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So... You are pro-fascism?

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posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:06 AM
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Well on the part of those seeking to segregate themselves from the species based on racial foundations and values.

It's weakness and so shall produce weak fruits that cannot turn into strong vines to harm the ripe fruits...

a reply to: Bluntone22



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:06 AM
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Allowing the ripe fruits to grow.
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

That's pretty much what both sides are doing.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:09 AM
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I guess.
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posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:12 AM
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So, by saying you are against antifa means you are pro-fascism.


That's some gold medal mental gymnastics there.

But the only ones acting like NAZI brownshirts on the streets of 'Murica God rest her soul.

Are Antifascist hacks.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor

Nazis called themselves National Socialists. According to your logic, this means that they are actually socialists. Thank you for clearing that up.

An organization can call itself whatever it wants. That doesn't mean it reflects the reality of the values and principles they represent.
edit on 2-6-2020 by vor78 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor

I just want to make a suggestion to help you out.

If you want to troll people, you need to be more subtle.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: briantaylor

I just want to make a suggestion to help you out.

If you want to troll people, you need to be more subtle.



Yeah like hit them in the head with a brick like Antifa does.
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posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: AgarthaSeed

You just posted something that was literally debunked a few posts up.

Don't let reading comprehension get in the way of pushing a narrative.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor

You sir have your head up somewhere dark . Antifa are the fascists . If you can’t see that then I’ll have to say that you are blind



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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How did twitter determine the Antifa account belonged to a white supremacist group?

Deflection, wishful thinking or fairy dust?

The account has been around for awhile posting Antifa messages right?

When they get busted all of a sudden "it wasn't us it was them!"

I call bs.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: abe froman

Nope. The account had just been created and the only post it had made was the one that got it banned.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: briantaylor
Hey everyone.
There's a pretty simple problem with Cry Baby Conman repeatedly telling the world that the riots are being created by Antifa.

Antifa, by definition, action and history, is a movement against fascism. Against the extreme left, represented by things like Naziism, white supremacism. You know, fascist stuff.

So, by saying you are against antifa means you are pro-fascism.

You're not really pro-fascism are you?

No, I didn't think so.

You just believe the lies of a desperate criminal.

Why are the stupid so loud?
When will America snap out of the delusion that Trump is anything other than self serving?

Whatever you do, let's not fall victim to doublespeak.
I thought you guys here would notice that.
But then again, there's a lot of politicizing on ATS.

..but what if I think you are a fascist?
does that mean anyone not supporting my ideal to set you free from the burden of life is a fascist?

The concept of being against literal fascism is fine
this group isn't about that though..they will label any/everything fascists.

These anarchists have been around for a very long time. They show up at every movement, be it the latest stuff like BLM and such, to older anti-globalization, and whatever other movement they can to simply cause havoc. They are almost always young kids (teens and early 20s) and rarely have anything intellectual to add to the conversation outside of pretending they are fighting the good fight, but ultimately they are just there for the chaos.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Thenail

What's so fascist about antifa?

Can you make clear comparisons to what history has shown how fascism grows. Because so far it looks like the gop is more on track, and not a bunch of idiots hitting people with sticks and breaking stuff.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor

OP there are lots of white supremacists infiltrating message boards to spread their hatred because they know they are losing.

Just a heads up! ✊🏿



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: game over man

OP, also heads up...
There are Anti American communists, anarchists, and easily led sheep, posting disinformation everywhere without verification, in order to spread fear and hatred to supplement thier movement, because they know they are losing.

Just a heads 🦅🇺🇸





posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor

Antifa are as Anti-Fascist as Planned Parenthood is about parenthood.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: briantaylor
I think I understand what you are saying. Problem I see is an always shifting definition right out of 1984... Antifa stands for anti fascism but is as bad or worse than the corporate/government fascists much like our democracies are hardly democratic. Makes it hard for folk to come to consensus as even people on the same ideological page have radically different interpretations. Hard to say one doesn't like fascism without being associated with Antifa, etc. Add some heat and the whole thing blows up.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter which side people are on the government can win if the people are divided. Twisting and convoluting ideologies used as a weapon.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: briantaylor
I think I understand what you are saying. Problem I see is an always shifting definition right out of 1984... Antifa stands for anti fascism but is as bad or worse than the corporate/government fascists much like our democracies are hardly democratic. Makes it hard for folk to come to consensus as even people on the same ideological page have radically different interpretations. Hard to say one doesn't like fascism without being associated with Antifa, etc. Add some heat and the whole thing blows up.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter which side people are on the government can win if the people are divided. Twisting and convoluting ideologies used as a weapon.


Yours is the best response to this thread.
I had many conversations with people online last night who seem to not understand a couple facts:

1. Antifa is a philosophy that fights fascism.
2. Not every black hoodies protester is antifa.

They said things like,
I know what I've seen with my own eyes

Not realising they've just incorrectly put the antifa identity on a mere opportunist.

Here, in the echo chamber, I'm apparently a Nazi for pointing out this wrong thinking.

Here at ATS, we are supposed to be conspiracy minded and deny ignorance. In Trump's doublespeak we have an opportunity to reveal reality.

Don't squander it because it doesn't coincide with the lies you tell yourself. Come to, accept that you have been asleep and become a student of life, learning rather believing.

Or don't. I don't care what you do.

But if we've all agreed about the words we use and their meanings, making an argument based on a deviance from those meanings is fundamentally stupid and dangerous.

It is, in fact, what a fascist would do.

I think most of you suffer from the Dunning Kruger effect.



posted on Jun, 2 2020 @ 01:47 PM
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aNtifa is an ultra fascist movement

The name of their group is meaningless. They use facism as their ONLY tactic



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