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Estimated 800,000 life years lost due to Governors stay at home (lockdown) orders

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posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:03 PM
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Read about it here: thehill.com... an article by Scott W. Atlas, physician and senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution : John R. Birge professor at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business : Ralph L Keeney professor emeritus in business at Duke University and in engineering at the University of Southern California : Alexander Lipton professor and dean's fellow at the Jerusalem Business School of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem



Using health and labor data as well as various actuarial tables, they projected 65,000 lives lost per month of lockdown in the U.S. – greater than the loss from the virus.

For every 1,000 lives lost to the virus, the corresponding 1,000 lives lost to the lockdown will destroy exponentially more “life years,” because the median age of those who die from the virus is 80, while the median age for deaths caused by the lockdown – those who die due to suicide, substance abuse, despair, and poverty – is much lower.

We have already seen that doctors in Northern California are reporting more than a year’s worth of suicides in just four weeks. Knox County, Tennessee, experienced nine suicides in just one 48-hour period in March. On the other hand, there have only been five COVID-19 deaths in Knox County over nine weeks! One can only imagine the number of suicides that will pile up if these draconian measures are continued indefinitely until there is a vaccine, as so many liberal politicians are advocating.
www.conservativereview.com...


And guess what the anti-liberty Governors don't care, not one whit and neither does the media seem to care as they also ignore it, while both are doing their best to traumatize and terrorize the population.

At the very least. not one anti-liberty Governor has expressed any concern over the non-COVID deaths that can be directly attributed to their stay at home orders, which they steadfastly appear to refuse to ever bring to an end.

The anti-liberty Governors have moved the goal post of restoring liberty to their subjects from "flattening the curve and hospitals not being overwhelmed" to "until their is a cure or vaccine" (which there NEVER may be).

So what do the Governors who are effectively imprisoning their population and killing more people with the house arrest of the population than COVID 19 deaths, really want?

It is obvious, they are relishing the power, the want to destroy the economy, and destroy the nation, that is quite clear. They want to make the people of the US as miserable, suicidal and traumatized as possible so they can blame Trump and win the 2020 elections. At least that is the kindest motivation I can attribute to the anti-liberty Governors.

Another possible motivation of anti-liberty Governors is to purposely decrease the surplus population as much as possible to save the environment. Saving Mother Earth is a very open goal of many of these Governors who are anti-liberty. So by enacting never ending policies that kill as many of their subjects as possible, they may think they are saving the environment.

Another possible motivation of the anti-liberty Governors is to completely destroy the US as a nation, so the USA can be rebuilt into their vision of a socialist utopia. Most of the anti-liberty Governors have openly been attempting to enact and have enacted socialist policies and socialism in their states. Many socialist writers and theorists say that the only way to make the US into a socialist nation is to totally and completely destroy the nation economically, socially and by thoroughly demoralizing the population. Then once destroyed, we are nearly at that point right now, come in and claim they are the ones who can fix it by scrapping the constitution and remaking the country from the ground up. As Obama said, fundamentally changing the nation.

I can think of no other reasons that anti-liberty Governors are knowingly destroying so many lives and even the lives of children. They don't seem to really care about their voters lives at all when it comes to the genocidal human toll lockdowns have created. They don't even seem to care at all about the children locked in with abusers and no one to notice.

The anti-liberty Governors appear to not want to reopen schools and seem to want to allow the children, the future of the nation, to lose years of schooling and so remain ignorant, until there is a "cure or vaccine". The online schooling will create and has already begun to create a 2 tier education. Tier #1, children who stay home alone while parents work. The Governors have shut down and made all day care, or out of school care options illegal. So these children, many who can not or can barely read, are left to educate themselves at home, online and become the dumb masses the anti-liberty Governors are hoping will become "their" voting block of those who need free government handouts to even eat or survive. Tier #2, children whose can afford a stay at home parent who will over-educate the children to become the elite ruling class. Creating a huge economic and intellectual divide, the opposite of socialist goals, but the exact way all socialist/communist countries operate in real life.

This is not the first group of scientists or doctors or even studies
that are showing the stay at home orders that have no end in sight,
and which can remain forever if the Governors so choose,
are actually taking more lives than COVID 19.

Worst of all the anti-liberty Governors have to know about these issues
and by ignoring them are saying,
this genocide is useful to them,
useful enough to continue indefinitely.


All I can conclude, with mounting evidence clearly in, the anti-liberty Governors must have reasons other than "saving lives" to continue down this anti-humanitarian and genocidal path of purposeful national destruction.


edit on 5/26/20 by The2Billies because: grammar format




posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:22 PM
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objective facts don't matter. They have a narrative they want to run for a multitude of reasons.



