Get ready for the clash

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Not stirring any pots, just saying it as I see it.

The two are not mutually exclusive. If "just saying it" as you see it has the very real effect of stirring the pot, then it's still part of the problem and NOT part of the solution.

And then begs the question if this is your desire, and therefore your motivation.

Weel, it's not my desire to see trouble between whites and blacks, however... I do see it on the horizon.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
I've already seen vids of people in the USA waving their pro-trump and American flags...

That's nice.

We missed our chance to stand up for something when we were unnecessarily locked down for months and did little to nothing about it.

Some did. Ridiculed on social and main stream media as well as some business.

Fast forward a few weeks where all those same people plus government officials are in the streets.

Amazing

originally posted by: JinMI
Some did. Ridiculed on social and main stream media as well as some business.

Point, and I fully supported them. I attended one here in New Jersey but the majority of the people were way too complacent.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Get ready for the clash
I've already seen vids of people in the USA waving their pro-trump and American flags and here in England there's been counter-protests towards BLM.

Shareef don't like it, but I promise you we are about to rock the Casbah over here in the States. We permitted this little spectacle to go on long enough and the bill will be coming due soon enough.

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: harold223
Putin's plan is going swimmingly...

What plan is that?

It's somewhat articulated below. This extends beyond the 2016 election to US allies, primarily f I v e_e y e s states. Putin is trying to usurp liberal democracy and destroy the NATO order in Europe in order to reinstate Russian power in Eastern Europe. The anti west bloc includes Russia, China North Korea, Iran, Syria among others. China's goal is to get US military out of the indo-pacific region and become the regional hegemon.

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obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
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After this weekends clashes in the UK, it seems I was right.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Certainly were right

Loads of nutters from the left and right extremes getting involved in violence even though many protesters on both sides were doing what they thought was peaceful and a genuine cause.

Media labelling of far right quite interesting.

Had a bloke on the radio saying the far right made of soccer club fighting mobs, who instead of fighting each other held a truce joined forces and when on the attack against BLM and Police after getting totally drunk up. The journalist said once the Police and any BLM had withdrawn and there was nobody around to fight they split into footie club support mode and start attacking each other again

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I don't know if they attacked eachother but there was defo some fighting going on between the two groups. I think this is only round 1 though... more to come.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Oh yeah defo more to come. People were always going to start rioting at some point after being couped up due to Coronas but I never thought it'd be some copper in America going too far that would set all the nutters off

At least the BLM largely backed off from a full confrontation hats off to them for that at least. The footie hooligans tuened on the Police when no BLM could be found then according to the report I heard earlier attacking their own side when there was nobody else to fight

Reminds me of a Kashmiri mate told us about the Pathans and how they love fighting so much when they get nobody to fight against in Pakistan and Afghan like Ruskies, Americans, Brits etc then they just start fighting between themselves, they can't stop fighting