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Christ the Way Part 3: Christ the Eternal Tao

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posted on Jun, 11 2020 @ 10:53 PM
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Plato's Allegory of the Cave
Plato's allegory of the cave goes something like this. There are a group of human beings who from childhood have been chained in place before a wall in a cave with a fire behind them, and light beaming in from the outside. The chains which shackle them keep them from turning to look at the fire. As things go on behind these men and as they age they begin to name the shadows that are cast on the wall before them. Imagine now that one of the men is loosed, and goes onto to approach the light. As he ventures out into the world he is blasted with light for the first time. As his eyes adjust he will come to recognize at first the shadows as those were before this the truth of his reality, after this he will begin to recognize reflections, then his attention may turn to the objects themselves, and after all of this to the sun which illuminates his vision. Plato has us imagine that this man is then returned to the dwelling from which he came. As his eyes adjust to the darkness he cannot see the shadows as well as his brethren who have never seen the light, and thus from this they conclude that the man has lost his eye sight, and so it's better not venture towards the light from which he came, and if any should loose the other they should be put to death.

After expressing this allegory we see Socrates tell Glaucon that he will not misunderstand him if he interprets the prison house as the world of sight, and the journey out into the world as the souls ascent into the intellectual realm. The man slowly adjusting to the light is explained to be our experience of degrees of understanding and gaining better and better understanding of what we are experiencing this to Socrates indicates that the Good is the highest idea within the realm of knowledge as he interprets the degrees of understanding we experience to be adjusting better to the light and thus comprehending your reality to a greater degree. A man may have no knowledge of squares, but another may teach him of points, lines, angles, dimensions, and as he learns these things and how the relate to squares his "eyes" adjust better and better to the understanding of what a square is. Truth is revealed in degrees as one learns of the nature of objects in the world of sight.

Logos/Tao/Way/Word


In the beginning was the Logos/Tao, and the Logos/Tao was with God, and the Logos/Tao was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. - John 1

My teachings are very easy to understand and to practice: yet there is no one in the world who is able either to understand or to practice them. This is because my teachings have an originating principle and arise from an integrated system. This is not understood, so I am unknown. - Lao Tzu

Of the Logos, which is as I describe it, people always prove to be uncomprehending both before and after they have heard of it. For although all things happen according to this Logos, people behave as if they have no experience, even when they experience such words and deeds as I explain, when I distinguish each thing according to it's constitution and declare how it is. The rest of humanity fails to notice what they do after they wake up just as they forget what they do when asleep - Heraclitus


All things have a logos, a way of being. A principle that defines what it is to be both what they are, and which one they are. Philosophers often call what something is forms, universals, substance, nature, or even category, while which one a thing is might be called a particular, instance, individual, or person. There is both a logos for the generality of human nature, and for each individual human. A logos for gold and each individual atom of gold all summed up in the Logos of God.

John begins by calling to mind the notion of the Logos. As we see it is through the ordering principle of God that was with God in the beginning that all things are said to be made. John goes onto tell us that the Logos is the light and life of men. As we think about this from John's perspective we must understand that there is no tension between the noetic world and what we experience with our senses, but rather that they operate in harmony. When he refers to light he is talking about the "light" of our intellect that is there to reveal to us the patterns and archetypes of our experience, the many logoi(plural of logos) centered in the one Logos. As John goes on to explain even though this light shines to the intellect of man, we do not grasp or comprehend the experience. What we need to take note of here is the notion of using light and dark to refer to this noetic "light" that shows to us the things that are hidden that we may begin to navigate our reality. Truth itself is immanent within the world, and it to has a logos. You see truth is a person, and just as any human person must reveal who they are to you through relationship, so to must the truth reveal itself to you relationship. It is because of this relationship that man can begin to know truth at all .

