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Air Force to Test Fighter Drone Against Human Pilot

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posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:14 PM
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Air Force researchers are designing an autonomous aircraft that can take down a manned plane in air-to-air combat, with the goal of pitting the two against each other in July 2021.

Lt. Gen. Jack Shanahan, head of the Pentagon’s Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, said the Air Force Research Laboratory team is pushing the boundaries of what the military can build, compared to the aircraft that already fill the service’s squadrons.
“[Team leader Steve Rogers] is probably going to have a hard time getting to that flight next year … when the machine beats the human,” Shanahan said during a June 4 Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies event. “If he does it, great.”

The AFRL team launched its pursuit of an unmanned, AI-driven fighter jet in 2018, aiming to show promise within 18 months. Inside Defense reported in May 2018 the “big moonshot” would first insert machine-learning technology into a less-advanced plane, like an F-16, before trying it in a newer jet, like an F-35 or F-22.

“Our human pilots, the really good ones, have a couple thousand hours of experience,” Rogers told Inside Defense. “What happens if I can augment their ability with a system that can have literally millions of hours of training time? … How can I make myself a tactical autopilot so in an air-to-air fight, this system could help make decisions on a timeline that humans can’t even begin to think about?”

If the project works, the invention would join the slew of other AI-enabled systems the Air Force wants to add to its inventory. The Skyborg wingman drone concept is perhaps the highest-profile of those programs, though the Air Force is pushing to add AI and machine learning algorithms to everything from maintenance practices to battle planning software.

AFRL’s project echoes the debate revived earlier this year about whether an autonomous fighter could successfully challenge one with a human in the cockpit, sparked by billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk’s comments at an Air Force Association conference in February.

“The [F-35] competitor should be a drone fighter plane that’s remote controlled by a human, but with its maneuvers augmented by autonomy,” Musk tweeted. “The F-35 would have no chance against it.”

But while the Pentagon’s AI work is picking up steam, Shanahan cautioned that not everything happening with the futuristic technology is a success story. The military should adopt the lessons the self-driving car industry has learned, he said—and heed its warnings.

“There is no level four, fully autonomous vehicle out on the roads today,” he said, despite several companies investing billions of dollars in the idea. “On the other hand, that’s a decade worth of experience we should be pulling into the military because they’ve learned so much.”


www.airforcemag.com...




posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:27 PM
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I'm both awed and terrified at the future potential implications of the technology maturing before us, may god have mercy on our fragile organic souls.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: Masisoar

How long before it's tested on street protestors ?



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Masisoar

How long before it's tested on street protestors ?



Oh Gawd already, ugh 😒



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Arnie123

Well the last Starlink launch was completely autonomous. So yes I'm with you on this.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Masisoar

How long before it's tested on street protestors ?



Oh Gawd already, ugh 😒


Legit question. The way things are going over there anyway.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:32 PM
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And then, 10 years later..




posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Masisoar

How long before it's tested on street protestors ?





I was on a DDG that tested it first on Boko Haram off the coast of Africa 😉



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Masisoar

How long before it's tested on street protestors ?



Oh Gawd already, ugh 😒


Legit question. The way things are going over there anyway.

Hi Alldaylong! So you're going to double down? Fine, I'll engage.

No, street protestors are protesting, iaw the law, they will not be harmed as they are utilizing their right to assembly, my city had been an incredible example of this.

Now, agaisnt Rioters and Looters? Sure, depending on the targeting system, platform and of course the era an political party in power.

However, we're entertaining hypotheticals as the proposed technology referenced in your post won't be known till 2021, even then a training simulation as indicated in the OP. While the full results may never be known, the R&D resulting from the data could take years to perfect, far beyond the Trump Presidency.

Now, I see what you're doing, did you think an irrelevant and moot question on untested platforms for future dates in the Weapons forum, really warranted a discussion?

Was it that necessary to waste server space?

How about we stick to the intended discussion as opposed to the technicalities of, "Open forum we can talk about anything and ignore the OP" in the most ridiculous fashion.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:30 PM
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Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Obama already tested the drones by attacking American citizens in the middle east!

Remember? or selective memory?

Back on topic.

Considering this ai is being used and developed in silicon valley, and they keep saying all of their screw ups are because of machine learning, I am thinking our top aces should win.

Otherwise silicone valley and big tech has no reason to blame the machines over their accidental censorship?



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:00 PM
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Weaponized AI should go the way of chemical weapons.
Are people gd retarded?

"I don't like..........um..........YOU!
CLICK...ERASED

I shouldn't have to feel like John Connor



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: PraetorianAZ
Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet.


No, this is how you get Green Lanterns and Parallaxes.

I guess we know what's coming up in July 2020.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: Masisoar

I like this very much, would love to have a front row seat to watch this and the data returned and analyzed. Anyone not for saving pilots has to have a few wires loose IMO.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:53 PM
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The AI will have advantages in that it never gets tired or has a momentary brain fart etc.

Other parts to consider is that the AI can simulate millions of hours of flight in minutes meaning it'll be good in the time it takes to brew a coffee and theres been AI which has learned to fly from knowing nothing and it'll be aiming to meet the parameters set.

The real fun would be when the AI is allowed to modify its vehicle to improve its chances as probably it'll just have a hard tip with some explosives and an engine to get it there and then puncture the enemy and blow up meaning its won.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
Weaponized AI should go the way of chemical weapons.
Are people gd retarded?

"I don't like..........um..........YOU!
CLICK...ERASED


我不喜欢..........单击..........已擦除
Wǒ bù xǐhuān..........Dān jī..........Yǐ cā chú
Words you more likely wouldn't want to hear, John Connor.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:10 PM
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feel like I saw this movie and it didnt go well.

I dont think it will go like folks think YET, but as they gather data and make adjustments maybe after I am retired the AI will be in a place to take over.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I think you are talking about this movie?...

www.imdb.com...

Damn good movie BTW.




posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
feel like I saw this movie and it didnt go well.

I dont think it will go like folks think YET, but as they gather data and make adjustments maybe after I am retired the AI will be in a place to take over.


The way to stop that? is to give the machines a incentive to keep humans alive and protected,and maybe even give them a high of some sort for doing a good job.

Having a AI learn in cockpit with actual pilots might be better than just input data. Ace combat 7 was onto something.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 05:29 PM
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Think about how many could be fielded on a carrier? Air-to-air refueling ops involving drones only? You could have more locally dispersed miniature carriers with UCAVs on board to help with maritime patrols. The possibilities are really endless once the threshold gets crossed. What about a UCAV capable of ASM or Early Warning?



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