trump worshiping temple.
This site was anti government once, now members worship the POTUS, cheer for police brutality and applaud tax cuts for the rich.
edit on 20-6-2020 by XCrycek because: (no reason given)




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