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originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Edumakated
It isn't the movies
This is the single biggest thing folks need to get through their head in order to understand these incidents.
The naivety is astounding.
Cops are highly trained individuals and are trained specifically in crisis situations and the use of deadly force.
This argument fails on that fact.
Training is not the real world... when the sh*t goes down it is entirely different. Higher adrenaline. Nothing is exactly like the manual.
So training is useless then?
BS. Part of the justification for giving peace officers the right to use lethal force and qualified immunity is that they are highly trained experts. You can't justify poor judgement because these officers were placed in a situation that they exist to control and resolve.
Not it isn't useless but it also doesn't reflect the real world. Officers have to deal with fluid situations that cannot be replicated 100% in a training manual.
While it not entirely related, the scene from Sully explains how the real world is different. THE HUMAN FACTOR.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
With sufficient strength, I'm sure a taser could effect death if shoved into an eye socket.
Taser Lethality 1
Taser Melee Lethality 95
Yeah. I know. The conversation is apparently going to have to center around why it's wrong to kill anyone at any time unless it's necessary to protect life and or property.
100% agree with this statement.
originally posted by: SKEPTEK
Justified shooting.
You'd have to be a complete and total clown to think, shooting a criminal that had resisted arrest, assaulted police, stole a police taser, and shot the taser at the cop, it wasn't justified.
originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
If the cop tased him and he died the argument would be it wasn’t use of lethal force. The moment it was pointed at the officers it was considered lethal. Can have both. The officer had reasonable cause to cuff him while he was sleeping but was lazy. If you here him he said he didn’t want to deal with it so he called another officer. That one could have arrested him while he was seated. He screwed with him and made him do stupid human tricks to get him to provide information against himself. The taser wasn’t lethal for either in that instance. The cop nor the suspect.
Poor training. Poor character. Racists? No. Cops like power. They are the law, or so they always say. They hide behind a veil of invincibility and they become lazy assholes with god complexes. More need to be charged. More need to quit never to return. Many things need to be done to change the culture within law enforcement.
The guy was stupid enough to die. The cop that shot should be charged and the one that was lazy should be fired.