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Many new cases share a surprising common risk factor - A previous positive test for COVID-19

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posted on May, 27 2020 @ 02:25 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622



See, if you count the same people multiple times then your Case Fatality Rate is greatly decreased.
a reply to: infolurker
Absolutely correct . Lets say half the confirmed cases were retests the US mortality rate jumps to 11.76 percent . But its just the flu right .


That's misleading because there's no such thing as the 'U.S. mortality rate' in the general way you're using that label.

There's a 'U.S. case mortality rate' and a 'U.S. infection mortality rate'. They are not the same thing.

The 'case mortality rate' is based on confirmed deaths in confirmed/symptomatic cases. In countries where testing has been more widespread and randomized, like Iceland, the case mortality rates are much lower than ours.

In the U.S., testing has been inaccessible, slow to roll out, and people with symptoms have been prioritized, despite the shortage of testing.

By that, I mean, having symptoms is already sufficient to take appropriate measures regarding isolation/quarantine, it's the asymptomatic spreaders that should have been the focus. But, that would have required randomized testing...something you'd think the CDC would find valuable in crafting an effective strategy.

Testing primarily in people with symptoms, the elderly, and other people at a greater risk of dying is going to yield a higher mortality rate than randomly testing people with no symptoms.

The 'infection mortality rate' includes both the symptomatic and the asymptomatic and it is/will be much lower than the case mortality rate...if the U.S. ever gets around to widespread randomized testing.

Until then...it's just a guess. The U.S. response has not provided for quality data reporting. Yes, the blame can be shifted, in part, on to states having varying methods of reporting data. But the bottom line: The CDC failed to coordinate with the states in preparation for a nationwide outbreak...at least for this virus. They actually have quality data on other major threats to public health.




edit on 5/27/2020 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)




posted on May, 27 2020 @ 04:25 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye
I get what your saying but you might need to read what i was responding to .
round figures ok .If there were 2,000,000 cases and 100,000 deaths its a 5% mortality rate . But . If the 2 million cases were 1 million testing positive twice the mortality rate jumps to 10% . Thats what i was trying to say . We can only go on official figures not speculation . The numbers vary greatly . US is around 5.8% . UK damn near 20% from memory but here in AUS its 1.3% . Why the variation i am not sure .



posted on May, 27 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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The US is higher than it actually is because all deaths of any reason are counted as a Covid death if the person had Covid. So someone who is asymptomatic and killed in a hit and run accident is counted as a Covid death in the US. A review of deaths found 25% of Covid-19 deaths were not linked to Covid-19.



posted on May, 27 2020 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Do you have links for your claims .



posted on May, 27 2020 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
Do you have links for your claims .


Here is an example where a death ruled as acute alcohol poisoning with a secondary cause of cirrhosis was categorized as a COVID-19 death by the State of Colorado:

New COVID-19 Death Dispute: Colorado Coroner Says State Mischaracterized Death

OccamsRazor may have just used 'hit and run' to illustrate the general issue of wrongly categorized deaths.



posted on May, 27 2020 @ 05:56 PM
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Here is an example where a death ruled as acute alcohol poisoning with a secondary cause of cirrhosis was categorized as a COVID-19 death by the State of Colorado:

And the change is being challenged .From the same link below .



However some statisticians, epidemiologists and medical experts, like Dr. Anthony Fauci, have suggested that COVID-19 deaths are likely being undercounted, not over counted. Fauci testified this week before the Senate and was asked if 80,000 deaths from COVID was accurate.

“Most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than that number,” said Fauci. He told the Senate, “I don’t know exactly what percent higher, but almost certainly it’s higher.”



posted on May, 27 2020 @ 05:57 PM
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Gotta sell the lie.
After all, lots of people are trying to avoid prison or worse.
This is why they're going for broke with this plandemic.
Rockefeller foundation documents from 2010 have been followed to a letter.
Response and play out have been very close to what the Gates Foundation Event 201 from last September came up with. Good old Bill has his little mitts in everything here; vaccine development, NGO's pushing those vaccines, funding the WHO and developing the ID2020 tracking chips. I dont care how much money you have, nobody has the right to push their own personal agenda on the entire world like Gates is doing right now.

Everyone needs to watch this 4 part series put together by James Corbett of the Corbett Report on Gates.



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