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BREAKING: ANTIFA. Will be designated as terrorist group! FINALLY

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posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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Does this mean all the white supremacist terrorists will now be labled as the terrorists they are? Cause appartently, according to the justice department, this would infinge on American's rights to be subject to being monitored the way they do foreign terrorists. While the book is open who antifa even is, everyone knows that white supremacist groups have terrorized Americans for decades. From the OKC bombings to church shootings to modern day lynchings these terorists should(at least) be labled the same as antifa.
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posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

What rights of private industry did he attack again?


and now he's taking a nebulous label that the Right likes to apply to anyone on the Left and making it a terrorist organization.


It isn't nebulous. Terrorism = using fear or actual violence to achieve political goals. Terrorism is a tactic not a state of being

ANTIFA and other far left groups use terrorism to achieve their political goals

It isn't exclusive to the far left, just predominant among its various radical wings supported by many mainstream dems including various sitting members of congress.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
So within the last week Trump has attacked the rights of private industry, made a play for powers designated to the Judicial Branch, threatened to sick the military on US citizens, and now he's taking a nebulous label that the Right likes to apply to anyone on the Left and making it a terrorist organization.

Welcome to the Fascist States of America!


Thanks for letting us know Antifa's official position on this move
We were all worried that we wouldn't ever find out



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
So within the last week Trump has attacked the rights of private industry, made a play for powers designated to the Judicial Branch, threatened to sick the military on US citizens, and now he's taking a nebulous label that the Right likes to apply to anyone on the Left and making it a terrorist organization.

Welcome to the Fascist States of America!


That is the biggest lie I've read all day.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: ras321

Nope, they've been labeled domestic terrorist organizations for years now.


Cannot declare that which has already been declared.
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posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I'm assuming Twitter will now have to ban any pro-ANTIFA tweets.


I wouldn't count on it.


Then won't Twitter become guilty of supporting terrorist propaganda and be officially guilty of committing a felony?



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: game over man

Yeah, back in the day when the KKK was actually riding around on horseback and terrorizing people on a widespread, coordinated basis, it would have made sense.

I didn't know that we designated groups in the present terrorist based on things that were happening almost 60 or more years ago.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I'm assuming Twitter will now have to ban any pro-ANTIFA tweets.


I wouldn't count on it.


Then won't Twitter become guilty of supporting terrorist propaganda and be officially guilty of committing a felony?


It's one legal way to have the FBI sieze their website.




posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: ras321
Does this mean all the white supremacist terrorists will now be labled as the terrorists they are? Cause appartently, according to the justice department, this would infinge on American's rights to be subject to being monitored the way they do foreign terrorists. While the book is open who antifa even is, everyone knows that white supremacist groups have terrorized Americans for decades. From the OKC bombings to church shootings to modern day lynchings these terorists should(at least) be labled the same as antifa.


Another false equivalence.

Ps the book on Antifa was written long ago.

And it's straight out of the communist manifesto.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Or run it for a few months/years to ferret out as many identities as possible


Assuming they aren't already running it

All it takes is a secret warrant, person running the site gets arrested and feds continue on with the hardware/keys to the kingdom



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:16 PM
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No actually they have not.a reply to: JBurns



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: ras321

Far right groups that use terrorism have indeed been labeled as official bonafide terrorist groups.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:18 PM
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ook. So violence and killing people is not terrorism but looting is? a reply to: neo96



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

I believe they just gave themselves the power to search internet history without FISA warrants.

That made the news a few weeks ago.

9to5mac.com...
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posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: ras321

Sorry to quote such a huge post, but its highly relevant



Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action.

On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat. Although efforts have been made by some extremist groups to reduce openly racist rhetoric in order to appeal to a broader segment of the population and to focus increased attention on antigovernment sentiment, racism-based hatred remains an integral component of these groups’ core orientations.

Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups.

The second category of domestic terrorists, left-wing groups, generally profess a revolutionary socialist doctrine and view themselves as protectors of the people against the “dehumanizing effects” of capitalism and imperialism. They aim to bring about change in the United States and believe that this change can be realized through revolution rather than through the established political process. From the 1960s to the 1980s, leftist-oriented extremist groups posed the most serious domestic terrorist threat to the United States. In the 1980s, however, the fortunes of the leftist movement changed dramatically as law enforcement dismantled the infrastructure of many of these groups, and the fall of communism in Eastern Europe deprived the movement of its ideological foundation and patronage.

