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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

written by 'internatlaionalist liberals' aka people following protocols.




posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: The2Billies

You seem to have ignored the idea of getting rid of unnecessary laws.

Why?


Which laws are unnecessary? Which laws are we getting rid of?


Victimless crimes for starters.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: The2Billies

You seem to have ignored the idea of getting rid of unnecessary laws.

Why?


Which laws are unnecessary? Which laws are we getting rid of?


Victimless crimes for starters.


Please give me some examples of victims crimes.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:11 AM
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If you defund the police, law enforcement will be conducted by the Zetas and S-13 within a year.

The streets of your city will look like Tijuana, Matamoros and Laredo in a year.

But at least there won’t be any more victimless crimes....



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: The2Billies

You seem to have ignored the idea of getting rid of unnecessary laws.

Why?


Which laws are unnecessary? Which laws are we getting rid of?


Victimless crimes for starters.


Please give me some examples of victims crimes.


Do you mean victimless crimes? Sure.

Prostitution
Gambling
Drug use and distribution
Vagrancy

Theres a few to get you started.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MRinder

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: The2Billies

You seem to have ignored the idea of getting rid of unnecessary laws.

Why?


Which laws are unnecessary? Which laws are we getting rid of?


Victimless crimes for starters.


Please give me some examples of victims crimes.


Do you mean victimless crimes? Sure.

Prostitution
Gambling
Drug use and distribution
Vagrancy

Theres a few to get you started.


Lol yes I did mean victimless. Thanks for correcting it.

So don't the left always go on and on about sex trafficking and how it is evil? Wouldn't prostitution fall under sex trafficking?

Gambling is legal where I live... In fact state sponsored best I can tell.

So you are in favor of drug distribution to children and you would consider that victimless?

I will let you have vagrancy because I guess if I was irritated by a vagrant on my property I could just eliminate them myself.
edit on 7-6-2020 by MRinder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: MRinder

I never know for sure what folks mean when they say "the left" so I can't speak to that.

Sex trafficking is slavery. That is a crime against another person.

Prostitution is performing services for another person with agreement by each party.

Did I say I was in favor of drug distribution to children? No? Then, no.

A vagrant on your property is trespassing, which is not a victimless crime.

Killing a vagrant is also not a victimless crime.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:29 AM
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I guess all we can really hope for is if those elitists are ever successful that most or all of them find out they were just being useful idiots and have to go live with the masses. Or knocked off by ambitious subordinates who want to rule. Game of Thrones anyone?



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MRinder

I never know for sure what folks mean when they say "the left" so I can't speak to that.

Sex trafficking is slavery. That is a crime against another person.

Prostitution is performing services for another person with agreement by each party.

Did I say I was in favor of drug distribution to children? No? Then, no.

A vagrant on your property is trespassing, which is not a victimless crime.

Killing a vagrant is also not a victimless crime.


So pimping would still be a crime, right? But what if the woman wanted to be pimped? Then pimping ok?

You didn't at first say you were against distributing drugs to children, so what was I supposed to think since you said drug distribution was victimless



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 11:55 AM
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All of this is just a cover-up for what is really going on. Our debt based fractional reserve monetary is about to collapse through hyperinflation. Leftists are being brainwashed into believing that they're shutting down government, when in reality government can no longer afford to pay its employees or offer socail/welfare programs. Consevatives are being brainwahed into believing that leftists are shutting down government. What monetary system are we going to transfer into?



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

One more thing. Since drug selling and drug use is victimless. Does that mean all drugs, even Heroin? And if Heroin is victimless can we quit using tax payer dollars on Narcan to revive the people who OD?

So is it victimless when the sellers of drugs give free samples to people to get them hooked on addictive substances? Is that just being a good businessperson, or better yet, a bit altruistic?

edit on 7-6-2020 by MRinder because: (no reason given)

edit on 7-6-2020 by MRinder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: Gryphon66

One more thing. Since drug selling and drug use is victimless. Does that mean all drugs, even Heroin? And if Heroin is victimless can we quit using tax payer dollars on Narcan to revive the people who OD?

So is it victimless when the sellers of drugs give free samples to people to get them hooked on addictive substances? Is that just being a good businessperson, or better yet, a bit altruistic?


Oh, I wouldn't worry that much about heroin. You should worry about "prescription" opioids which are ostensibly legal.

You know, the ones that have been given by doctors to their patients for YEARS?

Heroin is like third on the list, and would be hard to find more than likely if the drug war ended.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: Gryphon66

One more thing. Since drug selling and drug use is victimless. Does that mean all drugs, even Heroin? And if Heroin is victimless can we quit using tax payer dollars on Narcan to revive the people who OD?

So is it victimless when the sellers of drugs give free samples to people to get them hooked on addictive substances? Is that just being a good businessperson, or better yet, a bit altruistic?


Oh, I wouldn't worry that much about heroin. You should worry about "prescription" opioids which are ostensibly legal.

You know, the ones that have been given by doctors to their patients for YEARS?

Heroin is like third on the list, and would be hard to find more than likely if the drug war ended.




I am sorry, but maybe I am stupid, because I cannot seem to understand this statement below, so could you please break it down for me?

"Heroin is like third on the list, and would be hard to find more than likely if the drug war ended. "

How would heroin become hard to find if the drug war ended?


Also, you said i should worry about ""prescription" opioids which are ostensibly legal". So what i hear you saying is that legalized drugs like prescription opioids are the bigger worry, but also saying that making more drugs legal would actually be better.

You must be way smarter than me, because you are making my head hurt.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:25 PM
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You're holding up heroin as your worst possible option in the fearmongering you're trying to do by concentrating on overdose deaths.

I just corrected you that in terms of deaths by drug overdose ... heroin is like third on the list.

It's much cheaper to make far more addictive substances. So you've chosen a weak example for your "big bad."



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: MRinder
Please give me some examples of victims crimes.


Punching someone in the dark.



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MRinder

You're holding up heroin as your worst possible option in the fearmongering you're trying to do by concentrating on overdose deaths.

I just corrected you that in terms of deaths by drug overdose ... heroin is like third on the list.

It's much cheaper to make far more addictive substances. So you've chosen a weak example for your "big bad."



Have I really chosen a bad example or is your logic totally flawed?

So according to your own words, drugs that are already legal are already more addictive and kill more people are bad then how is your premise that making more drugs legal would actually make that better?

Do you realize that by legalizing drug dealing and drug use then Big Pharma is going to corner the market on these drugs?



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: MRinder
Please give me some examples of victims crimes.


Punching someone in the dark.


LOL.... damn swipe texting.


Maybe you could use that giant brain of yours and that sixth grade edumacation and help me talk some sense into some of these folks.

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posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: MRinder

Well, making them illegal hasn't helped.

/shrug



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: MRinder
...and help me talk some sense into some of these folks.


Like who?



posted on Jun, 7 2020 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MRinder

Well, making them illegal hasn't helped.

/shrug


It hasn't? So busting drug rings and putting drug makers and drug dealers in jail hasn't at least slowed things down a bit?

You know I really am on your side, kinda. I have always thought the government should put 55 gallon drums of every drug on every street corner, just an unlimited supply. Then all the drug addicts will just OD quicker and then they will procreate less and we will weed out the addiction genes according to Darwin.



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