Important distinctions
Nature, Person, Will, Energy/Act. It is imperative when studying Christian theology that one keep in mind the distinctions between these things. Though they are all distinct, they are not necessarily separated from one another. Nature answers the question what is? Person answers which one or who is it? Will refers to it's capacity to act in an environment, and Act or Energy answers what is that they are doing?

John 1 goes on to explain to us that the word becomes flesh. This is taken to mean that the Logos of God who was with God in the beginning, and who was God by nature, took the nature of humanity into his Person. So note, human nature is what God became. Will is proper to nature. Put more simply, what you are determines the types of things you're capable of doing. Since the Divine Person of the Logos took on human nature, the Logos could then act both in his capacity as God and as a human. It's imperative to understand that the there is only one person found in Christ and that is the divine person of the Logos from John 1. Christ has thus affected all of humanity as all humans share in the human nature that was taken into himself, and rose again with him on the third day. Christ and his death is the only basis for the resurrection of the dead as John 5 says "Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out— those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."




posted on Jun, 11 2020 @ 10:53 PM
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Christ the Eternal Tao/Way
So to those who find what I say here know that much of it comes from reading Christ the Eternal Tao. We must begin with the fall of man. When man fell his nature became corrupted and subject to death. Thus Man's problem was sin and death. As we have been discussing there is an originating principle behind all created things, and so it may be said there is a course that all things in our reality follow(except man), and it might be called the Way. One principle noticed by both Lao Tzu and the Christians is that nothing in reality exists for itself, Each thing(save man) fulfills it's purpose. It is not just that one thing lives to serve another, but that that in order for one thing to live another thing must die. We could say what the Way does, is what the Way is. For if all things are made to follow the Way, does not the creator of all things also follow the Way? If each thing is made to serve another, then does the Way not come into the world to serve each thing? If the one thing must die, so that others may live, does not the Way come into the world to die for all things? In fact this is what Christianity teaches. The Way who was like a person without a name or face to the philosophers of the Greeks, and the sages of the Chinese, but they came as precursors to prepare the cultures to know the Way once he entered into time and space to save his beloved creation from corruption.

Let me reiterate man's problem is sin and death, and that which one something is, is not identical to what it is, and what something is determines the types of things it can do. Christ being both God and Man is a unique person. Operating with human energies or actions it is proper for Christ to die, and so on the cross he dies. Death thinking it was allowing a man into itself opened up it's doors, but Christ being also being divine in nature was life itself, and death cannot exist in the presence of life and so it is said that Christ trampled down death by death. Human nature that which Christ had assumed to be able to do these things, is raised upon the third day with him. All men will thus experience resurrection, because all men share in the same human nature that Christ raised. It is because of this that we say Christ is the way. It is he who conquered death, and restored our human nature, and gifted us with the capacity for theosis/deification. It is through him entering into death that man is saved. The experience man has in this resurrected life will be dependent upon their relationship with God. God's presence can be experienced as a life giving light, or a consuming fire. If one denies that he is the Divine Way who died out of love for all things, then it's hard to believe they will properly recognize his presence in the after


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posted on Jun, 11 2020 @ 11:17 PM
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Flagg dad....whilst I read it twice ....like. iteditby]edit on 11-6-2020 by GBP/JPY because: (no reason given)

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posted on Jun, 12 2020 @ 12:41 AM
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Very interesting read.

The term the Way was used fairly frequently in the book of Acts.




[Act 24:14 NASB] [14] "But this I admit to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect I do serve the God of our fathers, believing everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets;



posted on Jun, 12 2020 @ 01:36 AM
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SnF

The light/Tao/Christ was spiritually in the world before physically becoming part of the world. Many from the various cultures were aware of this but did not have a name for the Logos, until the Logos chose a name for itself/himself.

Many Christians ignore the non biblical prophets because they fail to understand the extent of the relationship between the Logos and man before it’s/his/Christ becoming man and sacrificing his one life for the life of all.
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posted on Jun, 12 2020 @ 09:29 AM
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Just fixing some typos and stuff. No content was changed.



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