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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: vonclod
I see a lot of fake outrage.
originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: fozziesnare
All that aside, you can't put your knee into a guys neck for 9 mins like that.
We should do the 9 min knee to the neck challenge here..any takers?
originally posted by: fozziesnare
1st BEFORE he's on the ground, he complained that he can't breathe.
2nd He refused to get into the police car and from how it sounds, made himself "dead weight" and refused to move
3rd Derek Chauvin got on the other side of the car pulled him across the seat. That's how he ended on the ground with the cops on top of him.
4th While he was on the ground for some period, "Lane asked,“should we roll him on his side?” and the defendant said, “No, staying put where we got him.” Officer Lane said, “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever.” The defendant said, “That’s why we have him on his stomach.” None of the three officers moved from their positions."
From the National Institute of Health - "Excited (or agitated) delirium is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting. It is typically associated with the use of drugs that alter dopamine processing, hyperthermia, and, most notably, sometimes with death of the affected person in the custody of law enforcement. Subjects typically die from cardiopulmonary arrest, although the cause is debated."
It is also noted that this condition sometimes exhibits extreme strength.
In conclusion, this shows the cops deduced he was on some drug (toxicology reports say fentanyl was in his system and some meth) and this is why they held him down.
Other reports mention the police called for an ambulance ( code 2 no hurry) while holding him, later upping it to a code3 (hurry)
I do not condone this man's death, but there is a lot more to it than we are seeing in the media and many things appear when you just look.
This is a link to the charges