Terrorist groups seeking to secure full Puerto Rican independence from the United States through violent means represent one of the remaining active vestiges of left-wing terrorism. While these groups believe that bombings alone will not result in change, they view these acts of terrorism as a means by which to draw attention to their desire for independence. During the 1970s and 1980s numerous leftist groups, including extremist Puerto Rican separatist groups such as the armed forces for Puerto Rican National Liberation (FALN—Fuerzas Armadas de Liberacion Nacional Puertorriquena), carried out bombings on the U.S. mainland, primarily in and around New York City. However, just as the leftist threat in general declined dramatically throughout the 1990s, the threat posed by Puerto Rican extremist groups to mainland U.S. communities decreased during the past decade.

Acts of terrorism continue to be perpetrated, however, by violent separatists in Puerto Rico. As noted, three acts of terrorism and one suspected act of terrorism have taken place in various Puerto Rican locales during the past four years. These acts (including the March 31, 1998 bombing of a superaquaduct project in Arecibo, the bombings of bank offices in Rio Piedras and Santa Isabel in June 1998, and the bombing of a highway in Hato Rey in 1999) remain under investigation. The extremist Puerto Rican separatist group, Los Macheteros, is suspected in each of these attacks. The FBI has not recorded any acts of terrorism in Puerto Rico since 1999.

Anarchists and extremist socialist groups—many of which, such as the workers’ world party, reclaim the streets, and carnival against capitalism, have an international presence—at times also represent a potential threat in the United States. For example, anarchists, operating individually and in groups, caused much of the damage during the 1999 WTO ministerial meeting in Seattle.The third category of domestic terrorism, special interest terrorism differs from traditional right-wing and left-wing terrorism in that extremist special interest groups seek to resolve specific issues, rather than effect widespread political change. Special interest extremists continue to conduct acts of politically motivated violence to force segments of society, including the general public, to change attitudes about issues considered important to their causes. These groups occupy the extreme fringes of animal rights, pro-life, environmental, anti-nuclear, and other movements. Some special interest extremists—most notably within the animal rights and environmental movements—have turned increasingly toward vandalism and terrorist activity in attempts to further their causes.

In recent years, the Animal Liberation Front (ALF)—an extremist animal rights movement—has become one of the most active extremist elements in the United States. Despite the destructive aspects of ALF’s operations, its operational philosophy discourages acts that harm “any animal, human and nonhuman.” Animal rights groups in the United States, including ALF, have generally adhered to this mandate. A distinct but related group, the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), claimed responsibility for the arson fires set at a Vail (Colorado) ski resort in October 1998, which caused 12 million dollars in damages. This incident remains under investigation. Seven terrorist incidents occurring in the United States during 2000 have been attributed to either ALF or ELF. Several additional acts committed during 2001 are currently being reviewed for possible designation as terrorist incidents.


archives.fbi.gov...

Just so happens there are far more left wing groups actively engaging in terrorist activities vs. simply ideology (which itself isn't a crime). Law enforcement investigates violations of the law, not plays morality police about people's views.
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posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: ras321
ook. So violence and killing people is not terrorism but looting is? a reply to: neo96



There's not a SINGLE thing they done that hasn't fallen under the definition of domestic terrorism.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Really? It isn't nebulous? In the few minutes since I've made my post I've already been labeled a member of Antifa desire the fact that I've never attended a single protest in my life, went to any kind of far Left meeting, or follow any "Antifa" groups on social media.

So yes, it is a nebulous term that will be used to discredit and send the authorities after anyone on the Left.

But I'm sure you have no issue with that.



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Ouch, not happy to see this....a good reason I highly recommend TOR and other anonymizing platforms

Or if you have a libertarian minded neighbor (cough me) and are trusted not to be looking up goofy stuff you can get Wifi access plus TOR



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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(1)the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A)involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B)appear to be intended—
(i)to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii)to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii)to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C)occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;


They've done ALL of the above


www.allsides.com...



posted on May, 31 2020 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I do have an issue with that.

Did I label you antifa or a terrorist? Absolutely not. Did you read into this post as an attack against you?

If you look at this group's behavior over the past 4 years it is absolute B.S. and totally uncalled for

Don't burn down American cities and engage in a crap load of violence and they won't get called out for terrorizing

I've talked with you a bit in the past Xcalibur254, I have nothing but respect for you.
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