It's ironic how 100,000 is actually a very calculable number. Their hyperbole shows they are out of touch with reality and are simply appealing to emotion at this point.
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posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

Lockdowns for people who are healthy are ridiculous, lockdowns for a disease where the primary age of death is 70+ is ridiculous, half-assed social distancing measures are pointless, being herded into lines in enclosed spaces with people because 'safety' is counter productive and idiotic, wearing masks does not protect you from disease, doctors and nurses wear masks to protect patients from themselves, those nitrile gloves cashiers and everyone's using, are good for 4 minutes and need to be changed between each person, if you're not doing this, it's pointless, medical offices, hospitals etc. Do not disinfect with isopropynol, they use a chemical called cavicide, this #'s so corrosive it'll burn holes through your skin, anything less than what hospitals do between patients is pointless.

None of these globally enacted measures are actually effective at stopping the spread of disease. Just look at the way hospitals operate and disease transmission is still rampant and not a single business or individual has even come close to the level of sterilization used by hospitals. The whole thing is a pointless #ing sham that's only been allowed to happen because the level of basic biology education and disease transmission among the general population is around the 'generally retarded' level. Not to mention most people's grasp of basic statistics and numbers over 1000 is questionable at best.

Put these things together and you get a nice population of dumbass sheep willing to give up their freedom and livelihoods in the name of 'safety' and happily ring their #ing quarantine sheep bells at 7pm every night.

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posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:38 PM
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I can play this game too!

Ummm, lets see, Oh yeah!

The sky is falling
Oh yeah, we're all going to an imaginary place called hell
The land is going to flood again, or was it fire, oh hell, why not both
Then we have cake an pie?

Was 800k life years, a shot at light years or lives lost?

Anyhow, hurricane, volcano, tornado, flood, earthquakes, I cover it all? Oh yeah Plagues manmade an natural.
Not you can continue living



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
I can play this game too!

Ummm, lets see, Oh yeah!

The sky is falling
Oh yeah, we're all going to an imaginary place called hell
The land is going to flood again, or was it fire, oh hell, why not both
Then we have cake an pie?

Was 800k life years, a shot at light years or lives lost?

Anyhow, hurricane, volcano, tornado, flood, earthquakes, I cover it all? Oh yeah Plagues manmade an natural.
Not you can continue living


Come again pardner?



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
I can play this game too!

Was 800k life years, a shot at light years or lives lost?


That's ok, you can sit in your hovel for the next 2-5 years. That is how long the WHO organization says it will take to get COVID 19 under control. No one is stopping you from hiding in your basement for the all clear.

The rest of us want to live, not exist under a never ending iron fist, keeping us locked in as prisoners in our homes. Not the life for me, but if that is what you want - go for it. Just don't think it isn't happening to others who don't like it and prefer freedom and liberty to a life of being forced out of doing anything that gives meaning or purpose to life outside the 4 walls of ones hovel.

Did you even bother to read the article, I highly doubt it, at least your comment seems to suggest you didn't bother to read it or the actual OP. But that's ok, if the article is too difficult for you to comprehend so you rely on the title of the OP, I understand. I guess the OP was too difficult for you to read also, that's ok.


edit on 5/26/20 by The2Billies because: format



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

So what do the Governors who are effectively ...... killing more people with the house arrest of the population than COVID 19 deaths, really want?


Votes ....

Dead people more likely to vote democrat



•In May 2016, CBS2 Los Angeles identified 265 dead voters in southern California. Many cast ballots “year after year.”



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posted on May, 26 2020 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined


Was 800k life years, a shot at light years or lives lost?


It's years of life lost.

Say they assume the average age of the population is 80.

If a 79 year old dies due to COVID-19; that is 1 year of life lost.

If a 40 year old dies because the loss of his livelihood drives him to depression and suicide; than that is 40 years of life lost.



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 11:12 PM
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Sure, but on the other hand, traffic fatalities a year ago were about 39,000 and are now about 50% of what they were then. The average age of traffic fatalities seems to be about 40 years. That's about 776,000 additional life-years saved by the stay at home orders.

If you really want to figure out the cost in life-years, you have to consider all the positives and negatives.

a reply to: The2Billies


edit on 26-5-2020 by 1947boomer because: Arithmetic error



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined

Was 800k life years, a shot at light years or lives lost?


Actually it is a very good calculation, and a lot more accurate than death count over all. It is based on the years lost due to the repercussions of the shut down. As example one child dies due to starvation that could be 50+ years lost compared to an 80 year that old person that dies to the virus from complications they already have. All lives are precious but this is calculating the years lost based on the actions of the shutdown and is also very worrisome.



posted on May, 26 2020 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer
Sure, but on the other hand, traffic fatalities a year ago were about 39,000 and are now about 50% of what they were then. The average age of traffic fatalities seems to be about 40 years. That's about 1.5 million additional life-years saved by the stay at home orders.

If you really want to figure out the cost in life-years, you have to consider all the positives and negatives.



Could be and I posted a post about how many lives might be saved by the shutdown, but in the end we will know more with true final count. If 700 million more people in the world will start to starve due to the shutdown how does that compare to the virus or traffic fatalities which in the big picture are both very small to begin with.

If 200,000 very healthy people die due to direct results of the shutdown in the US how does that compare? I really do not know the answer but there are repercussions to the shut down that could dwarf the actual virus.



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