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Buffalo Police Knock 75 Year Old Man Down

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posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:34 PM
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What if the guy was just trying to go home and asking to be let through.




posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
What if the guy was just trying to go home and asking to be let through.


Stop it.

You could be talking sense.




posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: harold223
a reply to: DanDanDat

I have been a martial artist for 25 years. A competitor, and a trainer. That guy is severely concussed. The cop that walked up from behind gave a short but quite sharp push with sufficient force to send the man off balance. At 75 years of age it can be a lot easier to lose balance yes, but that fall could have ended in a fatality on pavement. It was nasty. You are trying to project your desired reality into this situation. It's sickening.

EDIT: On closer inspection, it was actually the cop on the mans right that did the push, not the one that walked up. He pushed the man just as he was taking a step backwards. In fact, his push was perfectly timed in the mans step backwards to have caused him to fall like that. On the face of that video that cop could be charged with assault.


Sooo ... you gave your detailed 25 year martial artist, competitor, and trainer, expert opinion on how the officer on the left gave enough of a push to kill the man .... than questioned my "sickening" motivations ... than completely contradicted your original expert opinion to say the office on the right did the pushing?

I have no motivations eather way; just giving my opinion on what I am seeing in this video. You on the other hand are giving conflicting "expert" opinions on what you saw.


My opinion is that the elder man engineered the situation; first by walking up to a moving police line and than by being overly dramatic to the force applied to him and falling on purpose.

I would even go so far as to say the officer on the right recognized the man was being an ass in the moment as he fell based on the way the officer was shaking his head.

Hopefully your expert opinion is also wrong about the man being concussed as he hit the ground. But if he was, he only has himself to blame; he ought to have practiced the fall at home first.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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People ought to take responsibility for their actions. Handle like eggs should be in the cops mind. Thug mentality through and through. If the old man dies that cop should face manslaughter charges. Disgusting.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Here's some more sense, people are telling lies about this trying to cover it up .

Here's sky news doing itbsky


The officer who pushed him with a baton starts to lean over him before he is motioned away by a colleague.


Wrong . The officer who pushed the man then pushes the one policeman who didn't do anything wrong. He runs up from behind and shoves him.

All those protests are now about or should be about the police being generally brutal , not just black lives , but even old people's lives , matter .

The fuzz needs to get a grip they're generally crap


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posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

the sad thing is, is that you are both right.

that is what makes the job of a 'cop' so difficult.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:14 PM
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you missed the part where both the (National Guard?) soldier kneeled to apply aid and another cop as the line kept moving .


a reply to: vonclod



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:15 PM
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You talk as if you were there and really knew what the old guy wanted. Mr 'fighter;

a reply to: Snarl



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

If one can do it right ( on instinct ) why not the other ?
Because the other ones the instinctive fascist about it , but he's the one in charge , obviously.

Why does that same cop who does the damage call for emt , when they can all do first aid ?

Why is it left to the guardsmen in military costume to see to the fallen man , which they do ?

Why not the cops ? It's a matter of human decency being lacking , being trained out of them . It's matter of good conduct to assist the wounded . It's a matter of assholes being in charge , probably corrupt assholes when it comes to crime. The military or obviously see it differently.

And that was something that sky news cutsoff the end of a 39 second video , the military assisting him as a matter of course , and the part where filming is stopped by a female officer . They cut that bit off , 2 seconds worth. It says something this.
It's not that it's a hard job , its a matter conduct , basic decency .


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posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

On the one hand I agree with you obviously it is a matter of human decency but they were marching in line and had to preserve the front line. Thats why even cops behind the barrier line also tended to the man as well.

They had to clear the street so they were moving forward. simple as that.

It was only a difference of a matter of seconds between being pushed and him being tended to.

The fault is obviously not on 'all' the cops like you seem to believe but a matter of tactics.

We weren't there so we can't judge.
And that cop was still in the wrong for pushing him I think.

A simple verbal command would have sufficed or a strong 'escort' off.

So we agree on that.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: chris_stibrany

There's at least a video to witness. Watch it again , it is the military when give the first aid , two of them. The video goes upside down but watch , right at the end .

It's not cops assisting him, it's the military , which takes a natural course of action . They're expected to give medical to enemy they've shot in a war as well.

The cops have no legs to stand on here , bar the one who was doing his job properly , the one who got told NOT to give the old man FIRST aid , and the one who's now getting the blame as well according to sky news.

Apparently the old man is in a serious condition as of right now. This won't go away he has a name and a family , and there's clear footage



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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Finding it OK to knock down a 75 year old should not be possible.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 03:59 PM
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Apparently, the entire emergency response team, 57 officers, has resigned as a show of support for the two officers that were suspended.

Given that, I tend to think there's more to this story than what we're aware of.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: vor78

It's believable they resigned but not for that reason .

The Blaming of the one who did it right , that's more like a why .

That or the national guard told them they were a bunch of C's and they're getting reported , that's the mtit , apparently





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posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Google is your friend.

www.google.com...



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:06 PM
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This is a black mayor too. Are whites going to riot because a black Mayor ordered those cops to knock down the old white guy? I mean that is exactly what took place. That black Democrat Mayor needs to resign just like the white Democrat Mayor resigned when Floyd was murdered. Oh wait! I forgot, only Republicans are held to that standard even when they have nothing to do with black oppression or in this case, white oppression!



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: vor78
Apparently, the entire emergency response team, 57 officers, has resigned as a show of support for the two officers that were suspended.

Given that, I tend to think there's more to this story than what we're aware of.


Yeah, good riddance. The department said no worries, they have enough replacements from the State police to replace these 57 blowhards.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Jaellma

Don't assume they're all bad , it was one cop who did the pushing , he came from behind and quick , shouting , and telling the others what to do.

If someone's blaming TWO cops , that's wrong , it was ONE cop who did the pushing around and that's who should get the blame.

The pics say it is true , it's unclear why they've resigned


Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders,” union president John Evans told NBC affiliate WGRZ.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Jaellma

I'm sure they have the numbers to replace them. Still, I have a hard time accepting that the entire team would try to defend the indefensible here, to the extent that they resign their positions, unless there's something significant that we're not aware of.

Given that, I want to see what comes of this over the next days and weeks before passing judgement.



posted on Jun, 5 2020 @ 04:18 PM
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Actually two of them push him down but the real shove comes from the one behind




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